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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 6:28 pm

Small things can lead to bigger conflicts.

Especially when there's only about 2-3 Americans on a forum, and 19-21 Brits.
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Postby Snakey » Tue Sep 05, 06 6:30 pm

Leaving 769 people unaccounted for, yes?
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 6:31 pm

Snakey wrote:Leaving 769 people unaccounted for, yes?


I just made a prediction.
Are you going to tell me that UK predictions are better than US ones now?
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Postby Kaiden » Tue Sep 05, 06 6:35 pm

DarkKnight wrote:
§ KÃÎÐEN § wrote:My brother downloaded a FamilyGuy series from somewhere, watched them all now though. Spider I hope you realise this argument is your fault :)

You have a gay interface colour. Carry on.


Actually, it's Derek's for not being able to spell correctly.


If he hadn't mentioned colours then this arguement wouldn't of started :)..

Are you going to tell me that UK predictions are better than US ones now?


Heh it sounds like your trying to start arguemnts lol.
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 6:38 pm

I probably am.
Tomorrow I'll get a whopping of UK people telling me how pathetic I am/Stevie telling me how US is shit, more blah blah bullcrap, I hope my comp starts tomorrow however, weird problems with it lately :S

I can't be arsed anymore, but I really don't care if it's every UK poster against only me. I keep my opinion, regardless of how many people I'm debating against.

Edit:

It's getting kind of old now.

DK - makes more sarcastic comments, links to articles etc.
Snakey - makes stinging comments that appear to be clever in his eyes
Wasted - acts like a usual idiot
Lazer - acts like a typical diehard UK fan, insults US and claims UK is the best

Most who are neutral, as Lazer put it, side with the UK as well. :\
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Postby Kaiden » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:11 pm

I dont really take sides, I like the UK because I live here, but I can't openlly insult America because I have never been their. ( Sorry if you feel that I have insulted, it wasn't intentional. )

Most who are neutral, as Lazer put it, side with the UK as well. :\


Maybe thats because they know more people in UK than US or the have been to one place and not the other.
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:14 pm

It just goes to show;

The minority is always gangraped in a debate.
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:15 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
Snakey wrote:Leaving 769 people unaccounted for, yes?


Are you going to tell me that UK predictions are better than US ones now?
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Yes, yes we are.
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:17 pm

I'm starting to wonder if that idiot Bush gave us this bad reputation, or was it more of a overall hatred for the US....
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Postby Kaiden » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:37 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:I'm starting to wonder if that idiot Bush gave us this bad reputation, or was it more of a overall hatred for the US....



Partly I expect, but something I don't like is how some Americans can counter there actions with the words "Its my right as an American Citizen"
(Not everyone says that mind, or even alot of people :) )
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:41 pm

I still have my freedoms, regardless of how much Bush butchered it.
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:46 pm

3rd world countries have freedom, look what happened to them.
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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 05, 06 7:47 pm

Antechrist wrote:3rd world countries have freedom, look what happened to them.


Corpsegrinder came to their lands and raped their women!
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Tue Sep 05, 06 8:22 pm

lmao With a barbed wire fuck stick... Must remember Derka, that story in our convo didn't actually happen, or else the Israel war would be over lol
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Postby DarkKnight » Tue Sep 05, 06 8:43 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
Isn't that exactly what you're doing with the UK?


I even admitted to liking some UK comedy, while every limey here doesn't appreciate anything that is American!


Ever think that perhaps they are being honest? I love the fact that if they don't agree with you, they are being Pro-UK'ish and thus lying!

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Shh Snakey.

He's hoping no one realised.


You're Australian, so why are you even in this argument?


Because even Australia can spell colour correctly. Seriously though, if you don't want slanted attacks on US, formulate an argument without slanted UK attacks.
(English teacher memory: 'You can't start a sentence with Because!' 'Why not?' 'Because!......er')

Dez wrote:
- British comedy is FAR better than American comedy. All american comedy is the same, with the same type of families. scenarios, all patriotic and whatever. British comedy is far more varied, and if you've only seen Monty Python I suggest you actually watch some British comedy shows. And yeah, Americans don't understand our comedy at all because you're all used to the same tired safe jokes.


That is 100% incorrect. American comedy isn't the same, there are more variants to comedy than you think! You'd have to watch every American comedy to actually say that they are all the same, not two or 3!


I am yet to see a single new American comedy that has a good story/fresh jokes.

