So, is it good? I want honest opinions

[Bob]

The time has almost come for me to buy DX: IW

After Christmas I will be able to play all the newer games that my current pc is unable to handle. So one near the top of my list (currently) is the new Invisible War.

Pro's and Con's please

[AlexDenton]

CONS:

short
the male alex sounds a bit gay, lol
u may see the shared ammo as a bit of a con, i dont mind tho (all guns use mako energy, not bullets)
(means alot to me) - crap music expcept the title tune, which imo is good

PROS:

amazing graphics
great physics
immensley interactive
good storyline (it is, dont argue)
atmospheric locations
good intertwining with old DX plot
great augs (biomods)
v realistic

[Jeoh]

I like to call IW the shorter, simpler brother of DX.

[Dae]

Invisible War isn't a really successful release of Ion Storm, I don't know why - probably because a talented person whos name is Warren Spector didnt lead the project himself. Also, they've tryed to manage so the game works in X-Box or whatever, which is not good because they've downgraded the things you make manually in DX (hacking stuff and etc).
Invisible War is not a cyber punk game (actually DX2 is sci-fi), while DX1 is. It's another gay gossip made by "reviewers", who earn the money on their "reviews".
Invisible War is more fantastic. But it contains some kind of an unique atmosphere, but when you start playing it - you don't feel it.
Yes, its a very short game. As a tip, when you're walking throught it, try to complete all the avaible tasks... makes gameplay a bit longer and a bit more interesting.
It has good physics, but sorry, no good graphics. Graphics is good only because its dark..., while in UnrealTournament04, which has the "same" engine, the graphics is much and much better, and in Ut04 you're able to see day and daylight, while in DX2's engine, i think, its simply impossible to do (daylight requires more shadow/cloud processing)
A little story about engines: there was an Unreal engine (DX1 and UT99 is running on it), Epic games (a developer of the engine) has modified it a bit and called it "Unreal 2" engine, after that, Ion Storm (creators of DX1 and DX2) bought unfinished version. Epic games continued working on their version, to make UT03 and UT04 sooner, but Ion Storm tryed to continue engine's development by themselves. Unfortunately, Ion Storm coders weren't that good as Epic Games ones and thats why DX2, without patches, lags as hell, while UT04 lags less, and it may run ten times bigger maps.
About patches: when you, Bob, bought DX2, don't even try to start to play. Download latest patch 1.2 and install it. Download crack if something doesnt work (ask me for this). It will reduce major lags, and also fix the game bugs.
I disagree with AlexDenton about augs - i think, there ARE good augs, but we demand more And also, what for did they shorten the skills system?

[AlexDenton]

there was always the phrase

"skills killed DX"

i disagree but it must have had an impact

and about the crack

i got v1.2, but the crack didnt work cos i hav the UK version of the game

it needs to crack both

IonLauncher and DX2Main

the crack only cracks IonLauncher

ps- the file DX2Main.exe is only included in the US patch

[Bob]

So far so good, well the way i see it...

It's still a 'Must Buy' game

[Bobo.]

I dont have it yet cause people sed it sucked maybe i will buy it...sometime

[Dae]

Skills are crap in DX1MP, but i can't imagine DXSP without it.

[AlexDenton]

the skill system in SP was good, yeh, unique

but Lockpicking and Electronics skills were ruled out when ppl found out the lockpicking/multitool bug

lol

[Bob]

There are to many bugs to be abused in DXSP

[Jeoh]

On Smuggler, in certain servers, I do not need tools for bio. I just grab the bot through the window.

[Dae]

Yeh, but its a Smuggler. What about Cathedral

[Jeoh]

lmao, I camp in Cathedral.
People who try to get 20mm are dead there, I just keep watching both 20mm sites

[Bob]

TOMG!

Camp h4x nub!!!!!!!11111111111oneoneone

[Grayfox]

CONS:

short

the male alex sounds a bit gay, lol
u may see the shared ammo as a bit of a con, i dont mind tho (all guns use mako energy, not bullets)
(means alot to me) - crap music expcept the title tune, which imo is good

PROS:

amazing graphics
great physics
immensley interactive
good storyline (it is, dont argue)
atmospheric locations
good intertwining with old DX plot
great augs (biomods)
v realistic

this was a complete let down and the textures were the worste ive ever seen
modles were average
nothing postivie i could say about this game
it was an average game

[AlexDenton]

ahem

http://www.dxalpha.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3100

[Grayfox]

Wont change my mind

dx2 still got the microwave from me

halo 2 did too
due to the fact it wasnt finished

i cant get over the fact that halo 2 wasnt finished
im halfway through the game and its over im like wtf it was looking like a 7or 8/10 and then its just done

ok back to the topic

dx2 sucks

[[slim]]

dx2 for xbox was amazingly laggy, thats wat i really didnt like about it, but then agian ghost recon had te same problems but i still play it like crazy

[Jeoh]

Some people have an unwarrnated dislike of skill system? Skills made DXSP it's own genre and gave MP it's draw.

[AlexDenton]

skill system was ingenious

[[E3]H!TM@N]

Well tbh its a good game, but what really anoys me is, 'oh you must go see mr/mrs x' in what ever part, and it takes fuggin ages to load map and then i get jumped by these fuggin omars wantin me to buy sh*t off them and do sum other stuff, and i just forget what to do, so i just got the debug menu and killed alot of things to clear up lagg.
Clear up [aka: kill]
fog / smoke [makes ppl look illuminated and turn white, and backround turns browny gray]
shadowing [i cant see any, as Dae pointed out, it is mostly, if not always in the dark]
unesisary 'stuff' [u know.. miscalneous, i know i cant spell ]
And i had to turn the res back to 640 x 840 or what ever, cos then its lagg as sh*t!!
Oh and the graphs sux0rz compared to some of the game i have [hitman contracts, coutner strike series, alexander the great etc..]

Final conclusion. DX2 has kick ass biomods, but not enough slots, altho u can overwrite [both pro & con. 6 ONLY inc Light default]
Black market mods are not that hard to get hold of, bot domination RULES!!!!
Weapon / Inventory system isnt that great. on the HUD [ingame, not paused] you have 6 slots, and paused inven has 6 more.
lockpics look like laser zappers. and they are multitools iswell. [a pro]
explosive crates are TOO explosive
Sniper rifle sucks, so does flamethrower and the GEP equiv [except its alt fire, which is cool! - user controled rocket, limited time control only] Helfire bolcaster is THE BEST WEAPON ON THERE!!!!
Ammo system is both Con & Pro as some one pointed out..

So thats like a fairly 6.5/10 for me. [if it wasnt laggy, and maps load uber fast like DX1, then it'l go up to 8-8.5/10]

[AlexDenton]

That depends on your system.
If you had a better system, it wouldn't lag at all.

[Dae]

If you had a better system, it wouldn't lag at all.

It lags even on my computer

[MrBlackDX]

It probably just has graphics card incompatability then, i think Alex has suggested that you should really update and patch the game before you even touch it!

[AlexDenton]

yes, it was one of those games that were released before there was good enough technology to accomodate it

[[E3]H!TM@N]

well tbh i cant be assed to update and patch...

[AlexDenton]

You should. It makes the game alot better.

[Krieg]

does it has a multiplayer mode ? i think it doesn't so it sucks for me because it has no multiplayer mode

[AlexDenton]

doesnt have one, no

it would he amazingly laggy

[[E3]H!TM@N]

MP on DX2? Rofl, its like everyone running round on a 56k modem server with bloody eidoses