Day Z

[Aidan]

Alot of my clan mates have reported fps issues with the latest update.

[James]

Rocket is heading in a bad direction, he should not be adding so much and stop development on the alpha for ARMA2 and get it working in closed testing on ARMA3.

But alas, this mod brings in too much money.

[James]

I'm sick of this mod.

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23:25 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: hmmm
23:25 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: you care about DayZ bale?
23:25 - Bale: what
23:26 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: just asking
23:27 - Bale: what does it mean
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Nothing
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: jesus
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: just asking
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: especially since it's being killed
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Half of that is being done by popularity
23:29 - Bale: how
23:29 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: the other half, by the dev
23:30 - Bale: what happened
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: community just keeps getting worse
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: well you know how it is
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: when games get popular like that
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: oh wait
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: literally just got linked this
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1340393024424.png
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: case in point
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: let's ignore that for a second
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: the developer has his head so far up his ass it's ridiculous
23:30 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and states himself
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: that he considers it a social experiment
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: not a game
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: now of course if you're developing a social experiment
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: you sure as hell aren't developing a game
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and that's exactly what the dev is doing
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: he's making horrible decisions about the core design of the game
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: which i wouldn't bother explaining in detail unless you did play it
23:31 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: I don't know.
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Popularity went to his head i guess.
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Refuses to do step backs
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: or to admit he's fucking up
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: basically recent patches are all focused on his horrible new ideas to make people play the game the way HE wants
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and believe me
23:32 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: they ARE horrible ideas
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: anyone with a brain can see that he's just lost it
23:33 - Bale: how does he wants them to play it
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: then of course on the other side you have all those too young, stupid, or not enough into gaming that can't see that all his recent choices are terrible
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and just suck his cock
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Fuck if i know bale
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: let me tell you that for instance the last patch removed your (shitty) gun at spawn
23:33 - Bale: wat
23:33 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and you can no longer sneak by zombies
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: they see for miles
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and are extremely aware
23:34 - Bale: wat
23:34 - Bale: ok thats dum
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: it's literally better to run and hide now
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: but
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: really
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: no
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: you can't understand
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: because you didn't play dayz before
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: let's also mention
23:34 - Bale: i do know
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: that the mod now runs on a BETA version of OA
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: not the steam version
23:34 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: a beta one
23:34 - Bale: i watched many videos and read many stories
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Seriously i can't be arsed talking longer about this
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: let's just say that
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: this mod took the path to self destruction
23:35 - Bale: :(
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and half of it will be done by the popularity
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: half of it by the developer
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: if things keep going this way
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: frankly
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: it's EXACTLY what happened with Minecraft
23:35 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: except that for my taste Minecraft was always a piece of shit
23:35 - Bale: and
23:35 - Bale: ace of spades
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: while this was the best thing since stalker
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: ...That's it.
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Kind of makes me sad.
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Ace of spades?
23:36 - Bale: :<
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: Didn't play recent releases.
23:36 - Bale: recent?
23:36 - Bale: i stopped aaages ago
23:36 - Surprise!: feel sorry for anyone who bought arma2 for dayz
23:36 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: I feel sorry for not being able to play dayz before 1.7.1
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: you know
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: if dayz gets a proper release
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: again
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: as in not one that needs a beta version of the game
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: i'm probably going to kill everyone on sight all the time
23:38 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: which i kind of did before
23:39 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: but this time it'll feel better
23:39 - Bale: :o
23:40 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: 0:36 - Surprise!: feel sorry for anyone who bought arma2 for dayz
23:40 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: HEHEHE
23:43 - Surprise!: except de
23:43 - Surprise!: x
23:44 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: biggest problem with arma 2 games is that
23:44 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: whatever you want to do
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: you're gonna have to mess around with some mod or at least map
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: like
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: wanna do a coop mission?
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: You'll want to get one from some website
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and the most interesting things about it are all mods
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: heard there's this
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: "dynamic zombie sandbox"
23:45 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: which is p cool
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: bale
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: bale
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=13479
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: This
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: this guy says everything wrong
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: in a way better way than i do
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: i'm going to save this to my bookmarks
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and when someone will talk about dayz or ask about it i'll be able to say
23:48 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: i was there
23:49 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and this man, Tekdrake
23:49 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: he spoke at the beginning of the end
23:49 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: ?
23:50 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: im pretty sure this will yield a 404 soon enough alex
23:50 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: or is this a third party site?
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: ?
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: it's a
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: regular forum
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: the official dayz forum
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and it was posted like
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: 06-17-2012, 02:41 PM
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: see
23:50 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: hmm
23:50 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: a week ago
23:50 - ★✔啊(´･ω･`) ~DENKO~ (´･ω･`)啊✔★: well ok :S
23:51 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: and look
23:51 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: despite his fucking shithead attitude
23:51 - Jorkell the Forest Fairy: even some of the forum dicksuckers admit it: he's fucking right

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[clyzm]

I visited that topic

Jesus christ the OP must have been rump roasted or something I never have seen somebody worked up over a mod like that

He had a couple points but they were quickly overshadowed by excessive flame

And yeah this mod/"social experiment" got boring after a while. It's a good prototype though (or was) for a MMOFPS.

