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by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Tue Dec 12, 06 2:44 pm

At the request of DXC I am posting this here, it has been up on FGS for a week or so...

AS you know, the makers of the game released SDK so that the community could evolve the game. Notable examples of this are DXSG and DXAG. However one man, Deja Vu has used his skills to prevent these people hosting their hard work/developments of DX, against the wishes of the game-makers and against the freedom of choice of players...

In an effort to prove that it is pointless for Deja to try to prevent people using SDK to evolve the game (so that we only play an old gametype ATDM), I have been thinking about developing a gametype myself. It is basically a development or similar gametype to DXAG. I'm not a coder, so I and other mappers would only be working largely on the maps, it is up to others to get involved for it to work. Deus Ex will not live on ATDM alone, there should always be new games and I don't intend one man and his supporters to say otherwise...No-one has the right to dictate how DX should evolve. The SDK is free and available to anyone. Deja does not have copyright on DX.

DXNY

Off the top of my head, classes could be the following...

TAXI DRIVER...........Crowbar, Tools, Petrol Bombs etc...
COP........................Assault Gun, Gas etc...
SWAT......................Sniper, Shotgun, EMP, etc...
HOOKER..................Throw Knives, Medkits, Pistol etc...
BUM........................Cloak, Sawn-Off etc...
HOOD......................UZI, lockpicks etc...

HACKER...................Stealth Pistol, Tools, some kind of hand computer...

etc

Maps - DXNY speaks for itself...

by **The RZA** » Tue Dec 12, 06 10:32 pm

how about: Thugs, Drug Dealer, Hookers, Bums,Cops, and maybe the Rentons, and Smuggler.

by **MrBlackDX** » Tue Dec 12, 06 11:46 pm

Why dont you just help out DXAG by making your DXNY maps and then i can look into making "scenario class mods"

Like a street scene or something else

by **Razor** » Tue Dec 12, 06 11:56 pm

for DXNY you could have a druggie class, who have good weapons but have constantly got the effect of taking zyme (the waving, blurred vision etc.) but not quite as extreme.

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Wed Dec 13, 06 4:24 am

Thugs, Drug Dealer, Hookers, Bums,Cops, and maybe the Rentons, and Smuggler.

Yeah THUGS, DEALERS, RENTONS, SMUGGLERS... sounds very good...and zymed out JUNKIE class sounds great...

And Mr Black... that sounds like an offer I can not refuse...t'would be an honour guv'nor

One thing is for sure, the maps will be have to be / be an improvement on the original New York maps... then I think it will keep people excited and interested... I'll make additional textures too...

So howbout you guys work out the classes, I'll start mapping, now that I have been cast out of the "Society" of mappers, I am a free agent again...

If everyone is bored shitless of NY in DX, I can make London instead...
My Nikon is raring to go for the textures... but maybe DXNY would be easier to start with... what do you think?

by **Razor** » Wed Dec 13, 06 4:35 pm

maybe with the druggie they could have a inventory item of more "Druggie Zyme" which when taken makes the zyme effects more pronounced but they get more health maybe do more damage (these effects last only like 20 secs maybe)

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Wed Dec 13, 06 4:56 pm

when you say "good weps" what did you have in mind for the junkies?

So zyme could be a pick-up on the maps as well?

And medkits would negate the effects, like a medkit when you are gassed?

And how would it work if you are already zymed and then a cop gassed u?

by **Razor** » Wed Dec 13, 06 6:54 pm

not sure on the weps, it would depend on what other classes get, cop's gas could be altered to be like the spazm spray from allan's supermod, not as a pickup as a starting item for druggies that has special effects, as i said before, makees vision even more blurred and aiming harder, but they get more life and mtaybe get a damage bonus with weapons. medkits would negate the effects for a short time, say 20 secs, or else it is pointless to have it so they are permenantly drugged up.

by **The RZA** » Mon Dec 18, 06 6:15 am

lets see if you like the inventory for the new york characters, maybe youll like these.

