Deus Ex Alpha

nofuckingclue wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:I'll explain in "ENGLISH" I DO SPEAK IT

You were like "I am more skilled than you at Deus Ex!!!!1" And in my opinion, Its not always about IN-GAME, Its about doing something else too, like Mapping/Modding.


Thats what.

It's always about the in-game skill. Those who suck at DX are always trying to make up for it by making some shitty maps/mods and then praising all over how much they are "contributing to the community" or "keeping the game alive". /flame

In short...

Fuck you.

You're a fucking idiot, you realise that many of the maps and mods made for Deus Ex and other games have kept the games alive?

I'm pretty sure people would've gotten bored of playing Smuggler for the millionth time if it wasn't for mappers and modders to enrich the game some.

So fuck you.

What map and/or mods have kept the game alive? Other than 0 aug gametype, which is more of a mutator.

And by alive I mean your definition of alive. Because Half Life is more active than DXMP is. So it's dead.

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:What map and/or mods have kept the game alive? Other than 0 aug gametype, which is more of a mutator.

And by alive I mean your definition of alive. Because Half Life is more active than DXMP is. So it's dead.

Half-Life has been modded and mapped. Mods and maps to some people, including me, keep the game alive (as in the community, not necessarily MP) and keep people interested rather than playing the vanilla game all the time.

Half-Life and Sven Co-op is fucking pwnage.

That's right, the community alive. It keeps fools on their forums and message boards talking about their mods and what not.

Any trout sniff in any old game could do that. It deserves no appraisal.

Thanks for keeping DXMP alive Reclaimer!

Funny thing is, "DX is dead" and nevertheless, everyone is still here.
Perhaps the forum title should be changed to "DeusEx - The interactive (a)social network experience"

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:That's right, the community alive. It keeps fools on their forums and message boards talking about their mods and what not.

Welcome to the Forum of Fools then.

Enjoy you stay, we hope you enjoy being a Fool alongside us!

And if, on your travels, you find being a Fool is not your thing then you can FUCK THE HELL OFF.

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~ô¿ô~Nobody~ wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:

[FGS]DeathMaster wrote:If SDK remains unreleased, people never start mapping thus this game would be dead by now. About 80% of maps that are being played every day are not default DXMP maps.
Same goes for modding as default DXMP is full of bugs.
In this case the "elites" did nothing for the community and the game itself but playing and getting good skills.

Actually, Thats what my point is.

Some people simply don't want to get it.
Both fucking things are true.
Without modding, DX would be dead already.
Without gamers, DX wouldn't need any modding and would be dead already.


At the end there's just one problem..
THOSE people, who won't stop bitching because they are too stubborn to accept that both sides fulfill their essential part to keep the game alive.

BEFORE some of those people post an unqualified reply, simply don't post.

Okaay, That makes sense, without gamers, there won't be anyone playing, and without modders, gamers won't be playing.


So yeah, if there were no players back then, why would I have modded etc?


MAKES SENSE.

BOTH HAS RIGHTS.

Haven't we had a topic with pretty much the same essence... like 2 years ago?

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:That's right, the community alive. It keeps fools on their forums and message boards talking about their mods and what not.

Any trout sniff in any old game could do that. It deserves no appraisal.

What about DXMTL?

With the exception of patches of course. But mods like RPG, and Bowen, and FUNLINEGODZ4.0 and NoChanc_Funbox_II does nothing but bring garbage to the game.

DXAG is the only decent mod released for DXMP imo. Palmtree would have been cool too if it wasn't half assed.

DXMTL and patches of the likes are usually decent (unless they're user made like the last few, then they're merely excessive and usually shitty).

Oh and FGS before you start; Altfire has nothing on DXAG and also just because you can streak off of newbies in a server with crapped gravity and crapped maps does not make you God's gift to Ireland.

mmusercontrol was the best thing that ever happened to this community

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:garbage to the game.

Garbage that outbids standard gametypes by popularity

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:Oh and FGS before you start; Altfire has nothing on DXAG and also just because you can streak off of newbies in a server with crapped gravity and crapped maps does not make you God's gift to Ireland.

I've never considered myself God's gift to Ireland but thanks for the idea.

The average number of players a day on our Altfire server is higher than the number of players on any ATDM server a week. Same applies for DXSG and DXAG when they're up and not using an old version of the mod thus making the game to be full of bugs and unplayable. This seems to be the pure proof of modded DX games being much more popular than any original gametypes. I'm sure that DXMP would be dead if these didn't exist. Your hatred on modded gametypes is ridiculus. They are the reason you can still get some streaks on noobs on ATDM servers when they randomly enter a server because they don't know what they're going to find there.

The only servers with a similar popularity to [FGS] servers are RTKM and EDH/DIOS. Non of them are ATDM. No wonder even noobs hate that.

