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[Psycho]

Yes, but only having to play SP, is a diss-avantage because, If you would complete the game you would be bored with it, and stop pleaying it.

[~SaSQuAtCH~]

Without playing DXSP1 most of the newbs (about 95%) will certainly leave DXMP after some days cos the game itself is old and they have better games to play. I believe that 95% of the DXMP community played DXSP before playing DXMP that's why we still love it and care about it.

And go back on topic.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

I played half-life and am a great fan, I never got around to SDK or playing it online though, I played Condition Zero instead and voted Prodigy and Nuke maps always... was as good as being in half-life...

There are still people today, playing half-life for the first time and how old is that game. But how many of them make it as far as MP. As long as DX is loved, I see no reason why it will disappear.

DX3 with no MP is good news for DX1. However I feel the vast majority will only play the single player game.

1. Most ppl will be on Xbox or 360 culture, won't be great computer guys and wont be tempted to SDK or get too involved with a PC game.

2. Most ppl simply will just play the single player of DX1.

GODZ posted some statistics which are quite depressing. Of 10,000 CD's given away free, only 2500 will make it home. Of that 2500, only about 500 will play the SP to the end. Of that 500, only about 100 will try MP. Of that 100, less than 20 will play it more than 3 times... or something like that...

But still, DX3 can't be bad for DX1. Perhaps a forums relating to single player and a forums which make it really easy for Xbox and 360 fans to get to grips with the basics of PC gaming, DXMP and using SDK's etc...

My first job will be converting all the DX3 maps to DX1...

[Kaiden]

GODZ posted some statistics which are quite depressing. Of 10,000 CD's given away free, only 2500 will make it home. Of that 2500, only about 500 will play the SP to the end. Of that 500, only about 100 will try MP. Of that 100, less than 20 will play it more than 3 times... or something like that...

Lol GODZ can post pigs fly if they like.. Let's see them actual proof..

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

this was genuine research undertaken by professionals...

and before u slate GODZ too much, don't forget Xikron was a GODZ member and is a professional games designer, worked on Spiderman etc...

[Kaiden]

I wasn't "slating GODZ", just saying anyone can post something, wondering if there was a link to these stats or something.

[Spiderbot01]

this was genuine research undertaken by professionals...

and before u slate GODZ too much, don't forget Xikron was a GODZ member and is a professional games designer, worked on Spiderman etc...

THAT WAS SUCH AN AWFUL GAME LOL.

[~Si[ß]eria~]

this was genuine research undertaken by professionals...

and before u slate GODZ too much, don't forget Xikron was a GODZ member and is a professional games designer, worked on Spiderman etc...

THAT WAS SUCH AN AWFUL GAME LOL.

lol have to agree with you there. Spiderman games sucked.

[Mr. Tastix]

Eh. I'll be buying the DX3 game for the SP version, thanks. I've played DXSP over 10 times and can do it with any other game lol. Hell I play LOADS of games without MP. GTA2 is one of 'em (AND THAT'S FUCKEN OLD MAN!) and Half-Life 1 is another (I don't play it's MP lol).

Difference with me is if I buy a sequel, I'll usually buy the previous games to find out the storyline. If I've already player the "previous" games (in this case, DX1 and DXIW) then I'll buy the sequel regardless of reviews (if I like the original games) to see what it's like IMO.

[synthetic]

I believe that 95% of the DXMP community played DXSP before playing DXMP that's why we still love it and care about it.

Oh I strongly object that estimation youve made. It may be perhaps 40-60% but definitely not more. Ive encountered so many people who havent played dxsp, and who dont give a flying fuck either. Certainly as the game has aged the number of people in dxmp who have started dxmp without playing dxsp has increased.

[~SaSQuAtCH~]

I was talking about the community not about those who once or twice tried out the game then left for runescape or CS.
(community imo: those who play DXMP recently)

[Kaiden]

I think someone did a vote...uh..

http://www.dxalpha.com/forum/viewtopic. ... layed+dxsp

There, 9 say they played DXMP first, 36 say they played DXSP first .