1. Drug Dealer - Sawed-Off Shotgun, Pistol, Crowbar, Lams

2. Cops/SWAT - Assault Rifle, Stealth Pistol, Pepper Spray, Gas Grenades

3. Hookers - Tranqs, Pepper Spray, NanoSword, Knife

4. Thugs - Assault Shotgun, Pistol, Knife, Lams

5. Bums - Stealth Pistol, Throwing Knives, Baton, EMP

6. Rentons - Assault Rifle, Assault Shotgun, Pistol, Lams

7. Smuggler - Sniper Rifle, FlameThrower, Crowbar, Lams

also, you can add to each character a special thing, for example, give the drug dealer a zyme, the zyme can heal you full, and boost shield or somthing. and for the rentons, give them a key that can open any door. you know, eazy stuff.

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Tue Dec 19, 06 1:03 pm

Yeah I like that, you have to think very carefully before choosing sniper... I wasn't sure how a bum could afford a stealth pistol and also thought the rentons might be over-armed, but then I guess it depends on Augs. In any case I'm just really glad that people with more experience are putting in their input...

I've started on one of four maps... Mole_City

So the first 4 maps I have in mind are:

1. EscapeFromNewYork - DXNY version remaking... This film just sums up the anarchy in NY in the 70's and I think influenced DX a lot...
2. Mole_City - this is is subterranean mostly... This is half-finished already.
3. DXNY_Amtrak
Amtrak Wars were a series of Sci-Fi/Post-Apocalyptical novels written by Patrick Tilley. There are Trackers (UNATCO) and Mutes (NSF). Mutes lived in Wig-Wams and had supernatural powers. Trackers were very similar to UNATCO. They went about in giant armoured Land-trains and culled the mutes... The map will be set in a suburbian, almost rural setting, wig-wams and a land-train with turrets...
4. DXNY_Hotel_Busted - This will develop an existing map which marries the hotel interior with the NY streets outside...

by **Siva** » Tue Dec 19, 06 2:08 pm

DXUK First plz.

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Tue Dec 19, 06 2:29 pm

Hmm...

That is possible...

Elemental wants to map the Tower of London.

I will start photographing streets and vehicles and useful stuff for UK textures. I think I will ask first before I photograph Copshops and Military stuff, I don't fancy being shot/arrested for spying...

Any requests? I'm gonna photograph retail areas and streetsigns etc...and famous landmarks that don't need permission etc..

by **The RZA** » Tue Dec 19, 06 3:22 pm

hmm, maybe give the bum a taser instead. also, maybe i can make an underground sewer map? ill just need to know what you need in the map.

by **MrBlackDX** » Tue Dec 19, 06 11:56 pm

If you make a UK version all of the classes would just have a "mouth" weapon...

by **The RZA** » Wed Dec 20, 06 12:20 am

i dont understand, anywayz, if you did make a UK version i wouldnt be able to help.

by **Siva** » Wed Dec 20, 06 12:43 am

LADYWELL\CATFORD IN SOUTHEAST LONDON IS A MUST.

Don't wear anything brighter than navy blue. You might get robbed\andor\lynched.

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Wed Dec 20, 06 2:18 am

Bubba wrote:hmm, maybe give the bum a taser instead. also, maybe i can make an underground sewer map? ill just need to know what you need in the map.

Seems like you have been playing MP five years longer than me, you'd know better what it needs... my underground map hasn't got sewers anyway, it's abandoned car parks and subways etc... Sewers will be great...

I dont see any reason why there can't be a DXUK and a DXNY...

mouth -lol... CATFORD - Hmm that is one place I have never been and had no intention of going lol...but I imagine it's no different from where I live...

DXUK_Da_Ghetto_Blud?
DXUK_SO19

by **The RZA** » Wed Dec 20, 06 4:59 am

Seems like you have been playing MP five years longer than me

lol, i have only been playing since 2002, since i was in 6th grade.

anywayz, if or when i do finish the map, what should i call it?
DXNY_Abandoned_Sewer_Network? i dont know, so just throw me some shit. :lol:

by **Siva** » Wed Dec 20, 06 11:44 am

ShadowRunner wrote:
Bubba wrote:hmm, maybe give the bum a taser instead. also, maybe i can make an underground sewer map? ill just need to know what you need in the map.

Seems like you have been playing MP five years longer than me, you'd know better what it needs... my underground map hasn't got sewers anyway, it's abandoned car parks and subways etc... Sewers will be great...

I dont see any reason why there can't be a DXUK and a DXNY...

mouth -lol... CATFORD - Hmm that is one place I have never been and had no intention of going lol...but I imagine it's no different from where I live...

