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Tantalus wrote:Don't poo-poo IPS monitors, they've got picture reproduction WAAAAAAY ahead of TN, they last longer and they have the correct response time and contrast ratio shown.
clyzm wrote:That being said, I really like AOC's monitors. Made in China, yeah, so sometimes they don't come with DVI cables (only VGA), but they do have DVI ports. They're backlit, the contrast ratio is something like 5,000,000:1 and they look really nice. Also, this:
Tantalus wrote:Don't poo-poo IPS monitors, they've got picture reproduction WAAAAAAY ahead of TN, they last longer and they have the correct response time and contrast ratio shown.
~þsÿçhø~ wrote:My laptops screen is broke, how can i fix it?
James wrote:THROW DARK SOULS AT IT
ynnaD wrote:
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Aidan wrote:-and Jake, IPS IS NOT PRIMARILY FOR GAMING. The color is nice, but that's it. I would only consider buying one, once the price goes down, and the response time is better (also possibly 120hz rf rate). I've borrowed my father's IPS for quite a while, and I'd honestly sacrifice the color for better functionality. However, my dad does not play PC games, so he doesn't care entirely about gaming functionality.
Tantalus wrote:Aidan wrote:-and Jake, IPS IS NOT PRIMARILY FOR GAMING. The color is nice, but that's it. I would only consider buying one, once the price goes down, and the response time is better (also possibly 120hz rf rate). I've borrowed my father's IPS for quite a while, and I'd honestly sacrifice the color for better functionality. However, my dad does not play PC games, so he doesn't care entirely about gaming functionality.
Okay, I was not responding out of risk of derailing the thread, but I am going to nip this in the bud right now.
Unless you're in the MLG or a 'pro-gamer', you will never notice/need a few extra milliseconds of input lag and response time.
They tout these monitor as 'ultimate gaming hardware', but the majority of it is marketing hype and distortion of figures; the same sort of tactics used by Alienware.
For example, my NEC IPS monitor has 8ms response time (the same as an LCD TV from a few years ago), except that's recorded black-to-white; for some reason manufacturers use black-to-white for IPS and grey-to-grey for TN monitors. Now, I don't know if this is me but an IPS just makes everything A LOT easier on the eyes, colours pop out more and words are much easier to read and games look A LOT better and are more enjoyable as a result (call me vain, but what is expensive GPU for exactly?)! To me, that's worth the trade-off of a few extra milliseconds; why not just wait for OLED and have 0.0000001ms black-to-white response time...or get an ol' CRT?
Ultimately, you're buying into an inferior product because you think you need it for gaming. At the level you play at, an IPS monitor does the exact same job, and actually makes the game a lot fucking better.
ANYWAYS, I've heard great things about Benq and Viewsonic, check them out.
I can also attest to TFTCentral as Aidan has linked, tests a lot of parameters and gives you calibration patches for the monitor you choose.
Aidan wrote:The problem with 60Hz monitors are ghosting, which 120hz+ do not have.
The IPS Dell Ultrasharp may be a 8ms monitor but in all honesty the reverse ghosting is quite small and it is still, overall, very responsive; meanwhile the 120hz 2ms BenQ monitor has such terrible overdrive that it is, by far, the worst monitor when it comes to motion performance despite being a professional gaming monitor endorsed by Counterstrike legends HeatoN and SpawN. It is even worse than the 12ms HP IPS monitor, which wasn’t intended for gaming at all.
Input lag, one part of calculating monitor latency, is the most important value concerning fast paced gaming (think Enemy Territory, Quake, Counterstrike) and not panel response speed.
Ghosting/blurring, the second part of monitor latency, is a relative non-issue since overdrive can remove most of the blurring, monitor panels are generally quite fast now, and AMD video cards can force overdrive should the monitor have none. You might still notice ghosting but a lot of people do not really mind it.
Aidan wrote:One can't generalize refresh rates in to one category...
The problem with 60Hz monitors are ghosting, which 120hz+ do not have.
Aidan wrote:Well thanks you two, this does make sense.
I do wonder what settings all monitors are on though. Although I'm going to assume they've optimized them for the best quality possible.
Magniir wrote:best practice is to re-calibrate your monitor every time you work,
Dae wrote:I'm not a spec but I haven't heard that software calibration is anywhere near as good as with a hardware calibrator.
Magniir wrote:Is it really worth buying a new PC every year?