Deus Ex MultiPlayer is almost dead :(

[Bob]

Augs is DXMP

0-augs is a random shooter.

[Snakey]

So you're saying Augs are what give DXMP its individuality and make it different from other FPSs?

[Splitter]

If you really want a 0 aug game, go play Camper Strike or anyone of the other million of lame shoot and die games. DXMP is augs, without them it is reduced to a 2nd rate FPS with bad network code and bugs

[Snakey]

Good Point.

[clyzm]

Bah, mortal auggers. Non-augs rules, it's fun to shoot around with your teammates. Augs cause more lag and usually is annoying. Zero augs is for the more skilled DX shooters. It depends on shooting. Augs is for fun, non-augs is for seriousness.

FIN

[Bob]

That one may cause an uproar Derek.

[clyzm]

Oopsie.... well here's the bottom line:


Augs own.

0 Augs own m o

Augs is for fun and it's tactical.

0 Augs is for serious matches and GG's.


re

[-TheSpecialist-]

Oopsie.... well here's the bottom line:


Augs own.

0 Augs own m o

Augs is for fun and it's tactical.

0 Augs is for serious matches and GG's.


re

Actually augs are for serious games, i fool around in non augs alot and find a way to be the best in the server when playing augs.
DX= Augs+Skills+Tactics>Non Augs+Boring Sniper Duels

[Splitter]

Bah, mortal auggers. Non-augs rules, it's fun to shoot around with your teammates. Augs cause more lag and usually is annoying. Zero augs is for the more skilled DX shooters. It depends on shooting. Augs is for fun, non-augs is for seriousness.

FIN

Sorry for the slightly off topic-ness but this does need ending. Augs does not cause any more lag ffs.
Also "Zero augs is for the more skilled DX shooters"?!?
Get any aug'er and put him in a zero aug server with people who have played 0 aug for the same amount of time as he has aug'ed and I guarentee you that the aug'er will win dispite having never played 0 aug. It's hardly skillful when you shoot someone moving at a snail-pace in the torso and kill them with 5 random shots now is it. I mean ffs, 0 aug rewards not being able to aim, by making aiming for the head suicide since the other player from just spraying his shots at your torso and feet will probably kill you. What's more difficult? Hitting someone in the head as they fly through the sky with a speed aided jump or htting someone moving slooowly side to side crouching occasionally. Play some augs with some vets and see what a real test of skill and aim it is
Even the title of this thread is ironic when reading that post : /

FIN

[clyzm]

Excuse me? 0 augs isn't just ducking and shooting, moving so fucking slow. In fact, Halo sniper is better than Deus Ex sniper because in Deus Ex it's hard to get a decent headshot when someone's jumping crazy-like. Deus Ex is by far the most hardest game to get a headshot with a sniper. It's not just 'oo i shoot u in head you die super fast' it involves more training. And Augs DO cause more lag, I was in DCSB and i normally dont recieve lag, I entered and it was augs. So i played for a bit till some guy showed up and killed a lot of people. Now that he was using augs like speedy legs silent feet and stuff like that. My ping was 353, before it was just 129.

And augs are a lot more annoying if you ask me, augs is for competition. 0 augs is for sharing the ownage, meaning he kills you and you kill him. How can you kill someone and share the ownage by that guy just jumping around, throwing lams and cloaking?

[Splitter]

Deus Ex may be the hardest game to get a headshot with a sniper, but that doesn't change the fact that after about 6 month it's just as easy as any other game. Sniping in augs requires a lot more skill and being able to judge the lead exactly due to the quicker pace of gameplay.
And about the 'lag' augs cause...you clearly were either downloading something or maybe you were using a piece of string to connect to the net as augs does not cause any more lag, and especially not anywhere near the increase you mentioned.

augs is for competition

I thought you said 0 aug was for serious games and augs were for fun o_O
Finally about the random statement made about 'sharing the ownage' (wtf) it's quite clear that either you've never put any time into trying to learn to aug (Dae's comment of " Folks prefer CS-like games where everything is simple as fucking: just press the left mouse pointing on a player, kill, and type lol" comes to mind) If the guy is cloaking, get vision, if he's throwing lams, use speed or energy shield You make it sound like augs are a completely one sided form of gameplay when in fact all they do are remove the element of luck that 0 augs and games like CS have