And no, watching a phool jump off things and hitting the ground is not comedy, it's a phool jumping off things and hitting the ground.

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British fairies? Wtf? I don't know anyone that sounds like a fairy? You DO know that British characters on American shows are played up to the American's perceptions simply to please you lot? If you came to the UK you'd see that most guys would be able to kick your arse easily. If the only accents you've heard are cockney and manchurian you've got a lot to learn.


Is that a fancy way of telling me that British people are generally better than American people? What happened to equality?


You are reading very far, and perhaps too far into words to find a hidden anti-US theme to any response.

Dez wrote:
Also, we don't all drink tea obessively, we don't ride around in black cabs or double decker red buses, we don't have bad teeth, we don't all wear bowler hats and carry umbrellas, we don't all personally know the Queen, no one sounds like a fairy!?, and our spelling is correct over yours. Ner Ner


I say our spelling is correct over yours. We could do this all day and long, and unlike Lazer who thinks UK is superior to America, I won't even get tired of it.


And you would be incorrect. In dead locks such as these, we must turn to facts. You remember them, right? :]

English is the language spoken in its home country of England. America is has no way of making a 'more correct' way of spelling an English word. It only has bastardisation, or, as more people would call it, adaptation. You can adapt the word to your liking, but you will still be wrong.

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I agree with American stereotyping though.. coz its true. I've been to America twice and all I saw was drunken hobos wandering in the road, really really HUGE people, MaccyD's on every bloody street, girl after girl goin "Like, OMG!!" and a zillion all-you-can-eat places.


Why would they call it stereotyping if it were true? It's not true at all. There's no one obese or overweight in my neighborhood, there's no drunken hobos at all here, the nearest MaccyD's is probably about 15 miles from here. Seriously, have you been to every place in America? If that's true and that's what you saw, then you are right.
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Have you been to every place in the UK?

And he calls UK people fairies. :roll:

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No it isn't. The same for US. And if you try saying "Omg never said it was!!11" I should tell you, nor did he.


No country's perfect, but they think so, and they start picking on US because we are the popular ones to pick on, not Zimbabwe with diseases, not China with overpopulation, no, US with that idiot in the government!


Here I was just thinking it was a simple matter of English > American English and UK comedy > US comedy... But hey, it must all be an anti-US argument because you are out numbered!

Dez wrote:You'll see that it is usually never the same, and if you ask a brit about American comedy, they'll say "zomg its the most typical, boringest shit ever" and vice versa with America. We all have our comedy tastes, we all have our country preference. Everybody's pointing the finger at US for having bad comedy, bad looks, bad people, bad politics. Tell me, if "everything" is so bad, why is there more people living here? Or are we all just that stupid?

I live in the US, and I'm proud of it. Anybody can call me a yank, anybody can offend me about how fat my mom is, or how I go to MaccyDs, but I'll still be living in it, and no matter how much of a shithole you think the US is, I'll never move anywhere else.


You've talked to everyone in the UK?

Seriously though, you are being a 'typical American' by not admitting that maybe, just maybe, these people here might be telling you the truth, with an unbiased mind.

But yeah no, we all clearly hate America to the core, watch far too much anti-American propaganda, and simply think you are 300 pound and are eating MacDonalds while reading this. Not only that, but all this stems from the fact that America won it's freedom from the British empire. Or is it because we are jealous of you? The reasoning's are so many, I loose track.

Having said that, it won't be hard to find an American that thinks Monty Python > All. It's an ace movie, and quite frankly you can't be expected to be taken seriously in this debate if you didn't 'get it'.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 06, 06 3:43 am

Ever think that perhaps they are being honest? I love the fact that if they don't agree with you, they are being Pro-UK'ish and thus lying!


Where did I say that now? No, they just don't like anything about the US, and I can respect that, but when they start saying how their country is better than mine, that's when I step in.

Because even Australia can spell colour correctly. Seriously though, if you don't want slanted attacks on US, formulate an argument without slanted UK attacks.
(English teacher memory: 'You can't start a sentence with Because!' 'Why not?' 'Because!......er')


This whole argument started with you telling me how color is spelled incorrectly; mind you, I was using sarcasm, but typical Stevie takes it too far!

I am yet to see a single new American comedy that has a good story/fresh jokes.


Red Dwarf aside, I am yet to see a single new British comedy that actually makes sense and has good jokes.

And no, watching a phool jump off things and hitting the ground is not comedy, it's a phool jumping off things and hitting the ground.


