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Postby synthetic » Mon Jan 23, 06 11:43 am

I started SP again and tried different ways to complete it like years ago but every time I got to that basketball court I had to mess about a little there.

Where I am trying to get here is that is someone here willing to fix some simple mod and map for a good basketball game? It is quite possible to score and it might be interesting lol.

I am not aware of any similar mods but Im sure there might be few. Perhaps a sort of a short competition might do? I tried doing the map myself as I have some extra time these days but as always I end up closing the editor few seconds after I open it. Dont have what it takes to sit down and map anymore =(

Anyway what you lot think?
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jan 23, 06 1:04 pm

Basketball Court... Basketball Court...

What Basketball Court? Which game is this referring to?
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Postby VodunLoas » Mon Jan 23, 06 1:19 pm

He is referring to the basketball court in Hells Kitchen. There is a map called Basketball I think, or if its the same there's one called BloodBall... or something.
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jan 23, 06 1:22 pm

VodunLoas wrote:He is referring to the basketball court in Hells Kitchen. There is a map called Basketball I think, or if its the same there's one called BloodBall... or something.


Hm... I can't recall this... Damn... And it's typical that I've seen the Hell's Kitchen map several times before, lol...

Oh wait! I know that bit! Yup, I remember now, I also know that I hate Basketball, and any other Sport for that matter, lol.

Yeah make a game where you can shoot to get the ball as well, rofl.
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Postby MainMan » Mon Jan 23, 06 2:42 pm

~Psychotic~ wrote:
VodunLoas wrote:He is referring to the basketball court in Hells Kitchen. There is a map called Basketball I think, or if its the same there's one called BloodBall... or something.


Hm... I can't recall this... Damn... And it's typical that I've seen the Hell's Kitchen map several times before, lol...

Oh wait! I know that bit! Yup, I remember now, I also know that I hate Basketball, and any other Sport for that matter, lol.

Yeah make a game where you can shoot to get the ball as well, rofl.


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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jan 23, 06 3:03 pm

I'm not into Sport, I'd rather be playing Video Games of Web Designing, it's not your life. Live with it.
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 23, 06 3:22 pm

How do you imagine a player taking away the ball from someone's hands like in reality?
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jan 23, 06 3:31 pm

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:How do you imagine a player taking away the ball from someone's hands like in reality?


Easy, shoot them, lol. Two spots for guns and the other Weapon Spot for the ball, lol.

The other slots stay normal, rofl. If you shoot them they drop the ball, good for targeting practise as they'd drop ball as soon as shot.
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Postby Alex » Mon Jan 23, 06 3:39 pm

When carrying a decoration and then getting shot has as result dropping the decoration.
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 23, 06 4:54 pm

Lol i tried to make a gametype for a DXMP basketball but my limited coding skills stopped me... even though it probably isn't very hard.
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Postby Allan » Mon Jan 23, 06 5:35 pm

I swear that [Z] made a basketball tournament style arena. Prehaps no-damage weapons and 1 goal=1 kill system would work to a B-Ball game type's advantage?
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Postby MainMan » Mon Jan 23, 06 5:49 pm

Ok, I don't mean to be pessimistic, instead reallistic. While this seems like a fun idea, this would soon get boring unless it is done extremely well.

Ideas:

When you start you have your hands (slot 1 i guess). Different keys will have different uses:

Fire: tackle. - this will take the ball off other players and give it to you. (However, it will only work sometimes, depending on your skill level.)

Right-Click: slap. - You can slap the ball out of someones hands and make them drop it. (this will succeed more often than the tackle)

Scope: used instead of right click to catch ball and shoot.

More can also be added, but these are the basics.
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Postby Alex » Mon Jan 23, 06 5:50 pm

And how are you planning to use meshes? Or will it just be like, he is standing next to you, and suddenly your ball is gone?
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Postby MainMan » Mon Jan 23, 06 5:52 pm

~[A]Mr. X~ wrote:And how are you planning to use meshes? Or will it just be like, he is standing next to you, and suddenly your ball is gone?

