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Recently, I was confronted by a college fagtart about ghosts. This guy's all fancy and bases everything on fact, and he said ghosts are a "story to scare little children and wet their bed"

Preposterous, I thought. Ghosts are real, and to you nonbelievers:

Why don't you believe in them? There's clearly enough proof, videos and media to support that spirits and remains can roam the earth. I know I know, science hasn't been able to prove it it, but they DO exist, I know that much

If you don't believe in them, speak up.

I dont know what to believe, and tbh, i dont think its important, i believe in Heaven and Christianity and all that, ghosts dont come into that equation

But meh, so what if some people think differently about philisophical things, its morales which everyone has to keep similar

Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

i beleave in ghosts and lost soals and that kinda shit

MrBlack wrote:I dont know what to believe, and tbh, i dont think its important, i believe in Heaven and Christianity and all that, ghosts dont come into that equation

But meh, so what if some people think differently about philisophical things, its morales which everyone has to keep similar

How is it not important?

Bermuda triangle, Bigfoot etc those paranormal activities are very important, some can lead to a science breakthrough if proven right or wrong!

However Bermuda triangle mistery was solved lately as far as i remember.

And I don't believe in what i haven't seen or felt :S

To be honest right, there is no solid evidence for us to be able to determine if there are ghosts or not. Just before this turns into a flamewar.

JC

doA wrote:Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

there is no proof there isnt a god, or heaven, or ghosts

truthly i dont know what to make of "ghosts" myself....if by coincidence (i apologise if i misspelled that) if i was to see, get possessed, turn into one one day...then i'll tell you otherwise..

MrBlack wrote:

doA wrote:Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

there is no proof there isnt a god, or heaven, or ghosts

There is proof that ghosts are real.

Nonfiction books, websites.

Ever try googling "ghosts", "spirits" and/or "haunts"?

Atomsk wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

doA wrote:Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

there is no proof there isnt a god, or heaven, or ghosts

There is proof that ghosts are real.

Nonfiction books, websites.

Ever try googling "ghosts", "spirits" and/or "haunts"?

If Ghosts existence was 100% fact then everyone would believe it, therefore these books and sites are still spurred on by peoples opinions and not any real basis fact

I could say that there is proof that God is real, because I can feel him inside me when I need him

But thats only opinion again

MrBlack wrote:

Atomsk wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

doA wrote:Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

there is no proof there isnt a god, or heaven, or ghosts

There is proof that ghosts are real.

Nonfiction books, websites.

Ever try googling "ghosts", "spirits" and/or "haunts"?

If Ghosts existence was 100% fact then everyone would believe it, therefore these books and sites are still spurred on by peoples opinions and not any real basis fact

I could say that there is proof that God is real, because I can feel him inside me when I need him

But thats only opinion again

Not opinions.

Ghosts are like animals you can study. You can't forge an opinion about them ...

Documenting such things is a hard task, what's harder is getting them to believe it ... however it is possible that ghosts are real, just that science hasn't proven it yet.

Atomsk wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Atomsk wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

doA wrote:Heaven and christianity. Pffft, that's something proof doesn't point at.

there is no proof there isnt a god, or heaven, or ghosts

There is proof that ghosts are real.

Nonfiction books, websites.

Ever try googling "ghosts", "spirits" and/or "haunts"?

If Ghosts existence was 100% fact then everyone would believe it, therefore these books and sites are still spurred on by peoples opinions and not any real basis fact

I could say that there is proof that God is real, because I can feel him inside me when I need him

But thats only opinion again

Not opinions.

Ghosts are like animals you can study. You can't forge an opinion about them ...

Documenting such things is a hard task, what's harder is getting them to believe it ... however it is possible that ghosts are real, just that science hasn't proven it yet.