It's comedy to me, and fairly amusing :lol:

You are reading very far, and perhaps too far into words to find a hidden anti-US theme to any response.


Or you are being very ignorant and aren't reading between the fucking lines.

And you would be incorrect. In dead locks such as these, we must turn to facts. You remember them, right? :]


No, I would be correct.
Go ahead, let's keep talking about how correct you are, how incorrect I am. We prefer to spell it color, and if we don't spell it just like the Queen does, it's called a bastardized version? Did you actually pay attention to anything just now?

English is the language spoken in its home country of England. America is has no way of making a 'more correct' way of spelling an English word. It only has bastardisation, or, as more people would call it, adaptation. You can adapt the word to your liking, but you will still be wrong.


Neither does England for forcing it on us to make every word spelled like theirs. I won't be wrong simply because I prefer to take out a "u"; it's the country's preferences, and you in no way can say they are wrong or are stupid.

Have you been to every place in the UK?

And he calls UK people fairies.


Most people base Americans on the stereotypes they hear from their friends over at the so-called "pub", I thought they might get a taste of their own medicine. Plus, the accent's just too hilarious xD.

Here I was just thinking it was a simple matter of English > American English and UK comedy > US comedy... But hey, it must all be an anti-US argument because you are out numbered!


Even after our debate, you still can't see what I'm trying to say? I'm using the government as an example -- hell not even an example, more like that everybody thinks we are inferior to them simply because we don't have a better government, what about Somalia, I'm sure they have a lot of decent comedy! I thought it was easy for you to understand, but like you said: "you're getting dim in your old age".
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You've talked to everyone in the UK?

Seriously though, you are being a 'typical American' by not admitting that maybe, just maybe, these people here might be telling you the truth, with an unbiased mind.


No I did not, but saying such things as "american stereotypes are true" is just too damn ignorant and blind to be considered an actual fact. Unbiased mind? Do you actually hear yourself talk about these things?

I prefer US comedy over UK comedy. UK has some good comedy, but US comedy for me is better because I come from the US and it's very easy to understand.

-My opinion

I prefer UK comedy because US comedy is absolute shit! It sucks ass and it's boring!

-Lazer, Chococat and ... probably everyone else here.

Let's see you take those two into consideration.

But yeah no, we all clearly hate America to the core, watch far too much anti-American propaganda, and simply think you are 300 pound and are eating MacDonalds while reading this. Not only that, but all this stems from the fact that America won it's freedom from the British empire. Or is it because we are jealous of you? The reasoning's are so many, I loose track.


I'm just going to ignore that, sarcasm's no good in an argument with you, seeing as how you forgot your manual on how to use it properly.

aving said that, it won't be hard to find an American that thinks Monty Python > All. It's an ace movie, and quite frankly you can't be expected to be taken seriously in this debate if you didn't 'get it'.


I don't 'get it', some jokes were funny and some were just plain ... stupid. I only laughed at the fancy accents, not at the jokes themselves. Just because I didn't get it, it means that "i'm not going to be taken seriously"? Yeah Stevie, the UK side on this debate is really unbiased.
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Postby VodunLoas » Wed Sep 06, 06 4:54 am

I think it's funny how the English sound different from Americans when they talk, but when they sing, we sound more alike. :)
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 06, 06 6:48 am

That is weird.

o_O.
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Wed Sep 06, 06 10:30 am

The entire world laugh the same too :? SOME SECRET ALIEN LANGUAGE I SAY!

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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 06, 06 12:37 pm

Antechrist wrote:The entire world laugh the same too :? SOME SECRET ALIEN LANGUAGE I SAY!

Al-Qaeda Video Orders Americans to Convert to Islam - [09/ 3/06]


Riot In Soccer Field; 42 Dead Because Britain Lost a Match.
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Wed Sep 06, 06 12:39 pm

If Britain was a football team...
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 06, 06 12:42 pm

England lost a match against Italy.

I don't like calling it England. UK or Britland for me.
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Wed Sep 06, 06 12:52 pm

Totally different things.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 06, 06 12:53 pm

If I cared enough about the country, I would find that information useful. 8)
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Wed Sep 06, 06 5:14 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:If I cared enough about the countries, I would find that information useful. 8)
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Postby DarkKnight » Wed Sep 06, 06 5:30 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
Ever think that perhaps they are being honest? I love the fact that if they don't agree with you, they are being Pro-UK'ish and thus lying!