[Ricci]

ty u splitter u posted everything i was going to except i would of cussed a lot more

.. Any "pro/1337/pwnage" 0 augger wanna play me in a 1 vs 1 we can have 0 augs and then augs who ever has the most kills wins... since you 0 aug u guys should be able to own me wit accuracy right?.. i will play on euro but dont forget that i am from usa.

[Ricci]

i will even show u the skill difrence.. grab 6 of your best friends and play me in augs.. a 6 vs 1.

[clyzm]

Deus Ex may be the hardest game to get a headshot with a sniper, but that doesn't change the fact that after about 6 month it's just as easy as any other game.

First of all, it doesn't take 6 months to just quit DX. There are loads of players who played for 1 or more years.

:roll: Sniping in augs requires a lot more skill and being able to judge the lead exactly due to the quicker pace of gameplay.

True but that doesn't differ from 0 augs - the speed maybe not, but the pointing and the looking. Sniping is an art - you are as the hawk, the victim is your prey. It is very complicated. Augs may be quick and fast paced, but people prefer 0 augs because its slow paced and you can SEE the people shooting you.

And about the 'lag' augs cause...you clearly were either downloading something or maybe you were using a piece of string to connect to the net

No I'm afraid not, I have a modem and I live in USA, DCSB is hosted in UK correct? I receive no lag there unless some sort of unfortunate accident.

augs does not cause any more lag, and especially not anywhere near the increase you mentioned.

Augs DOES cause more lag, the explosions from ADS. It may not with one person, but with 8 people using different augs at once? That would cause lag.

I thought you said 0 aug was for serious games and augs were for fun o_O

They are also to see if one person is better or not using a different skill or tactic.

Finally about the random statement made about 'sharing the ownage' (wtf)

Means if one person is killing people, the others would as well.

it's quite clear that either you've never put any time into trying to learn to aug

Bah, I've been auging for 2 months, it was nonsensical and boring so I quit.

(Dae's comment of " Folks prefer CS-like games where everything is simple as fucking: just press the left mouse pointing on a player, kill, and type lol" comes to mind)

Augs does cause more individuality in DX, but most games have at least one individuality. For example, SOF II gives you the ability to fire from two modes. And actually, it's not just 'shoot and say lol', don't you know that? Star Trek doesn't have any augs, and it's a complicated FPS. In DX, it's not that simple. People prefer to shoot the enemy without anything like cloaking and jumping five feet high.

If the guy is cloaking, get vision, if he's throwing lams, use speed or energy shield

That's a complete waste of time

You make it sound like augs are a completely one sided form of gameplay when in fact all they do are remove the element of luck that 0 augs and games like CS have

You make 0 augs sound like luck, shoot and say lol. It's not, please try to understand, 0 augs is very complicated. I'm not making augs sound like a one sided gameplay, I'm just saying that it's complicated TOO much and most people play it for fun.

ty u splitter u posted everything i was going to except i would of cussed a lot more

Cussing is for the weak-minded people who think their words affect the spirit of others.

Any "pro/1337/pwnage" 0 augger wanna play me in a 1 vs 1 we can have 0 augs and then augs who ever has the most kills wins

I didn't say that, now did I? If you hate 0 augs, then don't play it instead of making out outrageous but bullbunk comments. If you think augs is better than 0 augs, then DON'T PLAY 0 AUGS.

since you 0 aug u guys should be able to own me wit accuracy right?..

No, some people just like 0 augs and play it for sport. If you hate those people, then let me be the one to say WE DON'T GIVE A BUNK. So you can go ahead and waste your words, but if you don't like 0 auggers, then don't mind them, just play augs like you do.

i will play on euro but dont forget that i am from usa.

