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Postby Mr. Tastix » Sun Jul 23, 06 11:50 am

~Confused~ wrote:I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


Yes that's true, however. "Accidents" of this kind shouldn't have to have happened and the parents should've educated the children about sex and the consequences of it.

You should learn sex at the age of 12 up and a school provides information but not as much as parents could provide. I doubt that schools would go into detail on the consequences of sex are. My high school sure didn't.

Very good statement though, and I agree with all of it.
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Postby DarkKnight » Sun Jul 23, 06 5:27 pm

~Confused~ wrote:I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you post...
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Postby Siva » Sun Jul 23, 06 5:30 pm

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~Confused~ wrote:I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you post...


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Postby DarkKnight » Sun Jul 23, 06 6:07 pm

XII//:Prod1gy wrote:Elaborate.


Very well.

I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.


Girls bodies don't stop growing untill the age of (around) 16'ish. Untill their body completes it's changes from girl to woman, they are not phisically, and perhaps more importantly, mentally ready to have kids, let alone start a relationship to raise said kid.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


This, I find, is seriously screwed sense of logic.

Ignoring the fact that in any civil country, having sex with a minor consitutes statutory rape, let's look at what you're saying.

Firstly.
Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child.


Ignoring the fact the first blurb makes no grammatical sense, I find two flaws in this thinking.

1) That having a child at that age will make you a stronger person. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if it actually was an accident, chances are while the mother might (and I say might because the adoption rate for under-age mothers is high) love their child, in most cases, she would not do it again.

There is also statistical proof to say that children born to under-age mothers/fathers have a drastically increased chance at becoming young mothers/fathers them self.

2) In 90% of cases, the father does not stick around, and the mother is left to face the whole thing by her self. However, you have, I will assume unknowningly, used words that imply the father has a right to choose if he shall tend to his child. When 'accidents' happen, and the mother wants the father around, he doesn't have a choice at all, and should be held accountable to the full force of the law. If you don't want the responcibility, keep it zipped.

Moving on.
ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


Quite right in one aspect, only 13% of teen pergancies are actually planned. But it's wrong from there on in.

Flaws;

1) Simply because there kids having kids, does not making the situation correct.

2) I'm going to assume you've had 'experience' in this, but inorder to have a baby, you need to make two consious decisions; The first being to have sex in the first place. Secondly, the use of protection if you are having sex. Only when the protection you use fails can you call it an 'accident'. No protection = baby waiting to happen.

3) Sitting back and 'learning a life lesson' most people can do without will not solve the problem of kids having kids now will it? It IS a problem, you only need to see the effect is has on young peoples lives to see this.

4) It is frowned apon because, in these cases, the kids are still that - kids.

Each year, nearly one million teens in the US, approximately 10% of all 15-19 year old females -- become pregnant. About 1/3 of these teens abort their pregnancies, 14% miscarry, and 52% (or more than half a million teens) bear children, 72% of them out of wedlock. Of the half a million teens giving birth, roughly 3/4 are giving birth for the first time.


Consequences for the children of adolescent mothers

Children of adolescent mothers are more likely than children of later childbearers to have health and cognitive disadvantages and to be neglected or abused.

A. Low Birthweight Babies - The children of adolescents are more likely to be born prematurely and 50% more likely to be low-birthweight babies -- of less than 5.5 lbs. Low birthweight raises the probabilities of a variety of adverse conditions such as infant death, blindness, deafness, chronic respiratory problems, mental retardation, mental illness, and cerebral palsy. It also doubles the chance a child will later be diagnosed as having dyslexia, hyperactivity, or another disability.

B. Childhood Health Problems - The children of adolescent moms tend to suffer poorer health than do the children of women who were age 20 or 21 when their first child was born.

C. Children of adolescent moms are 2-3 times more likely than the children of their older childbearing counterparts to report having run away from home between the ages of 12 to 16.

D. Children of adolescent moms are also far more likely to be physically abused, abandoned, and neglected.

Consequences for adolescent mothers

* 7 out of 10 will drop out of high school
* During the first 13 years of parenthood, adolescent moms earn an average of about $5,600.00 annually, less than half the poverty level.
* Adolesent moms spend nearly five times more of their young adult years as single parents than do women who have their first child at age 20 or 21.


