How ATI has alienated me..

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What is your GPU?

Brand freakin' new ATI in Crossfire (or not in Crossfire)
3
14%
Fairly aged ATI
3
14%
Older than your mum, ATI
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Brand freakin' new NVIDIA in SLi (or not in SLi)
9
43%
Fairly aged NVIDIA
2
10%
Older than your mum, NVIDIA
2
10%
Excuse me but how the hell should I know?
2
10%
 
Total votes : 21

How ATI has alienated me..

Postby Tantalus » Tue Mar 25, 08 4:30 pm

Okay, after buying *the now defective* Dell XPS 410, I only had one choice of GPU: an ATI X1300 Pro. Now, I know that the card is crappy (it can't handle SimCity Societies (which sucks anyway (just a forewarning))). That's not the reason why I hate ATI. The main reason why is the drivers are the most unstable and dysfunctional I have ever come across. This isn't one separate eventuality, my previous Radeon 9200 sucked just as hard and was unstable six ways from Nevada.

Because of the crappy service ATI has offered; and the fact that I have a 30% of the Vista logo NOT displaying on the monitor (and three BSOD's caused by it already). Now I am swayed by NVIDIA and their 9600 GT.

Just posted to get it out of my system (literally) and if anyone feels offended by this post please persuade why I shouldn't move camps.
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Postby Tonnochi » Tue Mar 25, 08 5:35 pm

After the bad experience I had with the, get this, unannounced driver update by Windows for ATI cards (which a lot of other people had problems with), I won't be buying an ATI any time soon. Stick with my NVIDIA for now.
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Postby Tantalus » Tue Mar 25, 08 6:34 pm

In every benchmark I have seen, the high spec ATI card is usually in the lower segment; regardless of GDDR4 RAM and DirectX10.1.
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Postby Mastakilla » Tue Mar 25, 08 6:42 pm

Nvidia is the best.
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Postby Tantalus » Tue Mar 25, 08 6:57 pm

Come on, isn't there any rebuttal?
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Postby Mastakilla » Tue Mar 25, 08 7:23 pm

Yes, I'm sure there is.
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Postby CyberKill » Tue Mar 25, 08 7:36 pm

i got a brand new ATI on my New Toshiba Laptop =]
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Postby Alex » Tue Mar 25, 08 7:42 pm

MastaKilla wrote:Nvidia is the best.

Agreed.
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Postby Cyrus » Tue Mar 25, 08 8:25 pm

Alex wrote:
MastaKilla wrote:Nvidia is the best.

Agreed.


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Postby Kaiden » Tue Mar 25, 08 9:10 pm

Irish wrote:
Alex wrote:
MastaKilla wrote:Nvidia is the best.

Agreed.


+1. :D


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Postby James » Tue Mar 25, 08 10:08 pm

At a point, like 2 years ago ATI was certain to be better. But Nvidia are better now yes.
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Postby Zantinzuken » Wed Mar 26, 08 12:29 am

Yep nvidia kicking ass at the moment.
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Postby -TheSpecialist- » Wed Mar 26, 08 2:08 pm

Still running an X800, although I have yet to get new drivers since my reformat since I know the newer dricers are adding new overhead to my CPU which is just as old.

The current CFX with the 3870X2 seems to be showing the potential of the ATI brand in terms of power vs the new NV 9800GX2 solution. Plus it is cheaper.

But it's true that the current leader is NV with their 8800 GT which is a pretty good deal for $189 CDN.
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Postby Tantalus » Thu Mar 27, 08 10:24 pm

The new 9800 GX2 is 20% faster than the 8800 Ultra and can handle a TeraFLOP. Now tell me that that isn't immense (in a Jay-style way).

Hell, even the 9600 is 90% faster than its 8 series counterpart.