As am I. Don't try to make me seem meek by saying you'll play on euro server.

i will even show u the skill difrence.. grab 6 of your best friends and play me in augs.. a 6 vs 1.

Lighten up. It's just a game, not something to be over-confident and think you can kill 6 talented people.

AS CONCLUDED, if you like augs but don't like 0 augs, then play augs and pay no mind to 0 augs. If you like 0 augs but don't like augs, then play 0 augs and ignore augs.

If you wish to cuss or stubborningly disagree with me, please do not repeat what splitter has just said.

PS - I don't play CS so I don't really know what's it like

[Ricci]

Augs may be quick and fast paced, but people prefer 0 augs because its slow paced and you can SEE the people shooting you.

have you even played augs? there is no way to be invisible and shoot someone.

No I'm afraid not, I have a modem and I live in USA, DCSB is hosted in UK correct? I receive no lag there unless some sort of unfortunate accident.

you are full of shit.

Augs DOES cause more lag, the explosions from ADS. It may not with one person, but with 8 people using different augs at once? That would cause lag.

using an aug does not take up more bandwidth. that is like saying that switching a weapon will lagg the server. You need to learn the difrence between your fps and your ping.

I thought you said 0 aug was for serious games and augs were for fun o_O

[quote"vanish"]They are also to see if one person is better or not using a different skill or tactic.[/quote]

what about if i have 2 meds and you have 1 med in 0 augs because i ran to where a medkit is placed.. that wouldnt be a tactic?

Augs does cause more individuality in DX

not true at all if you played a clan match you would relize that you need atleast 1 guy starting with ads to pertect your team from being 20mm or gepped. 1 guy to use vision. maybe one guy to lockpick for everyone. 1 guy to grab the turrets. You need your riflers+knivers and then you also need you demolitioners that just 20mm and lam.

That's a complete waste of time

its also a complete waste of time to open up your server menu and select CUSTOM team deathmatch and then set everything to 0. Then open up your mtl readme and TURN OFF about half of the weapons.

You make 0 augs sound like luck.

it is luck. have you ever found yourself running towards a body saying "OMG I HOPE DIS BODY HAS A MED" and u get a med.. is that not luck?
now i know u are talking about aim and yes aim is luck in 0 augs all u have to do is spray anywhere and there is your kill. play augs if u spray anywhere u will do 0 damage.

Cussing is for the weak-minded people who think their words affect the spirit of others.

thats a very cute saying. go fuck yourself.

I didn't say that, now did I? If you hate 0 augs, then don't play it instead of making out outrageous but bullbunk comments. If you think augs is better than 0 augs, then DON'T PLAY 0 AUGS.

you guys killed Deus Ex and made it a want to be counterstrike fps game. 0 augs is not deus ex of course i am going to be mad that u guys are recruiting all of the players into 0 augs because the newbs see how easy it is to kill in 0 augs so they play there.

As am I. Don't try to make me seem meek by saying you'll play on euro server.

was i talking to you? did i say vanish dont make me play in a euro server because i am a usa'er? and yes there are euro players that might of wanted to play me.

Lighten up. It's just a game, not something to be over-confident and think you can kill 6 talented people.

if those 6 players were your friends it would most likly be 0 auggers. so no i would not consider any of your friends talented because they played 0 augs. no offense to 0 auggers.

PS - I don't play CS so I don't really know what's it like

i think you should, maybe it will help your realize that 0 augs is a retarded rip off with loads of bugs.

[Jeoh]

godamn settle down u dont have to get all excited its just a game. SHEEEESSSH!!!

[Amme]

Augs is skill, pure skill.

All you do in 0 augs is to run around and snipe and rape ppl with your teammates. In augs you cantake on several people at once without dying in one sec.

0 aug is all about ping and how much medkits you have.

And everything that Ricci said is true.

[clyzm]

have you even played augs? there is no way to be invisible and shoot someone.

He could sneak UP on you.

you are full of shit.

Blow me

using an aug does not take up more bandwidth. that is like saying that switching a weapon will lagg the server. You need to learn the difrence between your fps and your ping.

