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[Alex]

A new server exists, [FGS]Shadowrunner Server. Some [A] have admin, Some [N] and some [FGS] so far. Maps will always be custom. Server will always be augged. We are looking right now at seeing if we can host DXSG maps without problems too. We are also looking for more admins.

The server will try to be democratic, so if u feel a map or gametype or settings should change, please let me know.

Also I will offer space/times for clan wars and maptesting, just get in touch. Imaginative and well-made maps will get permanent hosting too. There are no special requirements, just make a map how you want to make it, remembering the server is augged.

As I have zero experience, any comments or suggestions will be appreciated.

DejaVu's dog.

[Dae]

Don't revive past

enough of that

more servers = good

[Alex]

Ok, I'll correct myself.

*Backstabbing dog.

[Tonnochi]

Come on...

If I get my server back up, I'll run 2, one aug and one 0-aug.


Then I'll go to Kai's







And party all night long

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Max what is BFP2? And I would like to host Covert with biobots...
Kaiden, thx. Dae, Thx.

Alex clearly has yet to realize that unlike Alex, Deja has never

1. Accused me all over major forums of cheating
2. Called me a noob
3. Got angry with me for my lack of experience
4. Lost his temper with me in a server
5. Threatened me
6. Called me a whining bitch.

If u want to separate the community and have hostility, that is fine Alex, but you are on your own... past is past, I realized the only way for this community to survive is to tolerate even the untolerable. I have no shame to work with Deja, he treats me far better than you do Alex. You are a disgrace to A. If you want to live in the past then do so...

It was my decision to make augged maps, long before Deja offered the server, you can check with Jon, Amtrack has full weps and biobots and its a dxms map... so you can be as suspicious as you like, but DV is gone and Alex is the only whining disrespectful bxxtch I see... Due to being lied about and accused, I trust Deja 100 times more than [A]lex... disgrace...

[Aidan]

Shadow is right, Deja's turned his tables

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Shadow is right, Deja's turned his tables

i dunno who u are but thx, if this lot GREW UP for one second, especially Alex, they would realize that DV is actually sorry for what he has done...

Although he cost ppl time and money and that was terrible, some good came out of the war... definitely for mappers, definitely for the community as a whole... love your friends, but love your enemies more...EDIT: If you "send ppl to coventry", its you that will end up miserable, look at Alex...I would have to find my convo, but I think I actually got convo of DV admitting his errors...

something you already know and dont need to drag... oh wait ... shall we drag up Alex's past?

[Imperial]

"actually sorry for what he has done... "

As much as starting a new gameplan, which doesn't involve destroying the Multiplayer, I'll agree there. But remorseful for what he did? I find that hard to beleive.. in fact, had he find a vulnerability tomorrow, which could put 0augs off the map again, I would be suprised if he would pass up on it

He certainly hasn't apologised, so I find that statement hard to beleive

Also about admins, I would be happy to help if you wish.. shall I pm you?

Also, map suggestion, do you know bh_7( something like that).. maybe do a trial of that, see reactions? It could easily be used in augs and has a set goal to it

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

that all sounds great Imp...

I think Alex and I and everyone should take his clan leader's advice...

in fact, had he find a vulnerability tomorrow, which could put 0augs off the map again, I would be suprised if he would pass up on it

OK maybe I was exaggerating, but he definitely admitted it was pointless what he did, and if I had to bet my life on it, judging from msn, he will not mess with 0-augs again... in fact the only ppl exploiting this bit of positive news seems to be his arch-enemy Alex and another A member who suggested Deja was preparing to rid 0-augs again. Server settings, so what?Put it this way, DV now knows he can lead the horse to water, but he cant force it to drink...

Alex the ugliest thing in DX is a veteran losing his temper with less skilled team-mates... learn that before you expect any quarter from me. Lose it with me I dont care, but dont dare to with a new player plz.

Peace. Out. Please enjoy the server and carry on with suggestions and advice.... thank you for your time..

And btw I am working on a 0-aug server so you can ALL stfu...

[Mastakilla]

Now we are the bad guys rofl.

Piss off.

[Zantinzuken]

Saying he's changed is all well and good, but I'll believe it when I see it, like the rest of this board will. Alex didn't go out of his way to destroy a gametype out of the blue, he retaliated.

Don't bring in your silly quarrel with him so that you can defend Deja, it makes you appear petty, a person that will do anything to get a shot in. I've seen you do this often.

Interbutts, serious, business etc.

[Tonnochi]

Okay, here I am.

