Deus Ex Alpha

Does anybody have time to teach me how to map ?
i would be very grateful

thanks

To be honest, if I had time I'd rather spend it on doing some releases.

Oh and people say "teach me mapping" when they're not enough interested in this process

Avenger wrote:Does anybody have time to teach me how to map ?
i would be very grateful

thanks

http://www.planetdeusex.com/tack/
Was a great help for me.

Jesus alex you always swoop in and help in my hour of need i am grateful

thanks!

tack made a great tutorial.
helped me to map too

tack was brilliant, but the thing that really helps your mapping is just pissing about on SDK or UnrealEd...making really easy and simple maps...publicly testing them to find out what is wrong, and then trying to better that map with ur next one...

OR, ATTEMPT TO MAKE A HILL.

A nice round looking hill.

That made me cry. =(

Polycount: FFS As if i could be arsed writing out all those numbers...

It would go along thos lines wouldnt it, and then your computer would commit suicide..

AgentSmyth wrote:tack was brilliant, but the thing that really helps your mapping is just pissing about on SDK or UnrealEd...making really easy and simple maps...publicly testing them to find out what is wrong, and then trying to better that map with ur next one...

Same as I did, but when you first start mapping you can only really make basic shapes anyway!

I wanted a teacher. It gave me lemon-lime!

Proto mate, would it hurt you at all to stick to the damn topic!?

Avenger, if you want one to one help, my msn address is in my signature

I will help as wel...cuz i remember how frustrating it is...i still feel like that with scripting...PM me if interested

I wanted a teacher. It gave me lemon-lime!

lmao

rofl @ topic date >_>

lol I remember when I first started mapping... taught myself, crashed the sdk myself... Broke several maps in which I never could open again all by myself.. hmm with that in mind, I'm going to PM Avenger my msn, in case he needs any extra help.. lol

Steve Tack is full of win.

If he did a full MP mapping tutorial, I would worship him as God.

Due to the fact that he never got into DXMP, he'd be on a par to us anyway.

Jon wrote:Proto mate, would it hurt you at all to stick to the damn topic!?

Avenger, if you want one to one help, my msn address is in my signature

Old, But I thought I did :S.

By making a hill I meant in UED..

Jon wrote:Due to the fact that he never got into DXMP, he'd be on a par to us anyway.

I would have just said 'touché' to that, but then it'd have been a one-word post and I would've got another useless warning.

Tack's guide is useful for learning how to make SP and learn the editor too.
Godz NC wrote a beginner's mappers MP checklist which, in conjunction with Tack, is what got me a map that player could join and fight and not laugh too much at it, but even then I did not really learn anything until a lot of maps got hosted and I found out for myself what players want and don't want. What is obvious to you, might be a map secret to someone else. Some DX players seem to be brains=mammal, some bore very easily, the majority of players like small maps, but there is a large minority too of people who enjoy a DX adventure map too. Play the map from every angle and see if you have made sniper/ambush points , given enough time/distance to spwn etc...test the gameplay more than anything before you host... check every tool, door etc.. will it work for 1 v 1 and 10 v 10? etc...

Jon, Chris, Allan, Max, Mainman etc and Magus at dxms.co.uk and also Vodunloas and [A]members seem to be the most knowledgeable and accomplished, with regards to the editor and MP mapping...you couldn't be in better hands... the things improved my mapping was:

being hosted by FGS a lot
being a member of DXMS/ user of the forums
Dedicating myself to improving at mapping - like Dae said...
and listening to the players...

Hmm... I might even check this out myself, lol. Though I myself, work better by fucking around with SDK (or any other sort of toolset kind of program) or working with someone one on one. I don't like reading a bunch of tutorials only having to write notes because I'll forget what the tut said and then once done that forget I wrote the goddamn notes.

The only ONE tutorial I've EVER read (and wrote the whole damn thing on paper, all 20 pages of it lol) was an HTML Tutorial. The only other tuts I read are Photoshop ones as I the difference with them, is that I can attempt them while reading the tut.

I've always wondered what intelligence=mammal, intelligence=animal, intelligence=robot actually did :S

yeah Ive only ever read the Tack, Godz, dxms sound and embed tutorials...

Mammals/Humans is curious... cos combat and flee and raise alarm and stuff is sorted elsewhere in properties, so this i would like to know too lol...

-[A]Hitman- wrote:I've always wondered what intelligence=mammal, intelligence=animal, intelligence=robot actually did :S

It seems to determine behavioural patterns. Like if you hide from an animal, it will clear off, hide from a human, it'll keep looking.

In all honesty, this is something i'll be looking into.

ShadowRunner wrote:Jon, Chris, Allan, Max, Mainman etc and Magus at dxms.co.uk and also Vodunloas and [A]members seem to be the most knowledgeable and accomplished, with regards to the editor and MP mapping...

I'm not in DXMS mate.

Everyone is in DXMS.

If I had my way, you wouldn't be. MM would be welcome, of course.

-[A]Hitman- wrote:I've always wondered what intelligence=mammal, intelligence=animal, intelligence=robot actually did :S

AI in-game; accuracy and attentiveness contribute I think, but I'm no coder.

All you need to know to map when you start off is this button and copy/paste:

You sad-act.