Consequences for the fathers

* Boys are 1/3 as likely as girls to become adolescent parents.
* Each year fewer than 60,000 boys age 17 and younger father children for the first time.
* The fathers of children born to adolescent mothers are, on average, 2.5 years older than the mom; in 1/5 of the cases, the fathers are at least six years older. Recent research also suggests that the incidence of pregnancy among adolescent girls often is the result of sexually predatory behavior of older men.


Adolescent Dads

* Finish an average of only 11.3 years of school by the age of 27, compared with nearly 13 years by their counterparts who delay fathering until age 21.
* By age 27, adolescent fathers earn, on average, $4,732 less annually than the comparison group of men who delay fathering until age 20 or 21.


Dads of children born to adolescent moms

* On average, earn about $3,000 less per year than the partners of delayed childbearers.
* Fathers who do not marry the adolescent mothers of their children have incomes sufficient to contribute support but only about 15% of adolescent moms are ever awarded child support.


Yeah mate, GREAT life lessons to be learned...
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Postby Siva » Sun Jul 23, 06 7:04 pm

DarkKnight Is win.
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Postby ~SanguineRose~ » Sun Jul 23, 06 7:34 pm

Excellent DarkKnight. I believe you win this one. I usually don't bother with
the idiots, they are a waste of time.
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Postby clyzm » Sun Jul 23, 06 8:09 pm

DarkKnight wrote:
~Confused~ wrote:I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you post...


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Postby DarkKnight » Sun Jul 23, 06 8:36 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:
~Confused~ wrote:I find it stupid for someone to look at that kind of situation as sickening and pointless.

Life lessons and warriors are born and for the parents who make it at that age I send congrats to for the mother even living through it the pressure from the parents and the father if he agrees to tend to his child. ALOT of people were accidents, we have 12/14 year old accidents nowdays and they're normally frowned upon and determined vulgar. but like in most bad situation theres a lesson to be learned and wisdom to be gained.


That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you post...


It's as if you've scanned my mind and taken out info from it using UltraISO.


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Postby Killa » Sun Jul 23, 06 11:02 pm

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Re: Kids having kids having kids.

Postby Chococat » Mon Jul 24, 06 12:43 pm

~Confused~ wrote:I think the youngest "Mum" in the UK is either 9 or 12 I think.

Some peeps think a baby is the answer to all their problems, and some are just stupid and think that they won't end up pregnant even without suitable contraception.. :roll:


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You actually had to ask for a confirmation of that?! Did you not know what contraception means!? Condoms, the pill, the coil, the female condom o_0, contraceptive injections, the contraceptive patch etc etc etc

Killa wrote:but yes its gross i have a cuz that got preg and before she was like skinny modal looking and she got so fat it was freaking nasty


Erm, you DO know weight gain is part of being pregnant? The way you're looking down on a woman gaining weight is horrible.

Some of you guys seriously seem to need educating on this.
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Postby ~D[A]rren~ » Mon Jul 24, 06 12:46 pm

Chococat wrote:
~Confused~ wrote:I think the youngest "Mum" in the UK is either 9 or 12 I think.

Some peeps think a baby is the answer to all their problems, and some are just stupid and think that they won't end up pregnant even without suitable contraception.. :roll:


wtf.....you meen rubber?

You actually had to ask for a confirmation of that?! Did you not know what contraception means!? Condoms, the pill, the coil, the female condom o_0, contraceptive injections, the contraceptive patch etc etc etc

Killa wrote:but yes its gross i have a cuz that got preg and before she was like skinny modal looking and she got so fat it was freaking nasty


Erm, you DO know weight gain is part of being pregnant? The way you're looking down on a woman gaining weight is horrible.

Some of you guys seriously seem to need educating on this.


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Re: Kids having kids having kids.