1. Your Deja's bitch

2. If [A]lex called you anything, it's probably true

3. Deja is not sorry

4. Dig up [A]lex's past? You writing a soap now?

5. Whoever says "what is BFP2" is a noob

6. Who am I? I'm Spider-Man...

[Imperial]

I'm smelling a flame here, a bit uncalled for

[Zantinzuken]

Yeah Tonnochi, keep it clean please. I know you're new here which is why I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Don't bring in your silly quarrel with him

How was I firing any shots, until Alex fired his... You try to shift the blame once again from [A] to [FGS] for this argument...

What quarrel? I posted about a server, it is you lot who are talking about 0-augs, wars, bitches, dogs and generally being nasty about a new server. Don't forget, Alex boasted about attacking augged servers, by doing so he made both sides of the community guilty...Let me ask you a question, shall I remove my server? Would you prefer to be playing on GODZSERVER with GODZ maps?

There are only two permanent 0-aug servers. One hosts stock maps, the other hosts very small, actor-less, often bot and turret-less maps... to me this is not good. DX is more than CS. Whine and bitch all u like, you are just proving that I made the right decision and I can trust deja more than you. You are also proving that you are not really willing to heal the community and its problems, that once again, this is about power...

Fine lets all target an individual called shadow shall we and call him all names under the sun. Tonnochi, u don't even know what you are talking about... This topic wasn't about me or Alex, but you succeeded in making it so... congratulations.

This project was an attempt to bring the community together. It's very clear now that some ppl here don't wish that to happen, particularly Alex and Tonnochi...

And once again you got it wrong, Deja = Shadow's bitch... how I am serving him? He has given his services free, on one condition - that the maps are custom and the gametype is augged. Nothing sinister in this at all, in fact generous I would say. You are completely mad Alex...

[Tonnochi]

Yeah Tonnochi, keep it clean please. I know you're new here which is why I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I have since calmed down...

[Alex]

From: ShadowRunner
To: ~[A]lex~
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:31 pm
Subject: Re: mods
ur gonna run out of names to call me soon...

He's working for me, you got it the wrong way round,

now shhhhh...

Plus this part:

And once again you got it wrong, Deja = Shadow's bitch...

I wonder what DejaVu will think of that?

[Dae]

3. Deja is not sorry

4. Dig up [A]lex's past? You writing a soap now?

Whether he's sorry or not, I wouldn't want to return to the past of the community. I wouldn't want to have here endless and utterly stupid debates about what gametype is better and which part of the community has better attitude. That's destructive. We're entitled to our opinions, but that doesn't require hostility at all.

I'm pretty happy with current state of affairs and in particular that Deja develops aug community peacefully now. Moreover, what he does now is certainly good.

I see no crime in what ShadowRunner did. It's a good chance to have his maps hosted somewhere and it's a pretty normal deal without anyone's right impaired.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm defending the current state of the community.

Pity I haven't read the Bible. There's a wise saying about this in it.

[Imperial]

3. Deja is not sorry

4. Dig up [A]lex's past? You writing a soap now?

Whether he's sorry or not, I wouldn't want to return to the past of the community. I wouldn't want to have here endless and utterly stupid debates about what gametype is better and which part of the community has better attitude. That's destructive. We're entitled to our opinions, but that doesn't require hostility at all.

I'm pretty happy with current state of affairs and in particular that Deja develops aug community peacefully now. Moreover, what he does now is certainly good.

I see no crime in what ShadowRunner did. It's a good chance to have his maps hosted somewhere and it's a pretty normal deal without anyone's right impaired.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm defending the current state of the community.

Pity I haven't read the Bible. There's a wise saying about this in it.

yes, you have a point

The current situation is certainly more prefferable and productive things are happening, which we have to be grateful for, things have defiantly gotten better

[Mr. Tastix]

The whole issue with DejaVu is in the fucking past. It's over now, and if anything happens again THEN you can be fucked off about it.

Sure, I don't like and didn't like what Deja did just as much as the next person probably did. But, I don't think anyone should have to defend DejaVu for his actions, only he should - because HE and no one else did them.

1. Just because you like Augs or prefer making Augged Maps does not give anyone the right to call your Deja's Bitch. Because, unless you were associated with Deja while he fucked DXMP over, then no one has the right to say you're a backstabbing asshole. I for one like Augs, just as DejaVu does, and just as a lot of people do, and I'm sure plenty of people like making Maps for Auggers. Does that mean they liked what Deja did? No, I didn't, because I play(ed) on both Augs and 0-Aug servers.

2. If DejaVu has really "changed" then I'd like to see it for myself. In my opinion, it's bullshit unless I see substantial evidence to prove otherwise.