One thing I don't like is the pride aspect of being on a 4-man Steam team, gunning down survivors with helicopters and advanced weaponry then bragging. I don't understand also where the term Carebear originated or why it's used by neckbeards to justify acting sociopathic in a video game

[Aidan]

I visited that topic

Jesus christ the OP must have been rump roasted or something I never have seen somebody worked up over a mod like that

He had a couple points but they were quickly overshadowed by excessive flame

And yeah this mod/"social experiment" got boring after a while. It's a good prototype though (or was) for a MMOFPS.

One thing I don't like is the pride aspect of being on a 4-man Steam team, gunning down survivors with helicopters and advanced weaponry then bragging. I don't understand also where the term Carebear originated or why it's used by neckbeards to justify acting sociopathic in a video game

There are a lot of casual gamers, who run through streets guns-a-blazing, and who don't feel like walking far distances for a better reward. These same people complain ALL THE TIME. They're on the DayZ forums complaining, they're in sidechat complaining. They are too damn stubborn, and have no intention on actually finding good loot, or trying to play the game properly (and when they die, because their companion needed beans; the entire world comes to an end and they quit). THOSE are Carebears

When you HAVE all of the vehicles, and military grade weaponry... You get bored. REAL bored. So many people will go on raids in either Cherno, or Elektro for kicks. I've done this before with my clan, but we usually wait for another clan to show up. 6 on 6 avg. all with military grade. Good fun.

I'm still in love with this mod. It's very fun if you play with a larger groups of people. Again, http://www.heavilyarmedclan.com Visit my site, and the mumble info is there. There are ALWAYS public players on my mumble server. If you ever feel like playing DayZ one day, hop on, and meet up with them. You're guaranteed to have a lot more fun.

[James]

Doesn't external VOIP go against the point of the mod?

[Dex]

http://games.on.net/stockholm-syndrome- ... e-in-dayz/

[Allan]

Oh god dammit. I bought CO purely to play this mod, now that's £15 I could've wasted on something else.

God fucking dammit. D:

[James]

It's not even a good mod, the players themselves made it work properly in the first few weeks.

[Kaiden]

Haven't played it in a few months now, get tired of how alpha it still is.

If they do manage something stand alone then fair enough.

[Siva]

http://games.on.net/stockholm-syndrome-how-six-men-kidnapped-me-in-dayz/

This is what makes me want to play it, it's so reminiscent of Eve in that it gives the player(s) so much freedom that it allows for these kinds of stories to exist. Sure, they're a rarity to happen ingame, but it's still pretty damn cool to read about.

And just like EvE, I probably won't ever play it.

[Kaiden]

That's just it, the chance of that happening is so low. I played it enough and once ran into people I could set something up with (which was a sniper ring hunting bandits across Chern), most of the time people will just shoot you on sight because they've been shot on sight. There's no allowing for "that guy might not shoot me", because they probably will - something I've learnt the hard way. I generally enjoy the game, just not much the community.

I guess playing with friends would be different, but I haven't met up with any yet because after spamming join for 20 minutes on a server and finally getting in it'll probably crash or you'll be so far apart that after the hour it took to walk to each other without being shot you're probably done.

[James]

That’s right, this is actually happening - DayZ will be developed as a standalone game, with me as project lead, by Bohemia Interactive. This is the fairy-tale outcome for a mod that many would have said impossible four months ago.

Development and updates of the mod will continue in parallel with the development of the game, so anyone who is playing the mod now will be able to continue to do so. The project will follow the Minecraft development model; fast iterations with the community alpha available for a heavily discounted price.

I realize people will have many, many questions - but we wanted to let everyone know the announcement now. Over the coming weeks, these questions will be answered. The game will have it’s own site, www.dayzgame.com and the mod will continue at it’s present link.

Hmmm.

[Aidan]

I've began the disbandment of my clan. We're still going to keep the mumble server as it is cheap as all hell; but the Clan was beginning to feel a lot like Day Care. Now we're just a big group of friends who enjoy playing together.

I think DayZ will be great as a standalone game. The mod itself is still very fun to play if you get a few friends, and hope there isn't a hacker in the server.

[James]

https://twitter.com/IntegerDevourer/sta ... 0440076289

Clans being part of the problem

[Aidan]

https://twitter.com/IntegerDevourer/status/232819660440076289

Clans being part of the problem

While I agree they could have created additional variables into the mod; PVP was a large part of its success, and is very fun.