To put it metaphorically: ATI sprint up the progression ladder of technology, skipping steps and having various miss-fires. Whereas NVIDIA is a snail and takes it time, juicing old tech before jumping to say DirectX10.1 or GDDR5.
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Postby {17}Ales » Thu Mar 27, 08 11:43 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:ATI sprint up the progression ladder of technology, skipping steps and having various miss-fires. Whereas NVIDIA is a snail and takes it time, juicing old tech before jumping to say DirectX10.1 or GDDR5.

I agree with that!

I have actually recently bought a nvidia graphics card its "8600 GT 256mb DDR3" with a core clock of 540mhz for about £53.50 on amazon(I have been waiting for about 1.5 weeks now :( ) which I think is decent :D
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Postby Alex » Fri Mar 28, 08 8:12 am

{17}Ales wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:ATI sprint up the progression ladder of technology, skipping steps and having various miss-fires. Whereas NVIDIA is a snail and takes it time, juicing old tech before jumping to say DirectX10.1 or GDDR5.

I agree with that!

I have actually recently bought a nvidia graphics card its "8600 GT 256mb DDR3" with a core clock of 540mhz for about £53.50 on amazon(I have been waiting for about 1.5 weeks now :( ) which I think is decent :D

I have a similar card, 8600GT 512MB DDR3, runs Crysis just fine.
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Postby Tonnochi » Fri Mar 28, 08 8:37 am

It's funny how thats all anyone has to say to determine how good their computer is.
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Postby Alex » Fri Mar 28, 08 8:57 am

[FGS]Zeitgeist wrote:It's funny how thats all anyone has to say to determine how good their computer is.

It's all about performance right? If it can run things just fine, then it must have good performance :)
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Postby Siva » Fri Mar 28, 08 1:51 pm

I like my ATI 3850.
It's better than a 8600, overclocked it's a 8800GTS 640.

For raw power on a budget, a HD3870X2 is currently the king I believe. Much cheaper than a 8800Ultra, but packs alot more punch than a 8800GTX.

ATI from what I see are trying to create a market between what Nvidia is doing, which I like. I didn't want to have to choose from a 8600 or an 8800. I wanted middle ground, and that's what I've gotten.
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Postby Tantalus » Fri Mar 28, 08 7:35 pm

ATI needs to get their arses in gear and perfect their buggy drivers.
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Postby ~SaSQuAtCH~ » Fri Mar 28, 08 10:06 pm

I got ATI 9600Pro but I don't like it since it doesn't support DirectX9.C :x

nvidia is great.
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Postby Mastakilla » Fri Mar 28, 08 11:16 pm

XII//:Protocol wrote:I like my ATI 3850.
It's better than a 8600, overclocked it's a 8800GTS 640.

For raw power on a budget, a HD3870X2 is currently the king I believe. Much cheaper than a 8800Ultra, but packs alot more punch than a 8800GTX.

ATI from what I see are trying to create a market between what Nvidia is doing, which I like. I didn't want to have to choose from a 8600 or an 8800. I wanted middle ground, and that's what I've gotten.


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Postby Tantalus » Mon Mar 31, 08 9:25 pm

Just updated video drivers. It does run smoother but HL2 is being a little bitch. Furthermore my allies kept killing stalkers so the game was continuously crashing and going into a 480 resolution.
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Postby Siva » Mon Mar 31, 08 9:27 pm

Force it through the INI or make a command line in a shortcut
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Postby Tantalus » Mon Mar 31, 08 9:31 pm

Nah, it's behaving itself but perhaps Catalyst needs to be updated.
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Postby Siva » Mon Mar 31, 08 9:31 pm

Fuck CCC
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Postby Tantalus » Mon Mar 31, 08 10:15 pm

Not really going to go into THAT much depth as it's going to be replaced soon.
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Postby {17}Ales » Mon Mar 31, 08 10:16 pm

GRRR I WANT MY GRAPHICS CARD NOW!!!
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Postby Tantalus » Mon Mar 31, 08 10:40 pm

There's usually a tick box saying "Express Delivery", have you tried that?
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