3. WTF is BFP2? Not that it'd matter to me, and how the fuck are you a noob for not knowing something? So, am I a "noob" if I didn't know what a Clan or Ping was? Considering most people new to multiplayer gaming DON'T know what the fuck either are (I know what Clans were from other games, but Ping is a different story).

4. Things that happened in the past, should stay in the past. Deja fucked us all over before, but since then, it's stopped. You should be fucking happy that someone is actually trying to help the DX scene by hosting a new damn server.

And finally - you're all fucking assholes considering a new fucking server for DXMP has been made. You should all be fucking HAPPY that Deus Ex is getting bigger. Y'know what? Fuck you. Warn me if you want, but what kind of community is this when all you fucking do is flame, rant, flame some more, bring up past incidences and then kick someone in the nuts ten times over for attempting to liven up Deus Ex?

[Allan]

Ping is an estimated reaction time used between computers to judge connectivity/lag. A few small packages are sent out from the pinging computer, and when they reach their destination, they send back info about connectivity speed. The number displayed is usually reaction time in milliseconds.

Interestingly: You can affect the pings in the serverlist by using Slomo. =S

[Magus]

Naturally. Using the slomo command also affects the timing code, meaning ping times appear to be lower.

[Spiderbot01]

The whole issue with DejaVu is in the fucking past. It's over now, and if anything happens again THEN you can be fucked off about it.

Sure, I don't like and didn't like what Deja did just as much as the next person probably did. But, I don't think anyone should have to defend DejaVu for his actions, only he should - because HE and no one else did them.

1. Just because you like Augs or prefer making Augged Maps does not give anyone the right to call your Deja's Bitch. Because, unless you were associated with Deja while he fucked DXMP over, then no one has the right to say you're a backstabbing asshole. I for one like Augs, just as DejaVu does, and just as a lot of people do, and I'm sure plenty of people like making Maps for Auggers. Does that mean they liked what Deja did? No, I didn't, because I play(ed) on both Augs and 0-Aug servers.

2. If DejaVu has really "changed" then I'd like to see it for myself. In my opinion, it's bullshit unless I see substantial evidence to prove otherwise.

3. WTF is BFP2? Not that it'd matter to me, and how the fuck are you a noob for not knowing something? So, am I a "noob" if I didn't know what a Clan or Ping was? Considering most people new to multiplayer gaming DON'T know what the fuck either are (I know what Clans were from other games, but Ping is a different story).

4. Things that happened in the past, should stay in the past. Deja fucked us all over before, but since then, it's stopped. You should be fucking happy that someone is actually trying to help the DX scene by hosting a new damn server.

And finally - you're all fucking assholes considering a new fucking server for DXMP has been made. You should all be fucking HAPPY that Deus Ex is getting bigger. Y'know what? Fuck you. Warn me if you want, but what kind of community is this when all you fucking do is flame, rant, flame some more, bring up past incidences and then kick someone in the nuts ten times over for attempting to liven up Deus Ex?

BFP2>You.

Also, Shadow, I don't quite see how we're shifting the blame from [A] to [FGS], the fact that you're in that clan has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. I don't quite get why you keep trying to bring stuff like that up.

And I shall get back to you on Covert..

[Mr. Tastix]

Yes, well, I know what that is now lol. Also, if it ain't done, how do you know it owns me? I am God, nothing owns me. I don't give a shit what other people think. Because God owns all meaning:

I > All. End of fucking Story.

[Jon]

Fuck you. Warn me if you want, but what kind of community is this when all you fucking do is flame, rant, flame some more

Yep, you said it; now take your head from inside the ass of augged gameplay, and look at it reasonably - you have no idea what most of the players in this clan went through when DejaVu took down those 0-Augged servers, least of all me.

Most will know that DXMS was online then offline several times during the whole ordeal, and every single time it came back online was because of another one of my efforts to stop DejaVu's attacks; I'd tried editing the individual maps to disallow augs, I tried using a few custom made classes that a few close DXers had provided, including going as far as the lead coders for several Single-Player mods that are in construction.

Please, don't try and look down on us when you don't realise the true severity of the situation. More than 3 people in this clan were hosting before the attack, and we all know how dissappointing it was to all editors in the community; you don't even know what it feels like to be denied the freedom of hosting your own communities works for the public - a community that I'd built from the ground up; I was about ready to disband it after the attacks.

Baring that in mind, take note that over 1/2 of this clan are modders, but they never gave up like I almost did; instead, they pressed on, attempting to stop the efforts of the individual, DejaVu. Augged gameplay hatred was inevitable, because most feel that that was where it all started; remember who brought the issue to the surface, and remember who is still having an impact on our ill-sighted hatred to this day - DejaVu.