DXUK_Da_Ghetto_Blud?
DXUK_SO19

DXUK_Catford
DXUK_Ladywell

by **The RZA** » Sat Dec 23, 06 7:59 pm

What is your MSN, Shadowrunner?

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Fri Jan 05, 07 2:08 pm

rollosnook@hotmail.com

I work on DXNY_EscapeFromNewYork Part One and Part Two. I am photographing London at the moment for DXUK.

I had another idea for DXAG...

The Circus of Death.

Magician.............................Cloak, Aqualung, DTS, lockpick
Knife-Thrower.....................Combat Strength, Targeting, Throwing Knives
Fire-Eater...........................Energy Shield, Regeneration, FlameThrower
Human CannonBall..............Aggressive Defence System, Ballistic, Assault Gun
Acrobat..............................Speed, Microfibral Muscle, Shotgun
Lion-Tamer.........................Targeting, Regeneration, Darts
MC.....................................Vision, Radar Transparency, Sniper

Apart from the classes mod, I would like to see meshes for the players too...

Just like DXMP_Bloodball, teams could win points for succesful completions of the trapeze, the human cannon etc...

The map would be a "big-top" barmier than Barnum's...

barmy = crazy

by **Cozmo** » Fri Jan 05, 07 5:11 pm

o_O

The knife thrower or "MC" would slaughter everyone.

by **The RZA** » Tue Jan 09, 07 12:50 am

lol, good idea with the circus people.

by **[FGS]ShadowRunner** » Sat Jan 13, 07 9:17 pm

~Cozmo~ wrote:o_O

The knife thrower or "MC" would slaughter everyone.

So it needs someone with better aug knowledge to figure it out...

OK the first DXNY map is ready as a DXMP Aug/0-aug version. Only the Aug Symbols/Doors and DXAG Spwnrooms will need adding. Somehow I'm not very happy with the map...

Dusterstadl feat. [FGS] Forum Index » Downloads » Deus Ex » Maps » EscapeFromNewYorkII

My browser is unable to show the link, it just says gravity-world in the bar.

The_RZA is working on "Abandoned_Sewer_Network"

Here's some shots from an early stage of the build:

Windows that open to allow snipers...

A kind of fight club in the garage...

Damage allows access to and from subterranean levels...

by **MainMan** » Sun Jan 14, 07 12:27 am

Those look nice, but just a tip (not directly to you, it applies to many mappers) - I strongly recommend against trying to create 'rock' landscapes in DX; 99% of the time they look unrealistic.

However, I like that maps, it looks pretty nice.

by **MrBlackDX** » Sun Jan 14, 07 12:05 pm

ShadowRunner wrote:
~Cozmo~ wrote:o_O

The knife thrower or "MC" would slaughter everyone.

So it needs someone with better aug knowledge to figure it out...

OK the first DXNY map is ready as a DXMP Aug/0-aug version. Only the Aug Symbols/Doors and DXAG Spwnrooms will need adding. Somehow I'm not very happy with the map...

Dusterstadl feat. [FGS] Forum Index » Downloads » Deus Ex » Maps » EscapeFromNewYorkII

My browser is unable to show the link, it just says gravity-world in the bar.

The_RZA is working on "Abandoned_Sewer_Network"

Check your PM's for my msn, unless you have already added me...

by **The RZA** » Wed Feb 07, 07 9:58 pm

is DXNY dead or what shadow? i havent heard about it forever, nor have i seen you on msn. :roll:

by **Imperial** » Wed Feb 07, 07 10:25 pm

www.gravity-world.com

You'll find out there, or at dxms

by **Spiderbot01** » Wed Feb 07, 07 10:55 pm

ShadowRunner wrote:DXNY

Off the top of my head, classes could be the following...

TAXI DRIVER...........Crowbar, Tools, Petrol Bombs etc...
COP........................Assault Gun, Gas etc...
Party Van......................Sniper, Shotgun, EMP, etc...
HOOKER..................Throw Knives, Medkits, Pistol etc...
BUM........................Cloak, Sawn-Off etc...
HOOD......................UZI, lockpicks etc...

HACKER...................Stealth Pistol, Tools, some kind of hand computer...

etc

Maps - DXNY speaks for itself...

LOL word filter wins so hard.

by **MainMan** » Wed Feb 07, 07 11:22 pm

Party van?

DXNY

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