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DXAG

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 4:27 pm
by ~[R2K]D-BLOCK~
I was wondering can you host DXAG again?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 4:58 pm
by Kaiden
Yes, you can. :D

And I think you forgot the Please/Thanks from that post!

The trouble is, no-one can host it 24/7, and no-one really wants to pay for a server. :cry:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 5:17 pm
by ~[R2K]D-BLOCK~
Can Dejavu host it? :oops: *Dont want any trouble*

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 5:20 pm
by Allan
I think he's still uptight about his augs v 0-augs thing, but I guess it's worth a shot. I'm sure he as well as anyone else would be willing to repent for his wrong-doings. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 5:26 pm
by ~[R2K]D-BLOCK~
Ya he said you guyz wouldnt let him so he didn't host it. :(

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 6:30 pm
by [FGS]ShadowRunner
I think you will find that FREE hosting is only for classic DXMP augged gametype... definitely there is a technical objection on Deja's part to DXSG on account of the superweapons using "too much" cpu and DXSG won't ever be hosted free on a Slovenian uni server.

I would say DXAG is worth a shot with Deja, but some ppl round here aren't exactly trying to reconcile with him, so that doesn't help matters at all. I think there is a strong case for him hosting DXAG because it is a nice way to introduce augmentations and teach people about particular augs. Also, unlike the DXSG team, the DXAG team have managed to complete new maps, so therefore DXAG is far more likely to win a chance. I got my server for two reasons, I agreed to host classic augged DXMP and I worked very hard and produced 13 maps and offered space to other mappers, which currently includes Dae and Ste and possibly Magus and Max when they gets around to it and Jon, if he fixes the ladders or makes another map with repairbots.

The current situation of guests on party/funline servers coming to servers he hosts, and gepping their team, every time said server gets busier than theirs does not help either. Banning me off Dogny's was just stupid. To be frank, very few of you are giving him any reason to deal with you at all. Remember I was one of the strongest opponents of DejaVu, but I've learned we need to work with each to keep DXMP attractive to new players.

One thing is for sure. 0-aug servers like Sunny Side, DXMS and XPS are not the problem, there is a quality to the maps and admins there. I know for sure that Deja would rather see DXAG up high in the server list, than some crappy, laggy, newb admin server where unarmed beginners are being killed by ppl with weps. People putting up temporary servers, usually clan servers, with every clan member logged in as admin, with maps that are ancient or too newb for the top of the list, is not going to help DXMP either...

It's up to you as a community... go figure.
And Kaiden, you are wrong, if at least one [A] member is willing to pay for DXAG/DXSG, then I and others will contribute too... I'd be glad too...Just whoever you are, stop bitching my server and causing shit there, then u will find Deja is more willing to deal with people that "hate" him...

PS dis iz buziness, you dont have to like, forgive or be friends with auggers, but we share the same goals...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 6:46 pm
by Kaiden
Exactly.. "Willing to pay" why would someone spend money on a server that will not become popular for some weeks after the hosting (As was the case when DXAG/SG was first hosted).

But, how much are you talking about for a 24/7 server for several months? (£ please).

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 8:21 pm
by ~[R2K]D-BLOCK~
I hosted DXAG for two weeks and most of the time i had a full server. I didnt want to host it cause, I had an advantage over others with ping. Most of the time i played as Medic. :D So i ask if somebody else could they host it. I loved DXAG when it was up. When it was up i remember having to wait for somebody to leave to play it. I would like to see it up again. Thats why i asked and i had it for my server. To see how players react to it. Most players didnt play it before. Their reply is, that they like it to. This is one of the best mods and the game shows teamwork. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 07 10:29 pm
by Dejavu
yo niggas.

uhm, if i remember correctly, i wanted to host DXAG once but i was refused by nobody (i think so) and i didnt get the files...

DXAG is besides palmtreesCTF mode one of the best dxmp mods made in my opinion.

ill put on a 24 slot DXAG server under 2 conditions:
- the newest version
- the source (i wanna see it, make it public or give it just to me)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:46 am
by ~ô¿ô~Nobody~
1. granted
2. No.

Also, nigga, I sent you the files, the server was up but you closed it again.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:58 am
by James
I'm sorry me, but I don't think many people would even trust us with the SAUCE files.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:58 am
by [FGS]ShadowRunner
Yeah XPS, exactly the point, it requires teamwork... but a lone wolf can also own the game...
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It was like Jonesy said, they dominated the terrain, but I ownt them... 1 v 6 for the whole game, nice ping but 10 fps. I like DXAG for the teamwork, the classes and also Mainman's map Landenau is just about the best ever player-made map I saw.

Well I can understand why server hoster wants to see source, I can also understand why clan said no... ther u have it.

