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Tinley Park Shootings

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 08 10:47 pm
by clyzm
If you haven't read the news, I recommend you take a look before proceeding.

Tinley Park is actually very close to where I live, about a 10 minute drive. The place is usually quiet and peaceful, I've been to it many times and actually have a few friends who live there as well as job associates.

Now, Lane Bryant is a quiet store, especially in the mornings. Its clothes are generally aimed at women, usually mature. Thing is, the perpetrator picked the right time and right spot to do this crime.

Apparently it was a "robbery gone bad." I disagree, because you don't go to a store, have 5 women line up Nazi execution-style, shoot them in the neck, then leave without taking any money.

Which leaves me to question his purpose. This rant is not aimed at perpetrators in general, but perpetrators without any purpose and without necessity to kill but they do it anyways. Why would one just walk into a store, murder a few people, then walk out with no one knowing until an hour later?

It is a really pointless thing, which makes me question: perhaps he did it for himself, or maybe he has something race-involved (but two of the women were African American, so that rules it out.) Cult initiation? Revenge? Or just for the hell of it?

I can't really find a solution.

He has not been found yet, but there was one survivor who described him to the police.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 08 10:56 pm
by Cyrus
I stayed in Tinley park! :shock: :shock: When I was there it was so calm!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 2:22 am
by James
In short, its selfish self-destruction. Things not going your way and you're in insanity?, go kill a few people and pretend everything is okay.

Its stealing of the highest form, anyone who kills innocents like that for no reason or gain what to ever deserve to die themselves slowly.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 10:57 am
by Siva
There are some fucked up people man.

And until you get inside their heads and really find out what makes them do what they do, everything and anything is speculation.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 11:33 am
by {E.D.H}{FPS}HDD21
Here in UK murdurers get like 5 years in jail! :shock:

theres salot of fucked up people out there. any mudurers should get death row. they dont do it in uk/

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 11:45 am
by ~UnwAnteD~
I feel sorry for these women, but if your country insists on the continued freedom to carry firearms then this will happen again and again.

Ye sure we have nutters in the UK, but they send sherbert in the post to lawyers saying its anthrax. Carrying guns is plain dumb, here you would be given a 5 year prison sentence just for the possesion of one!

And Maxtor01, I can assure you that if you murdered someone here in the UK, you might find yourself in high security prison for a lot longer than 5 years!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 12:09 pm
by NightRaver
maxtor01 wrote:Here in UK murdurers get like 5 years in jail! :shock:

theres salot of fucked up people out there. any mudurers should get death row. they dont do it in uk/


murder = at least 1 lifetime jail here...

Belgium lifetime = 25 year

they mostly give out 2x lifetime to a murderer.

they should give those the chair.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 2:00 pm
by ~UnwAnteD~
Death sentence is an easy way out. 50 years in Strangeways High security prison (manchester) is far worse a sentence than death, believe me.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 2:19 pm
by Siva
maxtor01 wrote:Here in UK murdurers get like 5 years in jail! :shock:

theres salot of fucked up people out there. any mudurers should get death row. they dont do it in uk/


Murderers get 30 years (What they call life) I believe.

What about those that haven't actually done anything? Rare cases become statistics, statistics become demonstrations, demonstrations and other politicians bid to remove death row and you're back where you started.

Serial killers should get exported to a Foreign prison. Like Cuba. See how many crimes they commit after that.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 9:07 pm
by Baleout
If you have a death sentence for murderers, you have no negotiation powers. The perputrator will do anything to get away since nothing worse can happen to them. This leads to multiple murders etc. It's more important to save the lives of as many innocents as possible than to get "revenge" on a killer.
Also, if the criminal is insane etc., it could be a much worse fate to spend the rest of your life in prison than to be excecuted.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 08 9:24 pm
by ~ River ~
In Bolton HMS Prison its bad there too.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 08 12:55 am
by ~UnwAnteD~
Mike Bartley wrote:In Bolton HMS Prison its bad there too.


No way u live in bolton. Scary how close some DX players might actually live.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 08 3:40 am
by xProtocol Rain
You want "Death sentence"? Spend about 48 hours in a Panamanian jail.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 08 3:57 am
by clyzm
The ideology of the serial killer is something I cannot understand, nor will I want to. I am a firm believer in swift justice but this case just... baffles me.

I hope he gets caught. Someone with a sane mind cannot do that and just walk away like nothing happened, he will have to accept his consequences sooner or later. I hope he realizes the magnitude of his actions.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 08 9:58 pm
by Snakey
Theres no purpose to it, its just an expression of some kind of fatal flaw.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 1:36 am
by clyzm
And now what the hell, NIU just got shot up.

Illinois, wtf, dammit.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 3:28 am
by Kaiden
-=Enemy=- wrote:if your country insists on the continued freedom to carry firearms then this will happen again and again.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 3:47 am
by clyzm
~[A]Kaiden~ wrote:
-=Enemy=- wrote:if your country insists on the continued freedom to carry firearms then this will happen again and again.


The 2nd amendment is one of the greatest amendments ever, so shush.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The guy is fucked up but don't blame the gun.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 4:39 am
by Kaiden
If you say so, but you don't think crime rate would decrease if guns were made illegal?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 5:04 am
by clyzm
~[A]Kaiden~ wrote:If you say so, but you don't think crime rate would decrease if guns were made illegal?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


It would decrease crime for a while, but that doesn't stop people from using knives or other weapons, like in the UK.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 5:31 am
by Kaiden
Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!

Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.


Lol xD

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 6:09 am
by SnakeEater
all I have to say is YIKES! :shock:

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 11:40 am
by James
cataclyzm wrote:
~[A]Kaiden~ wrote:If you say so, but you don't think crime rate would decrease if guns were made illegal?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


It would decrease crime for a while, but that doesn't stop people from using knives or other weapons, like in the UK.


Its harder to cause mass murder with a knife though.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 1:40 pm
by Batchy
Unless you had a knife launcher

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 6:24 pm
by clyzm
Mass stabbing spree, COD4 style.

But on a serious note, the NIU shootings were messed up. Illinois is not being in a good light as of late.

If we allowed gun-carrying on campus for all students, imagine what would've happened at NIU:

Guy comes up on stage, takes out his shotgun, before he sees everyone in their seats stands up aiming their red-dot-laser-P90s and AK47s at him and tear him to shreds.

But then again eventually they will all shoot each other, college campus will turn into Shipment.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 08 8:45 pm
by Spiderbot01
Privatisation of the security services, thats what I say.

Pay for policing = superior policing.

Sure it also will incurr MASS corruption, but its a price to pay ;D

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 08 6:31 pm
by {E.D.H}{FPS}HDD21
No i would NEVER commit any crime of any kind!