And you need to learn your manners

what about if i have 2 meds and you have 1 med in 0 augs because i ran to where a medkit is placed.. that wouldnt be a tactic?

Nope, that's just saying you have more meds

not true at all if you played a clan match you would relize that you need atleast 1 guy starting with ads to pertect your team from being 20mm or gepped.

Thats why EVERYONE just gets out a random aug and kills anyone they jump on

1 guy to use vision. maybe one guy to lockpick for everyone. 1 guy to grab the turrets. You need your riflers+knivers and then you also need you demolitioners that just 20mm and lam.

Now that is just dumb right there.

its also a complete waste of time to open up your server menu and select CUSTOM team deathmatch and then set everything to 0. Then open up your mtl readme and TURN OFF about half of the weapons.

You like 20mm? And another thing - augs are a COMPLETE waste of my time - you get no skill whatsoever from them, oh w0w0w0w0w0, i use speed and i use cloaking and w0w0w0w i get so much skill NOT .... augs is just boring for some people, and 0 augs is what they prefer. If you hate them then go screw yourself.

it is luck. have you ever found yourself running towards a body saying "OMG I HOPE DIS BODY HAS A MED" and u get a med.. is that not luck?

That is not luck. That is seeing if he has a med or not. That's called a tool, look it up in the dictionary. 0 augs aren't about meds you know. People gain a lot of skill from 0 augs.

now i know u are talking about aim and yes aim is luck in 0 augs all u have to do is spray anywhere and there is your kill. play augs if u spray anywhere u will do 0 damage.

NO IT IS NOT because in 0 augs they can use a medkit, shoot you, and use a medkit again. It uses your aiming as a main tool and the meds as your secondary. Augs is just "OOOOO I JUMP IN AIRE AND I SHOOT U WOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWO I FIGHT WIT U AND U DUNT DIE WOWOWOWOWO" ... pfft waste of time.

thats a very cute saying. go fuck yourself.

No thanks, it would be better if you jumped off a cliff

you guys killed Deus Ex and made it a want to be counterstrike

You auggers killed DX because you make it seem like Star Trek games.

0 augs is not deus ex of course

Listen closely now. 0 AUGS IS PURE SKILL OF DX. AUGS IS TRICKS OF DX AND COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR FUN.

i am going to be mad that u guys are recruiting all of the players into 0 augs because the newbs see how easy it is to kill in 0 augs so they play there.

Cute, dumbass. You didn't know that augs attract the noobs because they like the tricks? You didn't know that in a single aug server, there's about 14 new people?

was i talking to you? did i say vanish dont make me play in a euro server because i am a usa'er? and yes there are euro players that might of wanted to play me.

Might've*. Try using next grammar next time.

if those 6 players were your friends it would most likly be 0 auggers. so no i would not consider any of your friends talented because they played 0 augs. no offense to 0 auggers.

I don't consider how anyone using augs is talented. Sorry auggers, but I just think that because augs are nothing but tricks and competing against each other for fun. Now think about that before you post.

i think you should, maybe it will help your realize that 0 augs is a retarded rip off with loads of bugs.

Augs gives more bugs than 0 augs you should know. More GPFs. Like you said, but I'll say it in this manner: Augs is a complete dumb waste of time playing around with noobs.

Augs is skill, pure skill.

All you do in 0 augs is to run around and snipe and Suprise Sex ppl with your teammates. In augs you cantake on several people at once without dying in one sec

0 Augs is pure skill because it doesn't involve any trickery or anything. It's pure fight, no tricks. Augs is just wowowowo i turn on aug and i kill people and i say lol.

And no, 0 augs means that you use medbots, medkits, lockpicks. You don't just run around and shoot and snipe.

And everything that Ricci said is true.

You mean false.

Since you won't listen to what I have to say then let me do it in big font:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE 0 AUGS THEN DON'T PLAY IT
IF YOU DON'T LIKE AUGS THEN DON'T PLAY IT

Anyone failing to understand that should never play DX.

[Splitter]

He could sneak UP on you.

