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Postby kBo » Tue Feb 08, 05 1:06 pm

No, I doubt they hacked us again, Kynazo (Team NGH member) said that Deathscry (person who really hacked us because he hated Dae and Doughboy) said he was commiting suicide because his life sucked. Both his parents died.
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Postby Dae » Tue Feb 08, 05 2:31 pm

kBo wrote:No, I doubt they hacked us again, Kynazo (Team NGH member) said that Deathscry (person who really hacked us because he hated Dae and Doughboy) said he was commiting suicide because his life sucked. Both his parents died.

Deathcry cannot hack.
Kynazo can.
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Postby AlexDenton » Tue Feb 08, 05 7:27 pm

wtf is he suiciding for?
is he off his head?
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Postby Dae » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:07 pm

AlexDenton wrote:wtf is he suiciding for?
is he off his head?

I'd kill myself if my folks die too.
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Postby AlexDenton » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:13 pm

i dont see the point in suicide though

for what reason would you kill yourself?
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Postby MrBlackDX » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:16 pm

there is a few reasons to kill urself, but if my parents died say 5 years ago when i was highly emotional/dramatic then i would probably consider it, but never follow through

anyone who thinks they would of easily commited suicide will think back in 5 years and laugh at themselves, i know i did
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Postby AlexDenton » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:23 pm

i have never even contemplated it

i think it is an immensly stupid thing to go through with, no matter how depressive you are

you will ALWAYS get over it, eventually, and life is too good and too much of a rare gift to waste
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Postby MrBlackDX » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:27 pm

"time is a great healer, unless you have a rash, then you're better off with ointment" - Holly, Red Dwarf
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Postby DarkKnight » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:33 pm

AlexDenton wrote:i have never even contemplated it

i think it is an immensly stupid thing to go through with, no matter how depressive you are

you will ALWAYS get over it, eventually, and life is too good and too much of a rare gift to waste


I agree very much with what you've said, and I think very similar. :)

However, what you and I interpt as one thing in our view, is something completely different to another. Most people that attempt suicide think there is nothing to live for, or that it is the best way out. This isn't to say they are cowards, because you can't judge the situation the person is in with out being there your self.
(Not to mention the question of honour...)

The people don't need to be argued into accepting suicide is a stupid thing to do; they need to be taught that life is worth living, regardless of what you're going through at the moment.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:42 pm

the second most courageous thing you can do is take your own life, the first is to live life.
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Postby AlexDenton » Tue Feb 08, 05 8:46 pm

i know, but i couldn't help being a bit blunt there lol

the strange thing is that i know that i have been in situations that other people would classify as suicidal, but the thought never once crossed my mind

it shows how the human psyche can be influenced by it's surroundings

and example is the Japanese situation

i think that the main reason for the huge number of youth japanese suicides is to do with society:
living in a city like Tokyo, Osaka or Kobe means that upon stepping out of your claustraphobic appartment you are swept into a city of bodies, and people are left feeling almost without an individual identity, but instead feel part of a machine or system of identical people

therefore, if someone disagrees with the system, or for one reason or another, cannot fit in, they find it very hard to live properly in the japanese society and end up seeking an option to get them "outta there"

also, failure in japanese culture is seen as less than accepted, and if someone fails in something major, for example, exams, or even fitting in, it can be very difficult to deal with

this whole situation is not helped by the media, who are constrantly promoting suicide in Japan, and allowing the publication of suicide guides etc

it is a large problem, and it has to be delt with asap
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Postby Jeoh » Tue Feb 08, 05 11:35 pm

if i had nothing to live for i wouldnt kill myself i would instead take HUGE risks and take the chance to make my life worth living again.
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Postby kBo » Wed Feb 09, 05 1:28 am

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
kBo wrote:No, I doubt they hacked us again, Kynazo (Team NGH member) said that Deathscry (person who really hacked us because he hated Dae and Doughboy) said he was commiting suicide because his life sucked. Both his parents died.

Deathcry cannot hack.
Kynazo can.


