[Debate] Aliasing

[Kaiden]

(Another debate, the previous one was on spawn killing)((http://www.dxalpha.co.uk/kb/debatable-i ... awnkilling))


This debate is to discuss Aliasing, the main topics of discussion are -

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

Do you ever alias?

Have you ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kicking a player who wouldn't rename etc)

This topic is a debate, you are entitled to your own opinion, but flamming will result in a topic clean and warnings applied. Use this post temple:


The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

-I feel that some may alias for a good reason, perhaps to avoid trouble or merely to just have a quiet game and not be spoken to lots.

Do you ever alias?

-I sometimes use Player to avoid "What is the admin password please!" I generally use different [A] names, but will always have [A]lpha in them, and most people know who I am.

Have you ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kicking a player who wouldn't rename etc)

-No, the most I have done is check their IP if they are causing trouble and won't change name.

[Siva]

I always Alias for various reasons, none of them important, but it's not exactly difficult to do it.

[Kaiden]

Why is that though? Should you not use your clan tag if you're not in a clan?

[{E.D.H}{FPS}HDD21]

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.
i feel that aliasing is good for when you want to play without talking or moderate your server in silence

Do i ever alias?
yes i do on my server to mederate in silence or to have a quiet game or if things get rough.
i change ip before i change name to an alias sometimes


Have i ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kick/banning a player who wouldn't rename)
nope i havnt i just check their ip/range and let em play on.

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[Siva]

Me and my fellow man (literally) decided to disband XII as it wasn't productive, this was a long time ago.

[ynnaD]

I have never aliased and don't ever plan to or feel the need to

[James]

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

-Well in my cases I've never really had a fighting reputation in the community so I don't need to hide from shame anyway, so when I play as my ordinary selection of names familiar to them I can do anything stupid I want because "Oh, its just James hahah", because that is my reputation as a lunatic. Many of a time I've aliased into a server to grief my own friends and do the things I would normally do, or even use a crossbow in 0-aug to be threatened. What I am trying to say is that with that name you have a status, if you choose to be anonymous or use a different name no one can recognize what you do and can bring out the worse in people to react to what they see as this random nobody.

Do you ever alias?

-Aye, I do it all the time. I used to have a different names to be called within the community as but if you ever see me officially it will be LTKJAY, but using aliases not affiliated with myself personally created different personas and expressed my creativity.

I'd also like to add that I can tell a player by his writing style, Alex is proof because if he speaks to me as Player_whatnot, most of the time I'd reply to his sentence and drop off a ", Alex.". By memorizing writing styles you can tell who is who if they ever speak...or have a good guess.

Have you ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kicking a player who wouldn't rename etc)

-Yes, and its always came back to me, this is the biggest con. I've actually been kicked by my own clan members before ironically.

[~UnwAnteD~]

Its understandable if u want a quiet game, or to improve in a different game type, say ATDM.
But, I thought the whole point of being in a clan was to wear the tag and ur name?
Its all pointless, just people who are insecure.

[Mr. Tastix]

Honestly, I see no problem in people aliasing. I've never been victim to the Player alias and never have used it willingly. I also find it unfair to ban someone for refusing to change their name, that's just fucking stupid.

So what? It's now illegal and/or unfair to have a Player alias or several aliases now? Some people DO use aliasing to get away from their position, ranking or fame. Others use it as they're new and dunno how to change. And as long as neither break the rules of the server, then why should they be banned?

[~ River ~]

Hmph....I thinks that aliasing is okay as long as you tell people who you are.

[James]

Yeah Dae's good at that Often emotes or certain sayings can give a person away, Dae new I was Player when I said "Hmph" (reply: "I knew it was you cause you're my only friend who says Hmph) hehe.

People always guess wrong with me, even when I ask them "do you know who I am?" hahaha.

[Zantinzuken]

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

Pro's: When you're beaten by the best, you know its the best. You at least know it's someone good, that's why people ask you to unalias, because they can't stand the fact they might have gotten beaten by a new Player who doesn't know how to change his/her name yet.