[rob]

i think dx2 didnt sell as well because there was no mp. so maybe they will see this and put mp on dx3 for it to sell better.

i baught dx for the sp, it didnt have mp when it first came out. but back then i hadnt really played any mp games.
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Herbal vaporizers

[~SaSQuAtCH~]

I think someone did a vote...uh..

http://www.dxalpha.com/forum/viewtopic. ... layed+dxsp

There, 9 say they played DXMP first, 36 say they played DXSP first .

thats 20% if i'm rite?

[Mr. Tastix]

Personally, I think that any people won't bother to play DXSP now, it's too old. And, there is one big reason why loads of people (I've told Deus Ex about) haven't played it.

They don't understand it. Ion Storm's writers did a fantastic job but not everybody understands the full concept of the game and it confuses them. Several people I know had to play the game several times before realizing just wtf was going on.

And, Deus Ex: Invisible War didn't sell, because it sucks in comparison to that of DX1. It "sold" because many DX1'ers wanted to try it and most who bought it didn't like it. Many people who had never tried DX1 however, would've thought it not so bad. It wasn't without it's flaws but I liked it.

My main problem with DXIW is that it's storyline is totally FUCKED. IT TRYS TO UTILIZE ALL THREE FUCKEN ENDINGS. SERIOUSLY, WTF (read the notes in loading screens). That and people like Chad Dumier and Nicolette Du'Clare now hate JC and Paul which is so contradictive.

[~SaSQuAtCH~]

Haven't played DXIW yet but downloaded it already. I gotta try it out now.

[Krank]

I dont like DX:IW doesnt continue with the concept of the original game. (I have Deus Ex on PS2)

[~SaSQuAtCH~]

Ps2 version of DX1 looks shit for me, better effects tho but those characters are just ridiculus

[Mr. Tastix]

Haven't played DXIW yet but downloaded it already. I gotta try it out now.

Most people don't like it. I don't mind it but it has way too many flaws. Shared ammunition being one of those flaws. My main concern with it is it's storyline. I hate it as it's screwed up in many places.

[synthetic]

Shared ammunition is not a flaw, but a feature.

[Spiderbot01]

i think dx2 didnt sell as well because there was no mp. so maybe they will see this and put mp on dx3 for it to sell better.

i baught dx for the sp, it didnt have mp when it first came out. but back then i hadnt really played any mp games.

People didn't play DX:IW because it was shit.

Not because it didn't have MP.

[synthetic]

i think dx2 didnt sell as well because there was no mp. so maybe they will see this and put mp on dx3 for it to sell better.

People didn't play DX:IW because it was shit.

Not because it didn't have MP.

And you know as a fact that the shit game would have not sold better with the mp.

[Spiderbot01]

i think dx2 didnt sell as well because there was no mp. so maybe they will see this and put mp on dx3 for it to sell better.

People didn't play DX:IW because it was shit.

Not because it didn't have MP.

And you know as a fact that the shit game would have not sold better with the mp.

I'm glad you understand my viewpoint.

[synthetic]

I'm glad you understand my viewpoint.

I understand that you hurried to prove rob wrong without considering that he may be partially right.
Of course DXIW was shit. And of course there are players who dont give a fuck about the SP.

[Spiderbot01]

I'm glad you understand my viewpoint.

I understand that you hurried to prove rob wrong without considering that he may be partially right.
Of course DXIW was shit. And of course there are players who dont give a fuck about the SP.

SARCASM OVER THE INTERNET IS LIKE TRYING TO BURN FIRE.

[Alex]

I'm glad you understand my viewpoint.

I understand that you hurried to prove rob wrong without considering that he may be partially right.
Of course DXIW was shit. And of course there are players who dont give a fuck about the SP.

SARCASM OVER THE INTERNET IS LIKE TRYING TO BURN FIRE.

I once burned fire.
And it said.
Fuck off.

[synthetic]

I'm glad you understand my viewpoint.

I understand that you hurried to prove rob wrong without considering that he may be partially right.
Of course DXIW was shit. And of course there are players who dont give a fuck about the SP.

SARCASM OVER THE INTERNET IS LIKE TRYING TO BURN FIRE.

Dont worry, your "sarcasm" did not escape me. It did however ask for more detailed post.