What happened between you and Deathscry? Why is he so mad at you?
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Postby ynnaD » Wed Feb 09, 05 8:52 am

AlexDenton wrote:i have never even contemplated it

i think it is an immensly stupid thing to go through with, no matter how depressive you are

you will ALWAYS get over it, eventually, and life is too good and too much of a rare gift to waste


the reason people think of suicide in the first place is becauyse they think they WON'T get over it and they think there is nothing left in life for them.
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Postby Dae » Wed Feb 09, 05 9:29 am

kBo wrote:
~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
kBo wrote:No, I doubt they hacked us again, Kynazo (Team NGH member) said that Deathscry (person who really hacked us because he hated Dae and Doughboy) said he was commiting suicide because his life sucked. Both his parents died.

Deathcry cannot hack.
Kynazo can.


What happened between you and Deathscry? Why is he so mad at you?

a) I was leader of alpha and he wasn't
b) he wanted to join us, but i said that "we'll have to think", that made him angry, he started flooding the forum with topics like "alpha can suck oure dicks" and so on.
DeathsCry officially apologized to us for his behaviour few months ago - he had suddenly appeared on my server (on map called [A]NYC_Battle) under one of hundreds of his nicknames (which i know) and asked "r u alpha deadulus?"
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Postby ~D[A]rren~ » Wed Feb 09, 05 9:38 am

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
kBo wrote:
~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
kBo wrote:No, I doubt they hacked us again, Kynazo (Team NGH member) said that Deathscry (person who really hacked us because he hated Dae and Doughboy) said he was commiting suicide because his life sucked. Both his parents died.

Deathcry cannot hack.
Kynazo can.


What happened between you and Deathscry? Why is he so mad at you?

a) I was leader of alpha and he wasn't
b) he wanted to join us, but i said that "we'll have to think", that made him angry, he started flooding the forum with topics like "alpha can suck oure dicks" and so on.
DeathsCry officially apologized to us for his behaviour few months ago - he had suddenly appeared on my server (on map called [A]NYC_Battle) under one of hundreds of his nicknames (which i know) and asked "r u alpha deadulus?"


Ahhhh i remember him now back in our alpha days! He was a right dick towards us when he didn't get in. Also urmasssamansblahwhatever spam posts have been deleted.

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Postby Dae » Wed Feb 09, 05 12:36 pm

AlexDenton wrote:i dont see the point in suicide though
for what reason would you kill yourself?


I mean if my parents would die like in case with that young dutch teen - deathscry. Parents mean a lot in my life. They are parents, and they take place of friends for me because i dont have any in RL.
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Postby DarkKnight » Wed Feb 09, 05 2:39 pm

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
AlexDenton wrote:i dont see the point in suicide though
for what reason would you kill yourself?


I mean if my parents would die like in case with that young dutch teen - deathscry. Parents mean a lot in my life. They are parents, and they take place of friends for me because i dont have any in RL.


As important as parents are, time heals all wounds if you allow it to. :)

Although I can say that walking past something that triggers a memory of a friend(Like walking past a plant that smells like on you knew as a child.) you havn't seen forever/ lost can make you emotional, so I guess no one can judge what they'd do untill they are there.

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Postby Jeoh » Wed Feb 09, 05 6:01 pm

*Chops hand off*

Let time heal that wound.
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Postby AlexDenton » Wed Feb 09, 05 8:05 pm

stevie is right
everyone who has had time to know thier parents are attatched to them (even if they dont realise it)

however, as human beings we have leave the ones we love

Miss them but let them go
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Postby MrBlackDX » Wed Feb 09, 05 8:26 pm

basically stop acting like a pussy and go get some pussy

you cling onto your parents as your only nuturing in life then you will end up 72 and still living in ur parents house

after a while u wont be able to afford the go faster stripes for your pc
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Postby kBo » Wed Feb 09, 05 11:01 pm

He was like 16, dude. Cut him some fucking slack. He was a fucking bastard (literally) at 16.
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Postby AlexDenton » Wed Feb 09, 05 11:10 pm

i cant say i know how hard that, is, cos i have 2 parents

however, i still feel that nothing permits suicide

there is always gonna be something good to live for, ALWAYS and i mean always
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Postby Bobo. » Wed Feb 09, 05 11:45 pm

Lucky bastard...I have been depressed so many times just because i didn't know my father.
As a child you need a role model wich usually is your father you know.
Also about the suiciding i have attempted to do this so many times,my life was and still is messed up.
Some people say if someone claims to kill himself the people will go 'Oh he/she is just trying to get attention'.
But imagine this,the person is really serious about it and you will go 'Grow up idiot' or something like that how will you feel after you read in the newspaper that he killed himself?
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Postby Jeoh » Thu Feb 10, 05 9:22 am

MrBlack wrote:basically stop acting like a pussy and go get some pussy

you cling onto your parents as your only nuturing in life then you will end up 72 and still living in ur parents house


Were you dropped as a kid?

