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NVIDIA Driver Problems (175.16 GeForce)

Postby Dex » Sat May 17, 08 4:54 pm

I installed the new driver 175.16 so that I wouldn't have to use the old one (5.73.22.16.51). Strangely, after the installation I was unable to select the resolution setting 1280x1024@60Hz which was the max supported by my monitor. I was only able to use 1280x1024@70Hz which made the screen all blurry, flickering and it had uncorrect screen position and things like that. I rolled back drivers, but still I want to use the new driver. Is it possible that you tell me how to fix this, or at least refer me to a site & forum where I can ask this kind of question?
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Re: NVIDIA Driver Problems (175.16 GeForce)

Postby Alex » Sat May 17, 08 5:24 pm

Dextruktor wrote:I installed the new driver 175.16 so that I wouldn't have to use the old one (5.73.22.16.51). Strangely, after the installation I was unable to select the resolution setting 1280x1024@60Hz which was the max supported by my monitor. I was only able to use 1280x1024@70Hz which made the screen all blurry, flickering and it had uncorrect screen position and things like that. I rolled back drivers, but still I want to use the new driver. Is it possible that you tell me how to fix this, or at least refer me to a site & forum where I can ask this kind of question?

Let's see... nVidia driver. What about... the... NVIDIA FORUMS? Not that damn hard.
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Postby Psycho » Sat May 17, 08 6:12 pm

Wow your driver is shit, I have a nivida gforce 2 :D
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Postby Dex » Sat May 17, 08 6:18 pm

Doh #-o

The NVIDIA Forums, thanks Alex
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Postby Destroyerzero » Sat May 17, 08 7:50 pm

The one thing that concerns me is this.....

1280 x 1024 is a 5 : 4 aspect ratio which has no real bearing on any form of media out there. You should try 1280 x 960 for 4 : 3 aspect ratio.

Your Nvidia Settings Panel is supposed to allow you to add resolutions if you know them. Install your monitor driver and your profile gets updated and sync'ed with your video card. Your resolution and refresh rate should be available to you.
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Postby Jon » Sat May 17, 08 7:56 pm

1280 x 1024 is default for most 17" monitors. Get a clue.
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Postby Destroyerzero » Sat May 17, 08 7:59 pm

I have more than a "clue."

I know for a fact that while a Desktop Resolution may give you 1280 x 1024, the 5 : 4 aspect ratio itself makes it so about everything being displayed on the monitor, from stretched icons, to movies, to games......destroys your performance.

I remember my days dealing with such resolution.

Also, I provided a solution with my post.
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Postby Jon » Sat May 17, 08 8:03 pm

Destroyerzero wrote:I know for a fact that while a Desktop Resolution may give you 1280 x 1024, the 5 : 4 aspect ratio itself makes it so about everything being displayed on the monitor, from stretched icons, to movies, to games......destroys your performance.


...What the hell?

We're talking about a GFX setting here, not the best position you should sit in front of your TV to get just the right feeling of awe in Bad Boys 2. Most resolutions on such monitors are at 1280 x 1024 - its a common resolution!
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Postby Dae » Sat May 17, 08 8:36 pm

I'm not an expert, but it shouldn't stretch anything if the sensor was made for that ratio
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Postby Dex » Sat May 17, 08 8:41 pm

17" inch LCD monitor
1280x1024 - nothing streched

EDIT: What the hell... I posted and the forums are offline due to maintenance problems?
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Postby Jon » Sat May 17, 08 8:54 pm

Hes talking about watching media in that aspect ratio, not the actual screen capabilities.
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Postby Destroyerzero » Sat May 17, 08 9:58 pm

Jon wrote:
Destroyerzero wrote:I know for a fact that while a Desktop Resolution may give you 1280 x 1024, the 5 : 4 aspect ratio itself makes it so about everything being displayed on the monitor, from stretched icons, to movies, to games......destroys your performance.


...What the hell?

We're talking about a GFX setting here, not the best position you should sit in front of your TV to get just the right feeling of awe in Bad Boys 2. Most resolutions on such monitors are at 1280 x 1024 - its a common resolution!