If there was little to no PvP, the game would not be the same at ALL.

Take it from someone who has experienced both angles of gameplay, while wasting his life playing it for hours everyday using both direct chat and VOIP.

Clans aren't a problem at all (they are survivalist groups). If I were in the Hell's Angels when the Z-Day anarchy apocalypse broke out, of COURSE I'm going to team up, and survive as long as I can.

I think the REAL issue here is VOIP. There is absolutely no way to stop people from using it. Using VOIP deters others from using direct chat, meaning private bandit parties EVERYWHERE. Clan or no clan.

Half the time, my clan will actually use Direct Chat for psychological warfare, or to get others to hop in our VOIP (giving one permission to hop in your VOIP is the DayZ holy grail of friendship).

The second issue here are hackers. What is the point of 'surviving,' if at some random point you will drop dead because of a command injection? This is why there has been a large decrease in players lately. DayZ pushed what battleye was truly capable of; and was exposed as being rubbish as it is easily bypassed.

IMO, there aren't many things to do about this except fear tactics. Fear by $. $20 for a new GUID, and say... $40 for a new DayZ account. Cost should motivate others to play fairly. Sure people don't mind throwing away $20 for a new GUID every week or so; but how about $60 every week?

In life lessons: When something of value to one is expensive; one treats it as gold.

[Aidan]

OKAY, so...

Standalone is supposed to come out this month of December. However, Rocket has announced that they are practically making a new engine out of the base of their Virtual Reality 3 engine. Having said this, it could be a little while longer we will have to wait.

On a side note, I tried WarZ and it SUCKED. Got my money back though.

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[Tantalus]

I read somewhere that it is being ported to ArmA 3's engine, which would make sense.

The War Z's gameplay looked so dreadful, so very very boring.

[Kaiden]

Looked at WarZ, it looked interesting enough, might get it at some point.

Everyone I know sort of lost interest in Dayz, which is a shame as I did really enjoy it, maybe the standalone will pick up.

[Aidan]

I read somewhere that it is being ported to ArmA 3's engine, which would make sense.

The War Z's gameplay looked so dreadful, so very very boring.

Yes, Rocket did confirm that they are porting their current progress over to Virtual Reality Engine 4. This transition will mean rebuilding a lot of code, thus extending the release date to sometime in the new year.

I just want them to take their time and perfect it the best they can.




Kaiden don't do it m8. I thought the same thing, played for a while...

Then I confirmed it was a straight rip off of DayZ with shitty money-grabbing payment options so you can play Left4Dead MMO with a mangled engine.

What got me about DayZ is the realism. The actual fear, and cautious mentality it brought out in me. WarZ does not have this.

[James]

WarZ is a quick buck designed by a company going bankrupt soon, it resembles their old game too much. It isnt fun at all.

Also, fuck Rocket and fuck Dayz

[Aidan]

Also, fuck Rocket and fuck Dayz

I don't see a reason to not like either; but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

[James]

He pretty much ruined his own mod dude.

[Kaiden]

Some of the blog posts for the standalone are interesting (tumblr hurr)

http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/

[Aidan]

He pretty much ruined his own mod dude.

How can you be for certain though? We haven't seen, or played the finished product.

Is there some sort of staggering news I don't know about?

[James]

Do you really expect this to be any different in the final version? It's nothing but a glorified deathmatch that has been over-exposed and already receiving a lot of imitators. Hell, it is objectively nowhere near the best mod for ArmA2 and was only receiving coverage is because of zombies, which are more interesting than a military simulator to the average gamer.

The directions in the mod while it was still for ArmA2 was confusing, many agreed and dropped it very quickly after being fed up with the changes or the stupid people who played after it got too popular, it really was at its best in the first few days.

[Aidan]

Hmm, come to think of it... Yeah, you're right. It isn't as good as it was, when it first came out.

In order to stop the deathmatch situation, they would have to give good reasons not to shoot anyone on sight


<s>Don't you think that they might have taken these things into consideration?</s> Rocket did say, they're willing to extend the development time to at LEAST a year. I only hope that Bohemia will let them work on it for a long time, and not pull an EA; Launch within a month.


Yes, there are a lot of copycats out; but I have yet to see any comparable mod to DayZ. So that doesn't really worry me.

I striked out that sentence because of an FB chat I'm having with Matt Lightfoot. I'll post screens later lol.

[Aidan]

YEAH, WE'RE SCREWED.

[James]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_SKBJaJBcI

[Kaiden]

Pretty much agree with that Matthew, no real way around any of what you said. What stops you not killing someone infront of you IRL is morality, among other things, you can't impose them in a game without limits, which doesn't seem to be what Day Z is about.

Oh well regardless I'll take a look at the standalone.