Religion

[Cereal]

DK, I'd love to discuss it with you on MSN or NPF, but I'd rather not do it here where even before it starts Cataclyzm has to have some reason to jump on anything I might say.

Private message me if you want my email, it's a private email so if you do ask for it, I'd trust you not to give it out to anyone. Otherwise, we could start a new thread on NPF where at least any people like Cataclyzm will be taken care of before they get a chance to open their mouths and spew bile.

[clyzm]

What did I say Steve? The guy is practically the emo of debaters. Grow some pubes and then start debating, little boy.

[~Hy[ß]rid~]

A month later and this topics still rocking.

[DarkKnight]

DK, I'd love to discuss it with you on MSN or NPF, but I'd rather not do it here where even before it starts Cataclyzm has to have some reason to jump on anything I might say.

Private message me if you want my email, it's a private email so if you do ask for it, I'd trust you not to give it out to anyone. Otherwise, we could start a new thread on NPF where at least any people like Cataclyzm will be taken care of before they get a chance to open their mouths and spew bile.

Nah that's not needed.

It's pretty simple the way I see it; Burden of full proof must rest with both sides. Prove it first, then preach it. And by proof, I mean real facts that them self can be back tracked to facts.

It is a common misconception that I am a bible basher. However I don't belong to any church, I simply don't like the one sided bashing of religion by a lot of people who are hard pressed understand the basics of what they believe in. That, and:

flame wars are fun.

[Cureless_Poison]

Just one thing all people should really look at and think about,when you ask someone what religion they "Believe" they say whatever god they "Believe" in.

Notice anything unusual? when they answer they always say "i ""Believe"" in suchnsuch a god" cant people see religion is just Believe? its not knowlage or anything thats real...its just believe....believe.

Its nothing real,its nothing that could exist in actuality...its just what you believe,people choosing one piece of thought to keep as a focus you see,there are no gods or special places after death its just a thought which is being focused.

Religion is nothing more than the mind choosing a piece of information that has been repeated in their heads over and over till it becomes large enough to become a focus,excess info stored in your head put there from nuns and priests and rabbis and monks telling you stories of some people long ago in a place that doesent exist,untill it overloads your mind and you begin to think that its real...there might be an afterlife,and there may be souls,but that depends on what you believe...so be collectiong small parts of a large story into your mind subconciously you ellect that story as a default to your mind and it becomes your focus,your point of existance,it effects every other part of your life,and alters your ability to compregend decicions,it controlls you to some extent........

Like the chinese generals say to the Dhalilama: "Religion Is Poison"...and it seems like cancer now,a single bit if information collecting more unto itself becoming larger and larger till it becomes a focus.....until thats what you believe.

So what im trying to say is,religion isint real,and it doesent exist,it just grows in you so to say....

[Cereal]

What did I say Steve? The guy is practically the emo of debaters. Grow some pubes and then start debating, little boy.

I'm emo because I want to debate and not have a flame war?





DK, I would have enjoyed a discussion but it's apparent that we won't get to have one. It would have been fun.

[DarkKnight]

Just one thing all people should really look at and think about,when you ask someone what religion they "Believe" they say whatever god they "Believe" in.

Notice anything unusual? when they answer they always say "i ""Believe"" in suchnsuch a god" cant people see religion is just Believe? its not knowlage or anything thats real...its just believe....believe.

Its nothing real,its nothing that could exist in actuality...its just what you believe,people choosing one piece of thought to keep as a focus you see,there are no gods or special places after death its just a thought which is being focused.

Religion is nothing more than the mind choosing a piece of information that has been repeated in their heads over and over till it becomes large enough to become a focus,excess info stored in your head put there from nuns and priests and rabbis and monks telling you stories of some people long ago in a place that doesent exist,untill it overloads your mind and you begin to think that its real...there might be an afterlife,and there may be souls,but that depends on what you believe...so be collectiong small parts of a large story into your mind subconciously you ellect that story as a default to your mind and it becomes your focus,your point of existance,it effects every other part of your life,and alters your ability to compregend decicions,it controlls you to some extent........

Like the chinese generals say to the Dhalilama: "Religion Is Poison"...and it seems like cancer now,a single bit if information collecting more unto itself becoming larger and larger till it becomes a focus.....until thats what you believe.

So what im trying to say is,religion isint real,and it doesent exist,it just grows in you so to say....

Buddhism is more of a way of life then a religion... but of course you knew that...
(The monks also hurt _no one_ so even suggesting the Chinese are in a position to justify what they've done is both moronic and blind.)

[clyzm]

What did I say Steve? The guy is practically the emo of debaters. Grow some pubes and then start debating, little boy.

I'm emo because I want to debate and not have a flame war?





DK, I would have enjoyed a discussion but it's apparent that we won't get to have one. It would have been fun.

You don't know how to debate. You're an emo because you think I'll ruin your debates and you want to get somewhere else away from me. I'm here motherfucker, get used to it.