Where did I say that now? No, they just don't like anything about the US, and I can respect that, but when they start saying how their country is better than mine, that's when I step in.


And you know nothing about the UK, but it's OK for you to comment? Pfft, please.

And please, where did anyone say "UK IS TEH BETTERS!". This is a simple debate about the fact that American English is not correct, and that the UK has better comedy.

You are making this a UK vs US topic. :roll:

Dez wrote:
Because even Australia can spell colour correctly. Seriously though, if you don't want slanted attacks on US, formulate an argument without slanted UK attacks.
(English teacher memory: 'You can't start a sentence with Because!' 'Why not?' 'Because!......er')


This whole argument started with you telling me how color is spelled incorrectly; mind you, I was using sarcasm, but typical Stevie takes it too far!


I took it to far?

It takes two to tango, [sarcasm]and we still have 3 more steps left.[/sarcasm]

Dez wrote:
I am yet to see a single new American comedy that has a good story/fresh jokes.


Red Dwarf aside, I am yet to see a single new British comedy that actually makes sense and has good jokes.


Lol. Monty Python doesn't make sense so it must suck... That's like saying "I don't understand how planes fly, so they don't".

Dez wrote:
And no, watching a phool jump off things and hitting the ground is not comedy, it's a phool jumping off things and hitting the ground.


It's comedy to me, and fairly amusing :lol:


And there in lies the problem, ;)

Dez wrote:
You are reading very far, and perhaps too far into words to find a hidden anti-US theme to any response.


Or you are being very ignorant and aren't reading between the fucking lines.


[sarcasm]Right, I'm sorry. #-o

We're disagreeing with you, and because we aren't from the US, that means our hidden agenda is to attack the US at every corner.

Gotcha. :gj: [/sarcasm]

Dez wrote:
And you would be incorrect. In dead locks such as these, we must turn to facts. You remember them, right? :]


No, I would be correct.
Go ahead, let's keep talking about how correct you are, how incorrect I am. We prefer to spell it color, and if we don't spell it just like the Queen does, it's called a bastardized version? Did you actually pay attention to anything just now?


Lol @ rage.

[sarcasm]But yeah, I must have been looking at the cat, silly me.[/sarcasm]

Dez wrote:
English is the language spoken in its home country of England. America is has no way of making a 'more correct' way of spelling an English word. It only has bastardisation, or, as more people would call it, adaptation. You can adapt the word to your liking, but you will still be wrong.


Neither does England for forcing it on us to make every word spelled like theirs. I won't be wrong simply because I prefer to take out a "u"; it's the country's preferences, and you in no way can say they are wrong or are stupid.


No, you would be wrong. This topic exists to answer the simple question; Which is correct, or if both are correct, which is more correct. The simple answer is, England.

The complex answer is that due to the fact America was founded by the United Kingdom and it's language is a direct re-write of the English language, England is more correct.

You simply can not win this argument, and I think you realise that. Hence why this topic has a whole lot of political bullshit to try and fudge the fact.

Dez wrote:
Have you been to every place in the UK?

And he calls UK people fairies.


Most people base Americans on the stereotypes they hear from their friends over at the so-called "pub", I thought they might get a taste of their own medicine. Plus, the accent's just too hilarious xD.


Uhh... right.

Besides you, who is using large stereotyping?

Dez wrote:
Here I was just thinking it was a simple matter of English > American English and UK comedy > US comedy... But hey, it must all be an anti-US argument because you are out numbered!


Even after our debate, you still can't see what I'm trying to say? I'm using the government as an example -- hell not even an example, more like that everybody thinks we are inferior to them simply because we don't have a better government, what about Somalia, I'm sure they have a lot of decent comedy! I thought it was easy for you to understand, but like you said: "you're getting dim in your old age".
:roll:


[sarcasm]How old are you again? :-s[/sarcasm]

No one but you brought the subject of US > <any other/> into this topic. You have assumed incorrectly that it is on everyone's mind. And generally, you are being paranoid, lol.

And you're doing it again. You are implying that the people that have already posted are saying UK comedy > US comedy simply because they don't like the US.

Bombshell: I am a great fan of M*A*S*H and Hogan's Hero's. I'm sure you're quite capable of wikipedia'ing them to find out where they were made, although I doubt that will be needed.

Do you know what I base my choice off? It is quite simple, actually. "If I had to watch two weeks non-stop of a countries comedy, which would I choose?". The implication there is that we're talking about a wide variety, not just a few good re-runs of shows that were made decades ago.