Con's: A con of disallowing aliases, everyone will think you're an insecure clown who can't handle not knowing who he's playing. The problem with having such a small community is that "aliasing" is actually an issue. I don't have to bring up the likes of CSS for people to know what I'm talking about.

Do you ever alias?

For the past 2-3 years. I prefer to stay unknown as I'd rather not get into deep conversations whilst playing. Although, I do love going into a certain server where aliasing is disallowed by a certain admin. People used to come up to me and ask why should I alias when I'm in one of the most prestigious clans in DX (both [V] and [N])? Grief mainly. I get bucket loads of it off nobodies who think they're somebodies. However I'm not the type to go a whole game destroying another team then unalias at the end to show off, that shit is weak.

Have you ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kicking a player who wouldn't rename etc)

Never. On [V] server it was pretty free roam on the subject, we didn't care. The only difference between then and now? Back then if you called someone a "noob" you'd be banned without question. Now it's common courtesy after a death.

Little team killer jay running about area 51 team killing the irish

[~[R2K]D-BLOCK~]

Only Alias when you are watching your server. No need to alias for the rest.

[synthetic]

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

Allows you to play as a clean sheet given that the frequents of the server recognize your "true" name.
Allows you to perform better for some psychological reason. May not be the case for everybody, and will probably only work if the first point is true.
Allows you to play your strategy out better against the enemy, because experienced players can put name and style and counter-style together.
Allows you to.. stay anonymous to avoid getting spammed by different topics you may be too tired to deal with.

If you are in a clan, you may well upset your clanmembers and/or leader.
If you are in a clan you are not truely representing your clan unless you display the name at some point (end).
You may upset your mates by playing with/against them without their knowledge, possibly without replying to anything.

Do i ever alias?
I alias often and I alias a lot. I had a longer period out of the blue where I didnt alias. That passed as suddenly as it came. If some annoying tit complains about aliasers i will simply state: "I never alias."


Have i ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kick/banning a player who wouldn't rename)
No.

If I have demanded an alias to show their name and have banned them while they are aliased (which may very likely be true) then it is because no matter what name they will show me, or what ever name they may have, they have already earned it. So such demands would depend on the curiosity of who I am banning, not banning because I dont know who I am playing.

[Baleout]

The Pro's and Contra of disallowing aliases.

- I understand that people sometimes Alias to just have a quiet game etc. However, it can be annoying when someone makes a point about being under alias, bragging etc. I know a few people who try to keep up or make a reputation by entering a server under alias, and then revealing themselves if they are getting a good score. This is a bit off I feel, it could show you up as having low confidence and/or not having the skill you appear to have. It sometimes annoys me when I suspect a player is someone I know under alias.

Do you ever alias?

- I occasionally alias when I feel like talking to people as if I don't know them, seeing if they act differently etc. It's just something different and interesting to do. Sometimes also just as a joke with friends in a server, I might change my name or alter it a bit. (Failout etc).

Have you ever used admin power against an aliased player? (Kicking a player who wouldn't rename etc)

- No, I wouldn't mind. However if they are being a nuisance; spamming, teamkilling etc, I would try to get their real name.[/quote]

[synthetic]

However, it can be annoying when someone makes a point about being under alias, bragging etc.

I agree, such behavior is lame, cowardice even. Especially if they go further and claim how you are shit or how your clan is, while you have your name visible and they refuse to show theirs. Wimps =)

I know a few people who try to keep up or make a reputation by entering a server under alias, and then revealing themselves if they are getting a good score.

Often such behavior does not come down to only to trying to create some sort of reputation. Players often want to be left alone and just want to have a game, and showing the name in the end allows you to represent yourself and your clan after successful quiet game, thus negating some of the negative sides of aliasing in general. Nothing wrong there.

It sometimes annoys me when I suspect a player is someone I know under alias.

Everybody knows everybody in this game.

[Baleout]

Not all the new players who don't go on any forums etc.