The use vision ffs, can you not comprehend that for every aug there is a counter aug...

Nope, that's just saying you have more meds

Going out of your way to pick up medkits so you have a better chance you survive a fight is called a tactic, got that. Just like going around the other side of Smuggler to flank the other team

Thats why EVERYONE just gets out a random aug and kills anyone they jump on

Erm wtf...what the hell are you on about, people don't flip coins as to which aug they will use and the killing anyone you jump on/find, isn't that just like 0 aug? Or do you not shoot the other team when you see one of them

Now that is just dumb right there.

Seriously, your posts are some of the most ironic and moronic I have ever come across. So you're saying that planning out your attack is stupid and everyone should just go running blindly into clan wars without any plan or premeditated thoughts?

You like 20mm? And another thing - augs are a COMPLETE waste of my time - you get no skill whatsoever from them, oh w0w0w0w0w0, i use speed and i use cloaking and w0w0w0w i get so much skill NOT

Firstly, in augs 20mm rounds are completely fine, ADS takes care of them, the only reason they and heavy weapons are looked down on in 0 aug is that there is no way to counter them and you can't move fast enough to get away from them, same with LAM's.
And about the not getting any skill from augs, as I said before, any aug'er of the same skill level in augs as a 0 aug'er has in 0 aug will completely obliterate the 0 aug'er in 0 aug in fair circumstances, now you can't tell me that you don't gain any skill from augs. for example I remember one particular match between Trollied (One of the best 0 aug'ers to ever have played this game) and [3]Monkee (One of the best aug'ers to have played this game, who hadn't played for about 6 months prior and even then didn't play much 0 aug) and guess what! Monkee won! By quite a margin. However due to your train of thought he must've been aimobotting or something since augs, like you said, provides no skill

You auggers killed DX because you make it seem like Star Trek games.

Maybe I should go and get a few old DX'ers to beat some sense into you, as that is probably the most stupid thing mentioned in all of your posts. 0 augs did not come with the mulitplayer patch, Smuggler made it avaliable with the MTL patch and soon after that patch the Multiplayer began to decline as the new players to the game player 0 augs as they were not willing to learn what real DXMP was like, meaning that when the vets of the game left, there was no one to carry on the augging tradition leaving us in the state we are today

Cute, dumbass. You didn't know that augs attract the noobs because they like the tricks? You didn't know that in a single aug server, there's about 14 new people?

Thats the thing though there is only one maybe two augged servers around at any time and they are normally when some new player to game didn't know how to set 0 augs, meaning that many people think augs are about GEP noobs on laggy servers

I don't consider how anyone using augs is talented. Sorry auggers, but I just think that because augs are nothing but tricks and competing against each other for fun. Now think about that before you post.

Oh my god, that is absolutely and utterly incorrect, how about I get you some demorecs of good players augging and you can compare their 'lack of talent' to a demo of even the best 0 augger

[Jeoh]

Derek, you make me want to smash your brains in with an ashtray. A burning, solid stone ashtray.

[Amme]

He could sneak UP on you.

Like you can't do that on 0 augs? the only diffrence is that you are dead in 2 secs in 0 aug.

["Ricci"]you are full of shit.

We are thinking in the same ways about him, Ricci.

"Vanish"Now that is just dumb right there.

Obviously, you don't know what you are talking about, Vanish.

That is not luck. That is seeing if he has a med or not. That's called a tool, look it up in the dictionary. 0 augs aren't about meds you know. People gain a lot of skill from 0 augs.

Again, You don't know what you are Talking about.

now i know u are talking about aim and yes aim is luck in 0 augs all u have to do is spray anywhere and there is your kill. play augs if u spray anywhere u will do 0 damage.

NO IT IS NOT because in 0 augs they can use a medkit, shoot you, and use a medkit again. It uses your aiming as a main tool and the meds as your secondary. Augs is just "OOOOO I JUMP IN AIRE AND I SHOOT U WOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWO I FIGHT WIT U AND U DUNT DIE WOWOWOWOWO" ... pfft waste of time.