Bobo wrote:Lucky bastard...I have been depressed so many times just because i didn't know my father.
As a child you need a role model wich usually is your father you know.


Yep, wouldn't know what I'd be without my dad.
Bobo wrote:Also about the suiciding i have attempted to do this so many times,my life was and still is messed up.
Some people say if someone claims to kill himself the people will go 'Oh he/she is just trying to get attention'.
But imagine this,the person is really serious about it and you will go 'Grow up idiot' or something like that how will you feel after you read in the newspaper that he killed himself?


Usually, you'd know the difference between 'I'm gonna kill myself my life sucks so much *cuts wrists*' and someone who's really going to suicide. I've been suicidal, I know how it feels.

But remember kids, if you're gonna die, die with your boots on.
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Postby DarkKnight » Thu Feb 10, 05 11:00 am

GeneralJeoh wrote:
Bobo wrote:Lucky bastard...I have been depressed so many times just because i didn't know my father.
As a child you need a role model wich usually is your father you know.


Yep, wouldn't know what I'd be without my dad.


I spent most of the life I can remember with out my dad around, if he wasn't at the house he was at work, oversea's, the pub, etc. To say that being rasied without a dad is a problem is wrong, infact sometimes it's harder being raised with one around...

Jeoh wrote:
Bobo wrote:Also about the suiciding i have attempted to do this so many times,my life was and still is messed up.
Some people say if someone claims to kill himself the people will go 'Oh he/she is just trying to get attention'.
But imagine this,the person is really serious about it and you will go 'Grow up idiot' or something like that how will you feel after you read in the newspaper that he killed himself?


Usually, you'd know the difference between 'I'm gonna kill myself my life sucks so much *cuts wrists*' and someone who's really going to suicide. I've been suicidal, I know how it feels.


There are two kinds of suicdes, the ones that will go through with it, and those who won't. The sad fact is you won't know which untill it's too late...

Jeoh wrote:But remember kids, if you're gonna die, die with your boots on.


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Postby Bob » Thu Feb 10, 05 5:00 pm

DarkKnight wrote:
GeneralJeoh wrote:
Bobo wrote:Lucky bastard...I have been depressed so many times just because i didn't know my father.
As a child you need a role model wich usually is your father you know.


Yep, wouldn't know what I'd be without my dad.


I spent most of the life I can remember with out my dad around, if he wasn't at the house he was at work, oversea's, the pub, etc. To say that being rasied without a dad is a problem is wrong, infact sometimes it's harder being raised with one around...


I agree with Stevie there. Not for everyone though. I no longer remember any good points about my dad. I despise him.
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Postby AlexDenton » Thu Feb 10, 05 6:31 pm

its not about WHO brings you up

its about HOW you are brought up, how you are taught to live life

people under misguidance can live it wrongly

i have been brought up to think about everything (and sometimes i am over-analytical) and i see suicide as a bad thing, because no matter how low you are, suicide is the last thing to do

tell yourself, Dont Give Up

alot of people go on about how their idea of life is the right one, and others just dont see it, and alot of those people end up suiciding as they feel they are different
no, what you do is change the other people
its a challange - life itself is a challange, and due to pure luck, others have a bettter chance that others, but everyone must give it their fullest and tackel it

the feeling of winning is unsurpassable, so imagnie winning with life! its an extacy that is better than sex
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Postby Marouku » Thu Feb 10, 05 9:50 pm

I had attemped suicide...but i simply told myself "There's so much more in life I haven't lived."

Advice to teens (or really anyone) thinking their life is shit and trying to attempt suicide:

Just think of what you'll be missing out on. Your life. It's not something to be wasted.
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Postby clyzm » Thu Feb 10, 05 10:48 pm

I don't care what people do with their lives, if he wanted to commit suicide, I'm sure he had a reason.

There is no reason to pity the death of suicidals. If they wanted to die, they die. Don't feel pity for them.

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