Postby ~Confused~ » Mon Jul 24, 06 12:48 pm

You actually had to ask for a confirmation of that?! Did you not know what contraception means!? Condoms, the pill, the coil, the female condom o_0, contraceptive injections, the contraceptive patch etc etc etc



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Postby Krieg » Mon Jul 24, 06 1:23 pm

how old are you killa because you miss some sexual education aka orientation lol
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Re: Kids having kids having kids.

Postby Killa » Mon Jul 24, 06 3:59 pm

Chococat wrote:
~Confused~ wrote:I think the youngest "Mum" in the UK is either 9 or 12 I think.

Some peeps think a baby is the answer to all their problems, and some are just stupid and think that they won't end up pregnant even without suitable contraception.. :roll:


wtf.....you meen rubber?


You actually had to ask for a confirmation of that?! Did you not know what contraception means!? Condoms, the pill, the coil, the female condom o_0, contraceptive injections, the contraceptive patch etc etc etc

Killa wrote:but yes its gross i have a cuz that got preg and before she was like skinny modal looking and she got so fat it was freaking nasty

Erm, you DO know weight gain is part of being pregnant? The way you're looking down on a woman gaining weight is horrible.

Some of you guys seriously seem to need educating on this.
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lol yes i know girls gain weight when there preg but when you have a really young girl that is really skinny thay gain massive weight to be able to support the baby..and im not looking down on it like that trust me im not that mean but after we broke up a saw her in the hall a few moths later and i was shocked cuz she has changed so much while going tho her preg
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Re: Kids having kids having kids.

Postby DarkKnight » Mon Jul 24, 06 4:21 pm

Killa wrote:
Chococat wrote:
Chococat wrote:
~Confused~ wrote:I think the youngest "Mum" in the UK is either 9 or 12 I think.

Some peeps think a baby is the answer to all their problems, and some are just stupid and think that they won't end up pregnant even without suitable contraception.. :roll:


wtf.....you meen rubber?


You actually had to ask for a confirmation of that?! Did you not know what contraception means!? Condoms, the pill, the coil, the female condom o_0, contraceptive injections, the contraceptive patch etc etc etc

Killa wrote:but yes its gross i have a cuz that got preg and before she was like skinny modal looking and she got so fat it was freaking nasty

Erm, you DO know weight gain is part of being pregnant? The way you're looking down on a woman gaining weight is horrible.

Some of you guys seriously seem to need educating on this.


lol yes i know girls gain weight when there preg but when you have a really young girl that is really skinny thay gain massive weight to be able to support the baby..and im not looking down on it like that trust me im not that mean but after we broke up a saw her in the hall a few moths later and i was shocked cuz she has changed so much while going tho her preg


What did you expect? Her body had to change to start supporting another human...

Seriously, the last thing a woman who is hormonially unstable to a large degree needs is someone saying "OMg u r fat!".
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Postby Killa » Mon Jul 24, 06 4:40 pm

I know her body was gonna change...thats a fact....

and during her preg i never said anything to her....i was still pised off at her....she had her baby like 2 moths ago at 17 yrs old... her parents dis-owned her and now ive heard shes living with family else where..its sad..thats like the last thing parents should do if they found out there daughter was preg, like kicking em outta the house is gonna be the solution and when that baby grows up hes gonna learn about that and be pissed or at grandma and grandpa forever
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Postby ~SanguineRose~ » Tue Jul 25, 06 3:34 am

Kicking a pregnate girls parents kicking her out of the house is just wrong.
It's not like it is going to change that she is pregnate. I think it is more shame
that their daughter is going to have a baby then anything else. WTF is she
going to do? her parents should be hung by a tree, shot, run over, or something. The father should take some responsibility for getting her
pregnate in the first place... killa....
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Postby Krieg » Tue Jul 25, 06 10:11 am

pregnant womens got soooo fucking much hormones at that time , more than a normal women could ever produce in 137 years !!
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Postby Killa » Tue Jul 25, 06 2:41 pm

yeah thats true...she got caught before too and her parents had her on lockdown when i was going out with here, i couldnt even go to the movies without her brother or mom going....her parents did try hard...cant stop what happens when there at school tho
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