Yeah, meaning that if he has more medkits, he win. And don't you start babbling about " MY AIM MAY BE BETTER!!" because you both have full rifle skills so its not really hard to kill someone. As Ricci said, Spray and pray. ( Although you don't have to pray in this one.

No thanks, it would be better if you jumped off a cliff

Look who's talking.

You auggers killed DX because you make it seem like Star Trek games.

Dude you must be really retarded by saying that. PMSL.

Listen closely now. 0 AUGS IS PURE SKILL OF DX. AUGS IS TRICKS OF DX AND COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR FUN.

Litsten closely now. 0 AUGS IS NOTHING BUT PING AND MEDKITS, IN AUGS YOU CAN KILL ANYONE ANYWHERE, THOUGH IT MAY BE MORE OF A CHALLENGE IF HES STREAKED OR NOT.

Augs is skill, pure skill.

All you do in 0 augs is to run around and snipe and Suprise Sex ppl with your teammates. In augs you cantake on several people at once without dying in one sec

0 Augs is pure skill because it doesn't involve any trickery or anything. It's pure fight, no tricks. Augs is just wowowowo i turn on aug and i kill people and i say lol.

Do you have to say wowowowowo in every fucking reply?

And no, 0 augs means that you use medbots, medkits, lockpicks. You don't just run around and shoot and snipe.

In augs, you use EVERYTHING in the game, 0 Aug is just a "tone down" of augs because newbs like you can't handle augs.

And everything that Ricci said is true.

You mean false.

Since you won't listen to what I have to say then let me do it in big font:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE 0 AUGS THEN DON'T PLAY IT
IF YOU DON'T LIKE AUGS THEN DON'T PLAY IT

Anyone failing to understand that should never play DX.

Tell me something I don't know. I never saíd I disliked augs, Im just telling you the truth.

You can Accept it or fuck off.[/quote]

[Ricci]

Vanish what clan are you in? If you are in a clan the person who let you in is eithor really retarded or you founded it yourself.

[clyzm]

Seems to have you nitwits understand, I shall make it an even BIGGER font.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE AUGS, THEN DON'T PLAY IT AND PLAY 0 AUGS
IF YOU DON'T LIKE 0 AUGS, THEN DON'T PLAY IT AND PLAY AUGS

you dipshits never understand the morality of that ?

look its just a game, either side is fine with me, i don't give a shit i just play it for fun not to have dickweeds like you outrageous things to me and insulting my clan.

[Splitter]

We're not saying we don't like 0 aug, it's just that your point was that augs require absolutely no skill, that they are what killed DX and that 0 aug is the be all and end all of skill in this game

[clyzm]

Please read three posts above and continue reading from there.

Is that not insulting the art of 0 augs?

And one final thing: if you like augs, fine, play it, don't say "OOH AUGS OWN 0 AUGS".

*sigh* i wonder why i even come here

[Amme]

Because you have nothing else to do?

Welcome to the club mate.

[clyzm]

No ... I'm wondering why I come here ... I mean, I shouldn't come here because way too many tensions rise up between me and another person (i can name 4) .... i dunno why, I'm just stating something and all of a sudden some guy *cough* GJ *cough* gets in my face and starts saying all kinds of stuff about me ..

[Ricci]

Please read three posts above and continue reading from there.

Is that not insulting the art of 0 augs?

And one final thing: if you like augs, fine, play it, don't say "OOH AUGS OWN 0 AUGS".

*sigh* i wonder why i even come here

gg hiprocrates.

[Ricci]

0 augs did not come with the mulitplayer patch

gg vanish that just owns your whole reason for posting here. Now please delete your account.=\

[clyzm]

0 augs did not come with the mulitplayer patch

gg vanish that just owns your whole reason for posting here. Now please delete your account.=\

If you're going to be a dipshit, then please be one off these forums.

And the last time I remembered, even without MTL you can still choose if you don't want to have augs or not, hence the term 0 Augs.

PS - I'm trying to cool down the fight, and it seems the only thing you're doing is heating it up.