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Unveiling Alpha’s secrets — confessions, only truth

Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 7:40 pm

Alpha bowed out from the community in May 2008, but still there are many speculations about our past on several forums in the internet. I'd like to lay down my cards on the table and unveil every secret about Deus Ex community, our clan, activities, plans, mistakes etc.

I promise to tell the truth and not to go away from the answer unless the question is inappropriate.

I will be posting those secrets in a random order in several parts, but you're free to ask your question (even if you were our enemy etc).

Some answers may be interesting, some may be not.
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Postby Siva » Mon Jan 05, 09 7:55 pm

Did you develop hacks?

And not just to text CRD, I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks.
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Postby Baleout » Mon Jan 05, 09 7:59 pm

Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 8:02 pm

Part 1
  1. Once I hacked MiniMTL forum (the one on DeusExGaming) and downloaded all the attachments from it. I told Nobody about the vulnerability, though.
  2. I also hacked DestroyerZero's forum, downloaded the backup of it, browsed private discussions and as well told DestroyerZero about the vulnerability.
  3. I hacked [TT] forum. I don't remember what I did to it, but I haven't told anyone about this before now.
  4. I didn't hack any more forums (I think).
  5. In 2003 not many people knew about LAM bug (the one which allows you to dupe LAMs near walls). I didn't abuse it to kill people, but I couldn't resist spreading it among my friends (one of them was [MTX or [TGU] Oracle).
  6. In 2004 I decided to merge |ALPHA| with German clan [A]ssassins. The only reason behind the merger was to take over [A]ssassins and their sexy one letter tag. This was indeed a shady dealing :) After the merger, we gained weight in the community — but all original [A]ssassins left the new clan. This event started a new trend/fashion of one letter tags (e.g. [F], [V], [N], [R] and many more).
  7. Klop/Gishank was a member of Alpha for a few hours (he had access to private forums etc).
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Postby Alex » Mon Jan 05, 09 8:06 pm

Protocol wrote:Did you develop hacks?

And not just to text CRD, I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks.

Yes, we did.
Baleout wrote:Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.

No, we didn't. Nearly noone of the clan had access to our hacks.
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 8:11 pm

Protocol wrote:Did you develop hacks?

Yes, a lot of.

Protocol wrote:I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks

All in all it happened ~3 times, we wanted to test the hacks in the "live environent" and of course, that led to annoyance of players who felt victims during that. Once, when Alex was caught on a demorec, I told off him for that.

But in all honesty, we never wanted to harass people or get any better scores, we didn't use hacks just for that. That wasn't interesting. It was interesting to hack into the game — yeah, that's for sure.

I'll cover some questions about CRD/hacks in the next parts.

Baleout wrote:Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.

Never.
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Postby Siva » Mon Jan 05, 09 8:20 pm

Dae wrote:But in all honesty, we never wanted to harass people or get any better scores, we didn't use hacks just for that. That wasn't interesting. It was interesting to hack into the game — yeah, that's for sure.


I respect your honesty Dae, I figured you would say that. Lord knows I am guilty of using a colourbot a couple of times for the hell of it.
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jan 05, 09 10:35 pm

Lmao, what compelled you to make Klop a member for a few hours?
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 05, 09 10:42 pm

Did a member of Alpha ever meet another member in person?
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 10:54 pm

cataclyzm wrote:Did a member of Alpha ever meet another member in person?

I met Jay in 2004, the whole meeting was like 10 minutes. I better not remember that though (:oops:), because I should've organized it properly... the host (good friends of my parents in Mancity) were scared when I notified them that I wanted to meet an online friend, and I was pretty much limited.

~Psychotic~ wrote:what compelled you to make Klop a member for a few hours?

Max started a poll if we should let Klop in, and eventually "yes" prevailed. I put a veto on that, but some mods let him in anyway. I think Kloppeh even posted a message like "what the hell" in our private forum. It was worth it :lol:
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 05, 09 10:59 pm

Who was the _best_ player ever to enter the clan, in terms of skill?

Also, who was the member who most joined/left many times?

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Postby MrBlackDX » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:01 pm

I have a secret

Sonic Da Hedgehog clan were all members of [V]engeance and [A]lpha
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Postby James » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:04 pm

Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

MrBlack wrote:I have a secret

Sonic Da Hedgehog clan were all members of [V]engeance and [A]lpha


OH.

MY.

GOD.


Klop/Gishank was a member of Alpha for a few hours (he had access to private forums etc).


Oh and I got shouted at for it!
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Postby Psycho » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:04 pm

Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)
I appreciate the honesty btw :P
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:06 pm

cataclyzm wrote:Also, who was the member who most joined/left many times?

Raiden

cataclyzm wrote:Who was the _best_ player ever to enter the clan, in terms of skill?

it's hard to judge because 0aug and ATDM require different skills

I'd say MastaKilla... but Splitter, Mahou were also very good in both game types
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Postby MrBlackDX » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:06 pm

~þsÿçhø~ wrote:Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)
I appreciate the honesty btw :P


I can answer that

Klop and Danny have always had low performance, therefore any claims by them can be disregarded
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:09 pm

~þsÿçhø~ wrote:Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)

yes, as I said above (see my answer to Protocol's question)

James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:11 pm

Did [A] hack [4] forums?
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Postby MrBlackDX » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:11 pm

Dae wrote:
James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts


Well they were correct about James then
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:12 pm

Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm

cataclyzm wrote:
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?


I joined the community in 1998, while we were still waiting for Deus Ex to come out. I know EVERYTHING.
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Postby James » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm

MrBlack wrote:
Dae wrote:
James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts


Well they were correct about James then


I'm not a pervert.
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm

Stefan wrote:
cataclyzm wrote:
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?


I joined the community in 1998, while we were still waiting for Deus Ex to come out. I know EVERYTHING.


You lie to me.
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:16 pm

cataclyzm wrote:You lie to me.


What do you mean? I do not understand.
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:16 pm

Stefan wrote:
cataclyzm wrote:You lie to me.


What do you mean? I do not understand.


You LIE
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:19 pm

cataclyzm wrote:You LIE


What are you doing? Stop it.
I just asked did [A] hack [4].
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Postby MrBlackDX » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:19 pm

It would be interesting to know who has actually met each other in real life after meeting on Deus Ex

I've always considered it, but the only people I know from the south west are Mahou and Nash (old ][M][ and [V] member), I never managed to get to know Mahou very well and me and Nash always ended up missing each other by annoying coincidence (he would be in Bristol when I wasn't etc...)
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:20 pm

Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?

no
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Postby MrBlackDX » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:22 pm

Technically weren't James and Chococat members of [A] around the time they met up?

Or am I incorrect?
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 05, 09 11:23 pm

MrBlack wrote:Technically weren't James and Chococat members of [A] around the time they met up?

formally, Chococat was never a member of [A]
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