I'm getting tired of this whole ATDM pro/veteran/BeenAroundLongerThanU/almighty/hardcore stuff. Just shut it if you have nothing good to say or at least some facts to back up your ridiculus opinion.

No.

What do I type first?

That's right, the community alive. It keeps fools on their forums and message boards talking about their mods and what not.

Any trout sniff in any old game could do that. It deserves no appraisal.

It's always about the in-game skill. Those who suck at DX are always trying to make up for it by making some shitty maps/mods and then praising all over how much they are "contributing to the community" or "keeping the game alive". /flame

In short...

Fuck you.

Because HL1's Goldsrc engine is so easily accessible to run and create it has been blooming with life since its conception. You'd find that mods are only blooming with the base games (HL1 has a lot of modifications) to enhance your playthrough or show you a new experience. Without GoldSrc being accessible and allowing creativity with it's SDK there would be no players playing the vanilla base games.

Oh, and for the record, HL1 death match server list, I tried to include all of the pure servers:
http://www.imagocentre.com/images/37/ow ... eo_124.jpg

Don't get it?, play Counter Strike (irony, it's a mod of Half Life), a game which is forced by rabid fanboys to be so pure that everything except Warcraft, surf and Hide'n'seek servers it is constantly the exact same shit. Every fucking time. If you have a problem with modding or new content then fuck off to Counter Strike which is practically abandoned by Valve and won't ever improve. I'll be enjoying my new content:
http://www.teamfortress.com/
http://www.l4d.com/blog/

It may be official add-ons but they're actually adding to the game, TF2 and L4D are constantly updated and CS isn't for a reason. By adding new content the game has proven to drastically change and bring fresh official gameplay. This is pretty much what MTL gave you now you're insulting them?, shame on you. You need be happy for and to respect DXAG and Bowen (I'm not too keen on the playability of DXSG and the simple conversion TNAG-AltFire) because they've added a new way to play Deus Ex that lured players (Chococat) that haven't even played the original single player campaign of Deus Ex.

Oh yes. Deal with it. I should be admin of these forums.

Oh wait.

Garbage that outbids standard gametypes by popularity

Popularity doesn't mean it's good!

Can't be shit either, otherwise people wouldn't play it right?
RPG games in Deus Ex have their magic aswell, it's just that some people like it some don't. Same goes for any other modded gametype.

Can't be shit either, otherwise people wouldn't play it right?

Flash games.

The only time I personally play Flash games is in college when I've got some free time and there's no proper game installed on the PC. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't choose DX over it if I could. I think most people play Flash games in workplaces and schools when they have a couple free minutes.

James wrote:Popularity doesn't mean it's good!

I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's definitely not a garbage because that many people can't be wrong. ATDM fanboys could take some advantage from that, improve their beloved gametype to draw attention of the masses... but, oh wait! they can't modify it, because they hate modding!

Dae wrote:

James wrote:I'm saying it's definitely not a garbage because that many people can't be wrong.

I have two words: George Bush

You tried out the new Survival mode in L4D?

-TheSpecialist- wrote:You tried out the new Survival mode in L4D?

Of course, although I was a bit let down by everyone abusing it to get 30 minute times by camping. I still prefer VS very much but Death Toll is far too long. Took us like 2 hours to complete it, I'm not even joking.

James wrote:

-TheSpecialist- wrote:You tried out the new Survival mode in L4D?

Of course, although I was a bit let down by everyone abusing it to get 30 minute times by camping. I still prefer VS very much but Death Toll is far too long. Took us like 2 hours to complete it, I'm not even joking.

In a month I will buy that game and I will play it. I will rejoice at the fact that I can even play it.

[T]RECLAIMER wrote:No.

At least you realized that you're talking garbage now, thanks.

Dae wrote: ATDM fanboys could take some advantage from that, improve their beloved gametype to draw attention of the masses... but, oh wait! they can't modify it, because they hate modding!

LOL, actually that would worth a quote, if I had a free slot.

So.. Who won?

Modders

or

Gamers!!


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None of them can really win but Gamers, at least to me, have more a leeway to win.

You don't need mappers or modders for people to play something. But mappers and modders can bring new life into a game that's been played out far too many times already (like Half-Life, IMO). Mappers and modders however, need gamers because without them then they'd be the only ones playing their creations.

Didn't DXMP start out as a fan project? Therefore, if there were gamers only there would have never been DXMP. In fact, if we look at the whole video gaming thing - if there were only gamers then there wouldn't be any games at all.

If everyone only drove cars and no one made them = what is there to drive?

But, if everyone was a modder and no one was a gamer - there would be games but no one would play them. There would be cars, but who would drive them?

Neither can live without the other.