I'll play your game then.

320 x 240 = 4 : 3 //SAI resolution
640 x 480 = 4 : 3 //XSAI resolution
800 x 600 = 4 : 3 //The resolution most web pages are designed for
1024 x 768 = 4 : 3 //Original Resolution Optimized for most Game Engines
1280 x 960 = 4 : 3 //2XSAI resolution
1280 x 1024 = 5 : 4 // Only registered resolution in this aspect ratio
1600 x 1200 = 4 : 3 //Recommended resolution on 19 inch CRTs, where most overlapping doesnt occur although 1280 x 960 and 1600 x 1200 results in the same image quality
1920 x 1440 = 4 : 3 //
2048 x 1536 = 4 : 3 //XSAI form for 1024 x 768 as well as SS resolution for 1024 x 768

1280 x 720 = 16 : 9 //Motion Picture Aspect Ratio
1280 x 800 = 16 : 10
1680 x 1050 = 16 : 10
1920 x 1200 = 16 : 10
1920 x 1080 = 16 : 9 //Official HDTVspecification resolution
2560 x 1600 = 16 : 10

19200 x 19200 x 9600 (1 : 1 : .5) //Used by Military Battle Platform Defensive Imaging Systems for Campaign and topographical Mapping. Replaced the old TXI Analog systems. Also used by Industrial Light and Magic, and the United States Army Corps of Engineers.

Of course you can define custom resolutions...

Tutorial: How to determine your best resolution. This is for CRT owners only. LCDs by specification must have 1 : 1 scale at native resolution. That is why their native resolution is the best picture quality to any LCD resolution. There is no pixel overlap

Measure the Horizonal Area of the screen with a tape measure. Convert such measurement into Millimeters. Divide your Dot Pitch by the measurement. The result is the Horizontal Resolution where pixels remain at 1 : 1 without any pixels overlapping with one anohter. Do the same for the Vertical resolution. Create the Custom resolution and use the refresh rate one step lower from the next resolution.

1 : 1 pixel ratio within your aspect ratio gives you the best quality always.

Question:

"If 1280 x 1024 is such a common resolution, how come only one resolution within that aspect ratio exists and why was the aspect ratio abandoned?"
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Postby Jon » Sat May 17, 08 11:14 pm

Again, what has this got to do with aspect ratio?

You've just wasted a good 5 mins of your time trying to prove that people don't actually use 17" monitors very often. And not really got anywhere. I'm really not sure why you're blowing this out of proportion, but you're reminding me of a very good friend I know that also likes to deviate from the point.

Again, 1280 x 1024 is a common resolution for a PC monitor. We're talking about Nvidia graphics on computer monitors, not any other item of hardware that just happens to have an aspect ratio - your post holds no relevance!
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Postby Destroyerzero » Sun May 18, 08 12:25 am

Ok, which lie are you going to side with?

1280 x 1024 is default for most 17" monitors. Get a clue.


or

Again, 1280 x 1024 is a common resolution for a PC monitor.


Default or Common?

There is no such thing as COMMON or DEFAULT in LCD monitors. There is only NATIVE RESOLUTION.

ALL LCD monitors have 1 resolution. That is called a NATIVE RESOLUTION, which have a 1 : 1 pixel ratio and thier own ASPECT RATIO. ANY OTHER RESOLUTION you select from your driver is actually taking the NATIVE RESOLUTION, cutting out a section of such resolution and displaying it.

If you speak of CRTs, there is no common resolution because CRTs have the gift that there is no native resolution, so the resolutions present all have their own profiles. I don't know where you get this word "Common" or "default" from.....

BTW, your post......in regards to Televisions and bad boys two...Widescreen movies are 16 : 9 aspect ratio, while Formatted for TV tend to be 640 x 480 (PAL) and 720 x 480 (NTSC), none of these resolutions are 5 : 4....Which mean that you will see blacklines to scale the movie well.

I already stated that Dextruktor can use his Nvidia Panel to ADD the resolution :)
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Postby Dex » Sun May 18, 08 8:55 am

I've added the resolution and it works normally, thanks for the help.
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