The thing about DXAG that players do to it? Do you remember, everyone switches teams in the last 5 minutes to the winning team...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 1:02 am
by ~ô¿ô~Nobody~
If it was a server hoster, I'd possibly think about giving the souce, but in Dejavu's case that's chanceless.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 1:38 am
by ~[R2K]D-BLOCK~
This community is to seperated. The game isn't doing well. We need to stick together, share ideas and items. Learn from each other. Not hide from others. How can we improve? Without others knowing our work. :?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:23 am
by Ste
I think that nothing is free, If say 4-6 of you pay towards a server its not gonna be expensive like 5 euro each per month.

I also would like to say that even though im a augger i feel FGS is a wicked server and ive always got time for shadowrunner, thx for hosting my map xD. Got some great maps on that server most enjoyable. DXAG was super popular and for me i didnt like it, it changed dx too much. BUT with that said the server was uber popular so thats good too.

I will have a look at my current bandwidth usage and see if i can help out on my box. Theres a few servers i run which dont get used.

Im not promising but theres a fair chance i might be able to help out with a server 14-16 slots.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 4:45 am
by [FGS]ShadowRunner
Good point about sharing XPS...if only everyone held that view. Some ppl are generous, e,g, dxms share knowledge etc... and some ppl are newbs and will steal bodies and biocells... It's why I offer to host other mappers...

I think Ste is right, between 10 ppl it would be truly peanuts...

*wonders why dej wants to see source, wonders why Nob doesnt want to show*

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 8:04 am
by Alex
~[XPS]Sheek_Louch~ wrote:This community is to seperated. The game isn't doing well. We need to stick together, share ideas and items. Learn from each other. Not hide from others. How can we improve? Without others knowing our work. :?

When we keep our coding hidden, it stays unique. Sure, we do share some sources, I recently shared a source of one of my mods, but in a private forum, which can only be accessed by certain people.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 11:00 am
by Imperial
Dejavu wrote:yo Nigra.

uhm, if i remember correctly, i wanted to host DXAG once but i was refused by nobody (i think so) and i didnt get the files...

DXAG is besides palmtreesCTF mode one of the best dxmp mods made in my opinion.

ill put on a 24 slot DXAG server under 2 conditions:
- the newest version
- the source (i wanna see it, make it public or give it just to me)


the source? lol. You can't make a demand for requesting the source of the mod, as if you were the only one who could host a 24/7 server.

How willing would you be to share all of your work? Not much I'd doubht.
Why exactly do you want to see the source?

Ste wrote:I think that nothing is free, If say 4-6 of you pay towards a server its not gonna be expensive like 5 euro each per month.

I also would like to say that even though im a augger i feel FGS is a wicked server and ive always got time for shadowrunner, thx for hosting my map xD. Got some great maps on that server most enjoyable. DXAG was super popular and for me i didnt like it, it changed dx too much. BUT with that said the server was uber popular so thats good too.

I will have a look at my current bandwidth usage and see if i can help out on my box. Theres a few servers i run which dont get used.

Im not promising but theres a fair chance i might be able to help out with a server 14-16 slots.


And I'd disagree. The rates of a Gd server are costly enough and even more for a GM one. If 4 player split the cost between them for a high enough gm slot it would be about 12 euro per paying contributor, while brining a good server.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:16 pm
by Dejavu
Imperial: i share all my work, there are some public sources and others you can ask for and you will get. whats most important, i dont and i never will protect mods, cos i think thats so F.CKING LAME.

to whole community, hidding sources means nothing. there are maybe few possible coders that would show their talent when seeing some popular mods inside, firstly mod them a little, then a bit more until start making their own mods. but in dxmp, only rare, mostly old mods do have source code with.

what i think about you nobody is this: you still have MM source code... but you wouldnt give it to anyone (except A of course), bcos then if theres one smart ass that changes "made by Nobody" into "made by XYZ", you would be so angry and whole your life would be destroyed, cos someone stealed your source!!! damn, thats so hard to live with. i wonder when you guys would grow up and realize that uc isnt worth a peace of shit! you cant even sell uc source, cos its owned by eidos. i said on FGS forums already, with this attitude, you are only working for your own asses. you are big EGOS, you care about your own reputation only, not for future well being of dxmp.

and nobody, i hosted you a 100mbit server for more than half a year, you promised to work on mm that time, and you freaking released only 2 versions in that time. you still owe me and the community A LOT.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:17 pm
by Alex
Where's the source of your MasterServer Dejavu?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:39 pm
by Imperial
Dejavu wrote:Imperial: i share all my work, there are some public sources and others you can ask for and you will get. whats most important, i dont and i never will protect mods, cos i think thats so F.CKING LAME.