I never said they arent real mate, im just saying from a standard point of view there is no proof that they exist or that they dont exist, its like God, certain coincidences CAN happen to make things seem like they arent, however i suspect there are such things as ghosts, due to coincidence, their purpose?, meh, i dunno

But i also believe in God, and if he says "no ghosts", which im actually not sure on, i have to question that and also then question my slight belief in ghosts

I had an experience with a ghost (I shiit you not) I didn't see it or anything but the people that moved in after us did, it's actually somewhat funny how it happened you see I was about to hop in the shower when i heard loud banging since it was around marti gra i figured it was a bunch of guys turning their rap up loud so i went to the window to curse at them no lights no cars no nothin, I heard it again and this time i could feel the thumping on the floor, I yelled mom she wasnt even on the second floor with me, I was freakin out here I am buck naked and about to piss myself, immediatelly i put some pants on and bolted downstairs, told my mom about it and she told 'me' to go back up and get her purse so we could go get dad back home to check it out. He'd been hearing the same stuff since we moved in, so we decided this place was way to funky and to trashy a place to live so, and this will support ghosts and christianity, My family and me are christian so we said a prayer and asked God to make the spirit leave us alone, after that we didnt hear from it again, a month later we left sold the house to a nice couple and by the way they're the ones (if you didnt already catch this) that actually saw the ghost

For any of you that don't believe me, thats your deal

Mike wrote:I had an experience with a ghost (I shiit you not) I didn't see it or anything but the people that moved in after us did, it's actually somewhat funny how it happened you see I was about to hop in the shower when i heard loud banging since it was around marti gra i figured it was a bunch of guys turning their rap up loud so i went to the window to curse at them no lights no cars no nothin, I heard it again and this time i could feel the thumping on the floor, I yelled mom she wasnt even on the second floor with me, I was freakin out here I am buck naked and about to piss myself, immediatelly i put some pants on and bolted downstairs, told my mom about it and she told 'me' to go back up and get her purse so we could go get dad back home to check it out. He'd been hearing the same stuff since we moved in, so we decided this place was way to funky and to trashy a place to live so, and this will support ghosts and christianity, My family and me are christian so we said a prayer and asked God to make the spirit leave us alone, after that we didnt hear from it again, a month later we left sold the house to a nice couple and by the way they're the ones (if you didnt already catch this) that actually saw the ghost

For any of you that don't believe me, thats your deal

That was my story...the fuckin bastard

No I believe you, infact paranormal activity is why my mum is a christian. When she was younger the house what she lived was what 5 priests said was Satan's presence and they couldn't get rid of it or know what to do. But it wasn't 1 thing that was happening it was alot of things, like most nights when everyone was in bed you could hear someone walking around but no one is up, banging on windows which you would expect to put it through, several occasions my mother saw a tall figure with its face covered behind her in a mirror but when she turned around nothing was there, the same thing was stood in the corner of the room one night when she went to bed. When she was listening to her music she could hear something in the background and wondered what it was so she turned the music off and it was still there so she thought it was the speakers so she unplugged it from the wall and it was still hapenning then realised it was a heavy breathing coming from behind her. I havn't spoken to my uncle about it mutch but I he told me that one night he was in his bedroom and a chair at his desk started shaking and he started crying and screaming for his mum [I laughed so hard when he told me this because he's one hard bastard lol]. My nan has told me quite alot too, like rooms fill up with bad smells from nowhere, she's seen someone looking through the letterbox from inside the house when she has been walking up to it, she also told me that she was watching tv [she told me what program because she remembers it well but I don't remember] and the screen went dark and she thought it was something to do with the signal and then for a few seconds what she says were a pair of discoloured brown eyes appeared on screen and when it went back to normal no one on the tv said sorry about the interruption blah blah like you usually get. They applied to the council to move house but they said it wasn't a valid reason and pretty much didn't believe them [that was before the priests]. So my nan and granddad had a look into what was there before houses were built and there was a well or something which was near where the house was, and there was a pile of crap in the corner of the garden which was there when they moved there. So they moved it all and uncovered a big hole that wasn't filled in properly [now it has a garage over it, I've seen it recently] after they uncovered that the shit got more frequent and active in the house and started to nock you on the stairs that's when they got the priests and that's when they couldn't get rid of it and came to the conclusion of it being Satan and then they finally moved after they had some sort of proof to give. Then a few years ago my mother went to church to see if she could find answers about it, then they brainwashed her and now she is a different person and everything is god god god now

Fuckin hell didn't realise I rambled on that long -__-

I find it hard to comprehend the existence of ghosts tbh. Life is life. We live, then we die. Our body becomes a corpse. We are no longer conscious, are body, brain and mind die. The end.

