ms2de export problem

[LastEr]

Is there any way to import model from ms3d to dx without deformations?
Tried everything, and it is still deformed
I've made a lot of deco meshes and all are like this.
Example:



Tried scaling it up and down, setting meshmap scaling to 1, setting lodbias to high values, adding zerotex=1 to import line, everything Anyone please help


[btw, is zerotex value to disable lodbias, right? ]

[~DJ~]

Hmmm, I don't see any transformations in my meshes/models..


You sure you haven't done any bad option or what?


Have you tried importing a normal cylinder?

Import a normal cylinder, and then see if it goes like that, and post back again.

[clyzm]

If you have any animations, try disabling them (erasing them completely from the import codes.) Try removing zerotex = 1, try setting LODBias to negative values (this makes it sharper) and try adding this line into your mesh imports:

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#exec MESH LODPARAMS MESH=<name> STRENGTH=0

If none of these work, its probably due to MS2DE itself.

[LastEr]

Nothing helps, negative lodbias is even worse

Tried everything youve said, will try importing cylinder

What about 3ds2de, can i use it with .max .3ds exported from 3dsmax 5?

[clyzm]

Nothing helps, negative lodbias is even worse

Tried everything youve said, will try importing cylinder

What about 3ds2de, can i use it with .max .3ds exported from 3dsmax 5?

Yeh, it's possible.

It's weird though, when I import decos with ms2de it doesn't do deformations... Even a drum set that I imported, that was 1500+ polys. It only deforms when animated...

[LastEr]

maybe i have wrong[old?] version of msDeusExExport.dll ?

My milkshape is 1.7.8[the newest is 1.8.5 ]

And about dll:

[btw, look at the red marked text, is it possible? o.0]

My meshes are all deformed, but some are just a lil, and other are completely f*cked.

Once ive imported a mesh with ~4000 polys and was almost perfect

[clyzm]

I have 1.8.1. Would it help if I could send you my copy of the .dll ?

[LastEr]

Ill be thankful

[clyzm]

Here it is.

[LastEr]

Thanks very much. Your version is 12 seconds newer Will test soon.

And what milkshape version do you use?

[Dae]

I have 1.8.1.

[LastEr]

Erm... ok

I've tested and still the same. Could you test converting it with your ms3d?

I've attached three of my models that are deformed. Look at the bolts and car lights after converting

[Allan]

It's weird though, when I import decos with ms2de it doesn't do deformations... Even a drum set that I imported, that was 1500+ polys. It only deforms when animated...

It's this very problem I've been grappling with for years. D:

[clyzm]

Can't specifically help you (my copy of DX doesn't work) but from what I've gathered in Milkshape, these meshes are too large. Try scaling them down to smaller size, then export and see if it helps. If it appears small in-game, make it bigger via Drawscale or meshmap size function.

Sorry, afraid I can't do much. Unless you wanted me to just convert it?

EDIT: Here. I made the models smaller and reversed the vertex order. Hope it helps your situation. (I did not edit the .uc btw)

[LastEr]

Damn, still the same, thx anyway


btw what is the difference between v1.112f and v1.112fm? I'm not sure which i've installed

I think it's time to meet 3ds2de

[clyzm]

If you want, I could convert those models with 3ds2de for you, save you some trouble

[Dae]

btw what is the difference between v1.112f and v1.112fm? I'm not sure which i've installed

'm' stands for multiplayer

[LastEr]

Will be fine to see difference, i will trust 3ds2de if i see any of these three models in briliant quality

Is there any step-by-step tutorial for 3ds2de? [not the Tack's one :s]
Once i tried to use it but ive got strange errors and resigned [i cant do anything in 3ds, it's too hard for me]
Is it possible to import models with multiple multiskins with it? Almost every my mesh has at least two, because of small 256x256 limit :\

'm' stands for multiplayer

erm, so there's no difference for me if i got goty version?

[clyzm]

Is there any step-by-step tutorial for 3ds2de? [not the Tack's one :s]

http://www.dxediting.com/tutorials.php?tutorial=35
http://www.dxediting.com/tutorials.php?tutorial=37

Is it possible to import models with multiple multiskins with it? Almost every my mesh has at least two, because of small 256x256 limit :\

Yes, its possible. You can have up to 10 (which will read as 0-9 in code) Btw, 256 x 256 isn't the limit. There can be meshes with much larger textures provided they follow powers of two (the new OpenGL famously rendered a 1024 x 1024 image and higher)

I'll work on importing those models for you.

[LastEr]

I know about the new opengl renderer, once i've tested it, bigger screen resolution was working, but textures higher than 256x256 was still scaled down :/ I'm planning to test it after format, but backup of my data is taking days, so i can't mobilize

Ok, i'm trying the 3ds2de, we'll see

I like working on cinema4d or milkshape, can i just export model from one of these and import without opening 3ds?

Once i tried to do something with multiple textures in 3ds, understood nothing and closed this shit

(DO NOT change the scale, if the model is too big or too small use "drawscale=" in the Default properties section)

I wonder why...


EDIT:
OMG just successfully imported this:


I'm shocked because smoothing is working even on texture seams, not like in milkshape converted models



big thx maet, now i must learn how to import model with more than one tex, aand find out how to do sharp edge, because 3ds2de ignores milkshape's smoothing groups

[clyzm]

I like working on cinema4d or milkshape, can i just export model from one of these and import without opening 3ds?

Well yeah, as long as it doesn't have animations.

[~DJ~]

Why I have a feeling that your making a cool map :$

[LastEr]

...I really don't like animating
Only animating the switches and other small things, that can be made in ms3d.

One day i will learn 3ds, but not now

cool map :$

something bigger than map

[~DJ~]

A whole new conversion?


Gametype? :O

[LastEr]

...zomg
just another sp mod

[~DJ~]

I guessed right!


gimme moneh now!



Anyways, good luck!

[LastEr]

it already took 3 years
yah, i need luck

[LastEr]

Alright, ive done some models and imported successfully with 3ds2de, BUT
today i decided to make a little more.

I've made the new tap in c4d

Then splitted to 2 groups and exported to 3ds.
Then I've imported it to the 3dsmax5 and animated.

I've two files - one for each animation[opening and closing]

I knew that it will fail, but i tried to convert it with 3ds2de.
I saw that:


Tried scaling it down, and bad coordinate lines disappeared:


But it still skips the animated group and imports only unanimated part:


I don't know what to do because i don't work in 3ds and im totally noobish in it. It took me few hours to find out how to do that simple animation.

ANYONE PLEASE HEEEELP

I've attached the files, but tbh i don't want someone to do it instead of me, but explain me how to fix it myself, because i will have the same problem with every model

[clyzm]

Have you made your animation frames into duplicates of the model via snapshot method?

[LastEr]

erm?
I've imported model, made opening animation, saved, reset, imported model, made closing animation and saved second file
What is snapshot method?

update xd:

i spent few days at meeting with 3dsmax and teh faucet is ready, anims are working, zero deformations

And btw, i found out how to import model with multiple texs