to whole community, hidding sources means nothing. there are maybe few possible coders that would show their talent when seeing some popular mods inside, firstly mod them a little, then a bit more until start making their own mods. but in dxmp, only rare, mostly old mods do have source code with.

what i think about you nobody is this: you still have MM source code... but you wouldnt give it to anyone (except A of course), bcos then if theres one smart ass that changes "made by Nobody" into "made by XYZ", you would be so angry and whole your life would be destroyed, cos someone stealed your source!!! damn, thats so hard to live with. i wonder when you guys would grow up and realize that uc isnt worth a peace of shit! you cant even sell uc source, cos its owned by eidos. i said on FGS forums already, with this attitude, you are only working for your own asses. you are big EGOS, you care about your own reputation only, not for future well being of dxmp.

and nobody, i hosted you a 100mbit server for more than half a year, you promised to work on mm that time, and you freaking released only 2 versions in that time. you still owe me and the community A LOT.


Speaking of owing the community...

For Gods Sake, did you not see the state of the community a few months ago? There was 4 servers up, 4

I'd like to think you owe the community quite a bit

Release all sources for your mods and ms then Dejavu.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 12:57 pm
by Dae
Dejavu wrote:you are only working for your own asses. you are big EGOS

Is it surpising for you? Do you still naively believe in good and evil, heaven and hell? All sound minded people are absolutely selfish and they first think about themselves rather than the rest. You're no exception dude.

Dejavu wrote:you still owe me and the community A LOT.

lol no he doesn't

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 1:17 pm
by Imperial
perhaps he's confusing Nobody's character and actions with his own?

That would seem right. (p.s thanks for banning from your server on the word of your little puppy Sike, the reason is quite ridicolous, guess it jsut puts you in the books of yet another bad admin)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 1:53 pm
by ~ô¿ô~Nobody~
Dejavu wrote:what i think about you nobody is this: you still have MM source code...

I deleted the source as result of your endless arrogance and your attacks.

Dejavu wrote:but you wouldnt give it to anyone (except A of course), bcos then if theres one smart ass that changes "made by Nobody" into "made by XYZ", you would be so angry and whole your life would be destroyed, cos someone stealed your source!!!

I would probably release it, but as I said, I deleted it.
Fortunately, my life is not effected by that.

Dejavu wrote:damn, thats so hard to live with. i wonder when you guys would grow up and realize that uc isnt worth a peace of shit!

Wrong, since coders take time and effort to write some.
The value of something is not always related to money, perhaps you'll learn that some time.


Dejavu wrote: you cant even sell uc source, cos its owned by eidos.

It cannot be sold, but it's definitely not owned by EIDOS because it's the coders intellectual property.

Dejavu wrote:i said on FGS forums already, with this attitude, you are only working for your own asses. you are big EGOS, you care about your own reputation only, not for future well being of dxmp.
You're fairly the LAST one who may make such a statement and pass judgement on us, after everything that happened.

Dejavu wrote:and nobody, i hosted you a 100mbit server for more than half a year, you promised to work on mm that time, and you freaking released only 2 versions in that time. you still owe me and the community A LOT.

By your selfish behavior towards to me and the community at the end of the last year, you equalized that more than enough.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:13 pm
by Dejavu
Alex wrote:Where's the source of your MasterServer Dejavu?


you want it? come to msn and we will make a deal.

nobody: what would be your answer if i told you that 1 year ago?

imperial: you are not a beginner

dae: thanks for making funline maps, go take a look how many servers host it and when you go to these servers, you see admin abuse, and everything else besides proper fighting. this is even worse than 0aug tbh.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:16 pm
by [ß]Lost
-[JTB]-Imperial wrote:perhaps he's confusing Nobody's character and actions with his own?

That would seem right. (p.s thanks for banning from your server on the word of your little puppy Sike, the reason is quite ridicolous, guess it jsut puts you in the books of yet another bad admin)


Cool, I'm un-banned :D

Imperial, ur not a beginner because u rape new players too hardcore. U deserved to be banned, gg.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:17 pm
by [ß]Lost
wtf suprise sex?! i said r a p e

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:25 pm
by Imperial
lol what do you call Sike Dejavu? He is not a begineer either.

Bitch would be fitting as I understand it

Sike got kicked numerous times by your mod, now either that needs extensive redevelopment, or Sike was just "too good"

ANd besides, after being bored by Sikes winy voice I left and came back this morning when I found there was not begineers but decent enough auggers.

Set up a btdm then

you want it? come to msn and we will make a deal.

That senetence speaks for itself.. deal being the keyword.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:30 pm
by [ß]Lost
Did I rape beginners? No, I didn't. I raped people like u and khamilus who don't belong to beginners server. All u guys did was rape new players. Too bad, khamilus has dynamic ip...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 07 2:31 pm
by [ß]Lost
wtf is up with suprise sex again :S