Or are they all aliased people O_O

[-TheSpecialist-]

Pros

Allows the quick game to occur, without caring too much of the score.
Play any way you want, without people knowing you.
Just to enter a server and do the things that aren't normal. (IE - Darts for the whole match )
Simply prevents all the new players who enjoy [A] maps from asking you questions.

Cons

Aliasing in general means you aren't confident in the way you play (augs).
Won't be as consistent, probably lower kill/death ratio.

As of late, I haven't been playing. This is partly due to the machine I have, and studies. When I did play though, I played with a name that people recognize and associate with. (IE) ~[A]Osborne~.
I noticed that I played consistently well, and had no trouble in facing people who were better than myself in ATDM. I've even reached a point in my time playing dxmp, that scores no longer matter. Last SS I took was probably in 2006.

What's even funnier is that when I know the people in the server I tend to be more relaxed and so forth. Then we all decide that making a fortress out of crates is the goal when the players in the server are new to the game. Happened often.

[Artin]

The Pro's and Contra of aliases.

Pros

The thing is, there may be a number of reasons to alias. It can range anywhere from trying to avoid being thought of as bad in the game, to trying to prevent someone from recognizing you (Don't want to talk, etc). Or, it can be just to test a few things in-game, such as new weapons. It also allows for the game to seem more fun IMO, since you won't care as much for the score. None of these do anything to tarnish the in-game play, so it shouldn't really matter.

Cons

There are not too many Cons, although I can name a few. The most common one though is if you're in a clan, and it doesn't help the clan if most of their members are always aliasing in-game. The second most common con, is when you're doing good against someone who gets frustrated easily, and needs to justify their poor score. This can lead to many things, such as bannings, or them flaming you, etc.

Do you ever alias?

Not usually, but at times, i will, if I'm doing inadequate that day, or going up against someone i know who's better than me. Or, there may some other miscellaneous reasons, such as I know i'm going to let a friend play somewhere through the middle, etc.

[Tonnochi]

I think that with the recent impersonation issue, aliasing is necessary. It gets odd though when you see a member of a clan but you don't know if he's aliasing or if he's an impersonator.

[NightRaver]

Im a book of secrets.

Ill alias to kill grubby and let him turn into a monster that screams so hard..


and flames at me.

[synthetic]

Aliasing in general means you aren't confident in the way you play (augs).
Won't be as consistent, probably lower kill/death ratio.

While it depends on individual and circumstances, I still have to disagree on both counts.

[rob]

i sometimes alias, but i usually use some kind of [N] tag (like kaiden). i think some people alias when there skills are low, so not to downgrade their status. i know i have sometimes...
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[Cyrus]

Pros

Lets you play in peace and quiet. No lick arses annoying you, no dopes talking rubbish to you and the list goes on.

Cons

Gets you banned.


Do you ever alias?

When I do play I pretty do it all the time it's not because I'm bad or afarid of a bad score. It just makes it easier to play a quick game here and there and just get on with the game without fools annoying you through the hole match.

[Kaiden]

I have never aliased and don't ever plan to or feel the need to

So you've never played as Player, ever?

[ynnaD]

I have never aliased and don't ever plan to or feel the need to

So you've never played as Player, ever?

As a default name, i don't see that as an alias

[synthetic]

Cons

Gets you banned.

what servers you been playing on

[Baleout]

I have never aliased and don't ever plan to or feel the need to

So you've never played as Player, ever?

As a default name, i don't see that as an alias

An alias is any name that is not your usual one that you use to hide your identity.

[Zantinzuken]

Cons

Gets you banned.

what servers you been playing on

He's referring to the RTK one.

[ynnaD]

I have never aliased and don't ever plan to or feel the need to

So you've never played as Player, ever?

As a default name, i don't see that as an alias

An alias is any name that is not your usual one that you use to hide your identity.

But when i started DX i was given the name Player, and i changed it to 007, only time i have ever changed it was to 0o7, i changed the middle 0 to a o, but as player was the name given to me, it's not technically an alias