When it comes down to it, I couldn't sit through a week of non-stop US comedy and would gladly give up M*A*S*H and Hogan's Hero's. And that is what makes me say UK comedy> US comedy. Pretty simple eh?

Dez wrote:
You've talked to everyone in the UK?

Seriously though, you are being a 'typical American' by not admitting that maybe, just maybe, these people here might be telling you the truth, with an unbiased mind.


No I did not, but saying such things as "american stereotypes are true" is just too damn ignorant and blind to be considered an actual fact. Unbiased mind? Do you actually hear yourself talk about these things?


Seriously, you need to chill, read, and think.

Wether or not the Stereotype is true is irrelevant, you are conducting your self in a manner that matches that stereotype.

You have basically implied that everyone here is lying to further their anti-American feelings. [sarcasm]Forgive me for my arrogance, but[/sarcasm] I think that's bullshit and you should stop smoking what ever it is you're smoking. We're talking about comedy and language and you're bringing in the fact that everyone hates the US.

Dez wrote:I prefer US comedy over UK comedy. UK has some good comedy, but US comedy for me is better because I come from the US and it's very easy to understand.

-My opinion

I prefer UK comedy because US comedy is absolute shit! It sucks ass and it's boring!

-Lazer, Chococat and ... probably everyone else here.

Let's see you take those two into consideration.


Just, Lol.

I don't actually see any difference in either of those two statements. [sarcasm]Queer no?[/sarcasm]

You have jumped the gun again and have read far too much into the comment. Sure, a hell of a lot of comedy coming out of the US is utter shit that should be axed before it's ever put on, and the UK has some of that too. (Although I do admit, none spring to mind....)

The lack of them giving due credit does not mean there is no due credit.

IIRC, Chococat use to be a big friends and Malcom in the middle fan. (Operative word; use, current status unknown.)

I'm very sure if you ask Lazer, he can give you a US comedy he likes/doesn't mind.

And I've already given you two.

You want it to be biased.

Dez wrote:
But yeah no, we all clearly hate America to the core, watch far too much anti-American propaganda, and simply think you are 300 pound and are eating MacDonalds while reading this. Not only that, but all this stems from the fact that America won it's freedom from the British empire. Or is it because we are jealous of you? The reasoning's are so many, I loose track.


I'm just going to ignore that, sarcasm's no good in an argument with you, seeing as how you forgot your manual on how to use it properly.


[sarcasm]I'm sorry, is there now a 'better because it's American' way of using sarcasm? #-o [/sarcasm]

In light of this, I have gone over my post and added sarcasm tags to aid you. You can feel free to reply to or ignore the area's surrounded by the [sarcasm] tags. I was actually surprised by the lack of tags placed, as I usually take a healthy dose of sarcasm into any debate with you. :lol:

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Having said that, it won't be hard to find an American that thinks Monty Python > All. It's an ace movie, and quite frankly you can't be expected to be taken seriously in this debate if you didn't 'get it'.


I don't 'get it', some jokes were funny and some were just plain ... stupid. I only laughed at the fancy accents, not at the jokes themselves. Just because I didn't get it, it means that "i'm not going to be taken seriously"? Yeah Stevie, the UK side on this debate is really unbiased.


UK comedy is not skin deep, it never has been.

The entire movie is a joke. I could go further into it, but explaining a joke to someone ruins it for ever... Suffice to say there are different levels at which it's funny. Try to think you're watching a Mel Brooks film, only more subtle and articulated.

Lol mosh.
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Postby Dae » Wed Sep 06, 06 5:38 pm

Uh, this topic contains the most longest posts in the history of [A] forum.

The only thing I can add is that I noticed sometime ago that humor in English comedies is too plain and banal, so it's barely funny for me.
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Postby Fatman » Wed Sep 06, 06 8:36 pm

Lets Face it
UK Comedy Is made for people in the UK
And US Comedy is made for people in the US
And Sure the English did for come the UK, But the way the US lets people though its border slowly changes the language, American English is a small combinations all the languages that its people speak, so there are noticeable difference between English and what we speak in American.
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Postby Bob » Wed Sep 06, 06 8:55 pm

Derek wrote:Lazer - acts like a typical diehard UK fan, insults US and claims UK is the best


I loved that comment.

A diehard UK fan. Awesome.
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Postby Zantinzuken » Wed Sep 06, 06 9:05 pm

[A]Lazer? 0_o

Some application I missed?
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