Shadow; this topic shouldn't be steered towards clan-wide hatred. The complaints are made by but a few [A] members, and I've really had enough community blame based on one individual to last a lifetime.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Dae And Psych said it for me I dont need to say anything.

The whole reason for working with the enemy was to ensure no repeat of last year's conflict. You keep your friends close, but your enemies closer... I notice raising an issue about your clan round here, meets aggression. There is no talking to you. You actually thrive on hostility and hate and spam.

I suffered as much as anyone and I opposed Deja as much as anyone. However I am not 12 years old and living in the past.

You dont realize how my server is actually helping the 0-aug community, and I am not even going to tell you. Bitch me every time I open my mouth.

You say you hate me cos all I do is bitch A. This may have been true in the past and I apologize. But the only one bitching now is Alex... and he's doing the 0-aug community no favours by dragging up this shit. In fact he is putting you at risk.

[Spiderbot01]

Fuck you. Warn me if you want, but what kind of community is this when all you fucking do is flame, rant, flame some more

Yep, you said it; now take your head from inside the ass of augged gameplay, and look at it reasonably - you have no idea what most of the players in this clan went through when DejaVu took down those 0-Augged servers, least of all me.

Most will know that DXMS was online then offline several times during the whole ordeal, and every single time it came back online was because of another one of my efforts to stop DejaVu's attacks; I'd tried editing the individual maps to disallow augs, I tried using a few custom made classes that a few close DXers had provided, including going as far as the lead coders for several Single-Player mods that are in construction.

Please, don't try and look down on us when you don't realise the true severity of the situation. More than 3 people in this clan were hosting before the attack, and we all know how dissappointing it was to all editors in the community; you don't even know what it feels like to be denied the freedom of hosting your own communities works for the public - a community that I'd built from the ground up; I was about ready to disband it after the attacks.

Baring that in mind, take note that over 1/2 of this clan are modders, but they never gave up like I almost did; instead, they pressed on, attempting to stop the efforts of the individual, DejaVu. Augged gameplay hatred was inevitable, because most feel that that was where it all started; remember who brought the issue to the surface, and remember who is still having an impact on our ill-sighted hatred to this day - DejaVu.

Shadow; this topic shouldn't be steered towards clan-wide hatred. The complaints are made by but a few [A] members, and I've really had enough community blame based on one individual to last a lifetime.

Yeah, Team [PMS] saved the fucking lot of you.

But seriously though, Shadow, you've done it again. The fact people in [A] may bitch at you, does not mean that [A] bitch at you. The different people that happen to be in the [A] clan are bitching at you. Theres a MASSIVE difference.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Man gets shot by a cop. Was he shot by that guy? Or was he shot by cops? You wear a tag, you are that tag, you represent that tag. That's how I feel.

But I take your point that A pride is hurt by all my bitching. Like I said, often I had the wrong facts, or was defending myself or ignorant of the truth. I am here to announce a server and find maps. Don't doubt me. Your clan is perfect, you never do anything wrong. I am a traitor to 0-augs and deja's bitch and Alex is the most reasonable, honest and trustworthy person in DX.
Once again I am just bitching your perfect perfect clan. Its not Alex that should apologize, it is I, for being a noob and traitor to 0-augs. Alex is the hero of 0-aug, for stooping to Deja's level, I should never have complained about him lying about me, I should never have complained about him accusing me of cheating, I should never have complained about your insults.

All I ever do is bitch A. as you can see from my topic title and first post. Let the record show that once again Shadow started a topic to abuse your clan, abused your clan and should now be victimized for it...

go ahead... make my day...

[Alex]

Your clan is perfect, you never do anything wrong. I am a traitor to 0-augs and deja's bitch and Alex is the most reasonable, honest and trustworthy person in DX.
Once again I am just bitching your perfect perfect clan. Its not Alex that should apologize, it is I, for being a noob and traitor to 0-augs. Alex is the hero of 0-aug, for stooping to Deja's level, I should never have complained about him lying about me, I should never have complained about him accusing me of cheating, I should never have complained about your insults.

So you finally get it.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

A traitor to 0-augs huh? How am I that?


You live in the past Alex, you wish for the days when you had power and attacked Ste and got thanked for it etc...

Since you threatened me clearly, I have no shame in saying that next time you intimidate a noob and get too serious and act like a bully, ordering ppl, telling them how to play, how many lams they may use against you, I'm gonna demorec it.

I'm here too, whether you try to carry out your threat or not... I'm here!!!