However, if there were ghosts, it raises all kinds of further questions. How come not everyone sees 1? If everyone who died became a ghost, surely they'd be all over the show and loads more people would see 1 or 2. Therefore, does that mean not everyone becomes a ghost? in that case, who or what decides if you become one? why are there ghosts? whats is their purpose? are they ghosts forever or just for a period of time? what happens once their time as a ghost is up?

Ghost are supposed to have "unfinished buisiness" thats why they're here.
Hmm, sounds like a cheesy tagline out of a bad film lol.

Hahaha reminded me of Casper, what a bad film LOL

Lazer wrote:I find it hard to comprehend the existence of ghosts tbh. Life is life. We live, then we die. Our body becomes a corpse. We are no longer conscious, are body, brain and mind die. The end.

However, if there were ghosts, it raises all kinds of further questions. How come not everyone sees 1? If everyone who died became a ghost, surely they'd be all over the show and loads more people would see 1 or 2. Therefore, does that mean not everyone becomes a ghost? in that case, who or what decides if you become one? why are there ghosts? whats is their purpose? are they ghosts forever or just for a period of time? what happens once their time as a ghost is up?

The easy answer is that we can only comprehend that which we are exposed to. For all we know, there is a parral universe tied to ours, which is like nothing we know, where time has little meaning and 'life' is not limited to a corpse. The rules and beliefs we have here would have no standing there.

It is totally possible that what we consider the soul, is actually 'life' as it exists there, only tied to us on the deepest level. No rules we have here could govern there, and that includes death as we understand it.

The main thing I find, is that if something weird happens, paranormal, spiritual, whatever

Dont blame it on what you cant comprehend

Things usually happen for a reason

The parting of the red seas, for example, can be scientifically proven, in a sense, its coincidence that God led Moses and co to that point in time

But yeah, until you cant prove something scientifically, dont bother scapegoating the situation on something above human and nature.

i don't believe in ghost , but i do think there can be some sort of magnetic energy , it is said that when a person dies there can be several reasons why he stays on earth as a 'ghost'.For example because he wants revenge on his murderers because the person got slaughtered in a brutal way ( five nails through the head LOL ).Another reasons can be because he needs to finish something he couldn't do ,like delivering a letter to a beloved one , because he can't do it anymore he haunts around , perhaps to find a person who can deliver it ( Erie Indiana LOL ).I think ghost is the same stories as aliens. And although there is some magnetic energy or what ever the scientific name and explaination is ( except the ' omg ghoooooost ' one ) more than a single message on the mirror can't be done by the ghost , so sweet dreams in your haunted hous and don't worry about being stabbed, ripped in two parts and your guts taken out of your body

Or randomly scaring people and spying on women in the shower! Throwing stones at kids and kicking cats. Oh I want to be a ghost :'(

[A]MoshMan wrote:Or randomly scaring people and spying on women in the shower! Throwing stones at kids and kicking cats. Oh I want to be a ghost :'(

haha , just like the film Ghost , beating the shit out of someone while he can't do anything back

What a nublar.

I scare Ghosts with my giant arse.

This is older than a buttfuck by Tom Green!

Also, if you are quite the skeptic, then you wouldn't believe in ghosts, but rather, Dualism.

I dont see why people reject the idea of ghost's,its just plain simple that some spirit's dont want to leave this planet so they stay here on earth and haunt or wander,just goto Alkatraz or Aushvits,those places have plenty of ghost's

yea and hell , heaven , god , satan , aliens , jesus walking on water , the story about adam and eve , its all true i tell you , ITS ALL TRUE , it was never based on lies , JUST BELIEVE IT ALL !!!

Lazer wrote:I find it hard to comprehend the existence of ghosts tbh. Life is life. We live, then we die. Our body becomes a corpse. We are no longer conscious, are body, brain and mind die. The end.

However, if there were ghosts, it raises all kinds of further questions. How come not everyone sees 1? If everyone who died became a ghost, surely they'd be all over the show and loads more people would see 1 or 2. Therefore, does that mean not everyone becomes a ghost? in that case, who or what decides if you become one? why are there ghosts? whats is their purpose? are they ghosts forever or just for a period of time? what happens once their time as a ghost is up?

Actually like yall know im a christian, and i have a theory that earth is hell, in both ways