Oi, arseplasterer, I'm not doing anything, so fuck off. I'm giving ideas to this guy, to help him.
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Postby Alex » Mon Jan 23, 06 6:21 pm

What you did, is not helping, it's making it all more complicated

In the .zip are 2 files. I didn't try to compile it yet, I will try within a couple of minutes. You can try using this as base
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 23, 06 9:49 pm

wow it looks simple enough, (i cant belive i couldnt make that :( )
you'd probably need new animations because holding like a ghostly ball in mid air would be silly.
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Postby Allan » Mon Jan 23, 06 10:17 pm

Hmm, i tried this, and made a map for it too :), and was wondering how it could be made so that if this item is picked up, you cant move, and if you catch it mid-jump, you finish the jump, then cant move, like in real basketball :).
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Postby MainMan » Mon Jan 23, 06 10:26 pm

Allan wrote:Hmm, i tried this, and made a map for it too :), and was wondering how it could be made so that if this item is picked up, you cant move, and if you catch it mid-jump, you finish the jump, then cant move, like in real basketball :).

that's netball lol.
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Postby Allan » Mon Jan 23, 06 11:10 pm

You want to try and do a dribble animation? If you cant dribble, you have to stay where you are, and pass/shoot.

Edit: Never mind, just take the mods and run!
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Postby Cozmo » Tue Jan 24, 06 12:00 am

Allan wrote:Hmm, i tried this, and made a map for it too :), and was wondering how it could be made so that if this item is picked up, you cant move, and if you catch it mid-jump, you finish the jump, then cant move, like in real basketball :).


Mass?... =]
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Postby Allan » Tue Jan 24, 06 12:03 am

Nah, dont think so..., the mass will either make you move slower, and throw shorter throwes, or mean you cant even pick the ball up... :S
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Postby Cozmo » Tue Jan 24, 06 12:05 am

oh yeah, i was thinking of weapons because you can still pick them up...
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Postby synthetic » Tue Jan 24, 06 10:00 am

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:How do you imagine a player taking away the ball from someone's hands like in reality?


Possibly cross the mod with that fistfight mod that went around once. In short reply: punch the guy with the ball in the face.

Another option is perhaps to change balls physics somehow. I never got past coding basics so I would not know how this should look like or if it even is possible.

I see two options right now: make ball clickable and thus available for pickup or make the guy drop it.


~[A]Mr. X~ wrote:When carrying a decoration and then getting shot has as result dropping the decoration.


I would hate to use guns in this particular mod. Like said earlier it would be better if crossed with sort of a mod that includes fists for example.

~MainMan~ wrote:Ok, I don't mean to be pessimistic, instead reallistic. While this seems like a fun idea, this would soon get boring unless it is done extremely well.

Ideas:

When you start you have your hands (slot 1 i guess). Different keys will have different uses:

Fire: tackle. - this will take the ball off other players and give it to you. (However, it will only work sometimes, depending on your skill level.)

Right-Click: slap. - You can slap the ball out of someones hands and make them drop it. (this will succeed more often than the tackle)

Scope: used instead of right click to catch ball and shoot.

More can also be added, but these are the basics.


What you propose goes further than I imagined but why not, if someone can be assed. Adding skills and all could prove slightly more difficult.

Slap is what I had in mind but as I am not aware of any slap mods i proposed that fistfight mod.

~[A]Mr. X~ wrote:And how are you planning to use meshes? Or will it just be like, he is standing next to you, and suddenly your ball is gone?


Seems reasonable enough imo. Im not after DX: NBA

Alex I cant access the files for few days until I get net back at home so if someone here is interested, feel free to work with the code some. would be kickass.
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There is a need for a simple but effective basketball map. It should include dressingrooms/spawns for both teams (or perhaps better if its one big room as teams can spawn separately). Weapons should be removed at spawn, however fist (if added) should remain. I dont know if zone will do for MP and if fist can be coded to bypass the elimination.

Scoring: it would be good if the player is capable of shooting the ball through the net. I think it needs bigger basket than in dx.
Alternatively trigger will have to do.

I tried messing about with the ball and shooting through net shouldnt be thta hard.




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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 24, 06 11:44 am

Well, you are all talking about a fist. If you want to know, it's pretty funny. It's a crowbar.
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Postby Dae » Tue Jan 24, 06 2:25 pm

There's another problem: the ball lags in Internet game. I've attempted to fix it, but failed. Keyword is 'projectile' - LAMs and other thrown projectiles do not lag despite they bounce off the surfaces too.
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 24, 06 3:02 pm

It doesn't really lag for me, it just jumps weird.
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Postby Dae » Tue Jan 24, 06 3:07 pm

~[A]Mr. X~ wrote:It doesn't really lag for me, it just jumps weird.

That's what I meant :) But imho it annoys...
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 24, 06 3:12 pm

Hmm, well, it's a quite funny view, if you think about it, it jumps as if it had too much coca cola+coffee+sugar. I think you should make a base first, and see how the crowd likes it.
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Postby Allan » Tue Jan 24, 06 4:46 pm

cool :) Glad to see that progress is being made here :)

BTW, have any of you looked at the map i used/sent in to test it on?
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 24, 06 4:56 pm

Not me, sorry.
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