[Cereal]

Good job?

You will ruin the debate. You've ruined 2 I've been involved in here already. Any time we're in the same thread it evolves into a flame war. The fact that I wanted to go to another site or to MSN was because I wanted to have an intelligent discussion with someone, and not have 5 pages of Internet drama. DK said no, so it's done. I don't know what your problem is.

I'd been assured by 2 people so far that the problem with you had been taken care of, but obviously some people here get special treatment.

[clyzm]

2 people? Really... Who were these 2 people?

I'm an [A] member you stupid prick. This is my clan forums. I can get banned for flaming but I'm not gonna get banned just because some whiny little kid doesn't like me proving him wrong. And the way I see it, you're a foreigner to these forums so don't tell me I should get banned. I've been here longer than you so I'd advise you to shut up.

And lmao. You expect to have an intelligent discussion... on the internet? That's just sad.

[Snakey]

And lmao. You expect to have an intelligent discussion... on the internet? That's just sad.

Makes no sense.

[clyzm]

Let's just say the internet isn't the place you would want to go to for "intelligent" debates & colloquies like what Cereal is suggesting.

[Cereal]

I never said you should get banned, I said you should follow the rules like everyone else is expected to.

The Internet is a perfectly acceptable place to have an intelligent conversation if you can find someone else who wants to have that conversation. Why are you trying so hard to rile me up again?

[clyzm]

You never answered my question.

Which two people are you talking about?

[Cereal]

I'm not sure if they would want me to say, because it took place in private messages, but I don't suppose it would hurt to post one of the messages themselves as proof. (It should be taken as proof since it refers to something in the private section, which I obviously have no access to):

It seems to me that he is bad mood currently. We even had a rant in our private forums — that has never happened there before. I will talk to moderators, so they will be strict to his posts. If he continues acting like that, we'll start giving warnings.
And yes, please do not enter into this rant with him as its almost the same thing.

And since this person asked me to not fight with you, this is the last thing I'll say regarding the subject, ok?

[clyzm]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

[DarkKnight]

Let's just say clan forums aren't the place you would want to go to for "intelligent" debates & colloquies like what Cereal is suggesting.

Fixed.

[xProtocol Rain]

I'm not sure if they would want me to say, because it took place in private messages, but I don't suppose it would hurt to post one of the messages themselves as proof. (It should be taken as proof since it refers to something in the private section, which I obviously have no access to):

It seems to me that he is bad mood currently. We even had a rant in our private forums — that has never happened there before. I will talk to moderators, so they will be strict to his posts. If he continues acting like that, we'll start giving warnings.
And yes, please do not enter into this rant with him as its almost the same thing.

And since this person asked me to not fight with you, this is the last thing I'll say regarding the subject, ok?

Was that recent?

[clyzm]

PM.

The debate against Dae took place in the 0 augs topic Jon made, look in Clanwars.

[Spiderbot01]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

[Krieg]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

Indeed it isn't , but it is fucking fun to do so

[clyzm]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

He acts stupid on the forums everywhere, and when I tell him to shut up he thinks its a personal attack rather than the "i don't give a shit about you" attack.

[MrBlackDX]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

He acts stupid on the forums everywhere, and when I tell him to shut up he thinks its a personal attack rather than the "i don't give a shit about you" attack.

i think a lot of people take offense from "shut up"

blame emotions, and take some Prozium

[Mastakilla]

Shut up.

[Cereal]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

He acts stupid on the forums everywhere, and when I tell him to shut up he thinks its a personal attack rather than the "i don't give a shit about you" attack.

i think a lot of people take offense from "shut up"

blame emotions, and take some Prozium

Pretty much. Or am I supposed to act like his bitch and take it up the ass like some other people here do? I behave myself, and I don't "act stupid" anywhere.

It seems to me if he didn't want to hear anything I said, then he wouldn't read any of my replies.

[MrBlackDX]

Lol.

Complaining to a third party huh? I never provoked anything, I was replying to your stupid posts but you just can't handle the internet. So you complain to others about me, whilst still trapped in your delusions that I actually have something against you.

What next, if I say I'll come to your house, will you call the police? Wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Derek, he's done nothing wrong. Leave him alone. Debating isn't badgering the opposition until they don't want to debate anymore.

He acts stupid on the forums everywhere, and when I tell him to shut up he thinks its a personal attack rather than the "i don't give a shit about you" attack.

i think a lot of people take offense from "shut up"

blame emotions, and take some Prozium

Pretty much. Or am I supposed to act like his bitch and take it up the ass like some other people here do? I behave myself, and I don't "act stupid" anywhere.

It seems to me if he didn't want to hear anything I said, then he wouldn't read any of my replies.

tbh

no one reads replies if they are over 4 sentences long and don't have homo-erotic innuendo

welcome to A forums

[Krieg]

Some people don't even read replies at all lol