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Postby ~SaSQuAtCH~ » Wed Jan 07, 09 2:15 pm

Did you fight for Deus Ex, or did you fight for [A]lpha?
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Postby Dae » Wed Jan 07, 09 2:31 pm

Alpha is a part of Deus Ex, so we fought for both.

From another point of view, we couldn't have fought for Deus Ex without fighting for ourselves. :)
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Postby Jon » Wed Jan 07, 09 2:34 pm

I once gave Max the finger. Does that count as a meeting?
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Postby Siva » Wed Jan 07, 09 2:58 pm

Dae wrote:To act harsher? At least, since the server attacks...

No, I mean talk to the community about your dirty laundry.
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Postby ~SaSQuAtCH~ » Wed Jan 07, 09 2:59 pm

I mean did you rather support your own clan than the community?
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Postby Dae » Wed Jan 07, 09 3:03 pm

Part 3
  1. I made a site for Dejavu in 2003.
  2. DCSB didn't do anything for SlimLine and I made SlimLine on my own. I expected that they would help spread it around other game communities (so that's why I included them to the copyright), but it didn't happen.
  3. As I said a few months ago, Alpha used to sell all hacks including the aimbot. I didn't mention that price was 999'999 pounds, though ;)
  4. In some cases Alex took the blame for cheating/hacking of me & Nobody.
  5. I can say for sure that we were the last who learned the sniper rifle bug in CRD. Unfortunately it appeared that some players prefer silently abuse bugs, then accuse us in leaving the bugs on purpose.
  6. In 2006 there was a scandal when DCSB accused us in cheating "with admin abilities" at particular day and time on their server. I tried to investigate the issue, but DCSB refused to provide the name of a hacker, their IP or at least the logs. I repeated back then, I repeat now — we were not involved into that. Additionally our hacks can't mimic the admin abilities or fetch the admin login.
  7. I reported Dejavu to Slovenian police, they caught him and by the words of the investigator, Dejavu pleaded guilty even thought they found no proof on his computer. At the same time, the attacks stopped. The investigator sent me several emails asking to provide more proof to open the case against Dejavu, but I replied that I'd like to wait because I don't expect the guy to repeat it again. It was a mistake to let him go.
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Postby Alex » Wed Jan 07, 09 3:30 pm

Dae wrote:In 2006 there was a scandal when DCSB accused us in cheating "with admin abilities" at particular day and time on their server. I tried to investigate the issue, but DCSB refused to provide the name of a hacker, their IP or at least the logs. I repeated back then, I repeat now — we were not involved into that. Additionally our hacks can't mimic the admin abilities or fetch the admin login.

Small correction on that. I was able (and also did, on GODZ, on April 1st, as Aprils Fools joke) to mimic server messages, thus I could make it look as if someone talks through the server console (thus a server admin) and I could also make it look as if someone logs in as an administrator (By showing the message "X logged in as a server administrator.").
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Postby Dae » Wed Jan 07, 09 3:35 pm

DeathMaster wrote:I mean did you rather support your own clan than the community?

We and me personally supported ourselves as well as the community at the same time, and we did everything successfully. I don't see any contradiction, because I don't oppose the notion of "clan" against the notion of "community". Maybe that was true for [ARM] — not for Alpha though ;)

Protocol wrote:No, I mean talk to the community about your dirty laundry.

The idea came to me a month ago, but most of the things I said in this topic weren't really a secret, just noone asked before :)

There wasn't so much of a dirty laundry. It just sounds like that, because there are many people with good imagination, passion for conspiracies or just loving to spread bullshit.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Wed Jan 07, 09 3:48 pm

Dae wrote:Part 3

7. I reported Dejavu to Slovenian police, they caught him and by the words of the investigator, Dejavu pleaded guilty even thought they found no proof on his computer. At the same time, the attacks stopped. The investigator sent me several emails asking to provide more proof to open the case against Dejavu, but I replied that I'd like to wait because I don't expect the guy to repeat it again. It was a mistake to let him go.
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Wow

So I guess there was no need for me to go and beat him up then?
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Postby Mastakilla » Wed Jan 07, 09 4:35 pm

MrBlack wrote:
Dae wrote:Part 3

7. I reported Dejavu to Slovenian police, they caught him and by the words of the investigator, Dejavu pleaded guilty even thought they found no proof on his computer. At the same time, the attacks stopped. The investigator sent me several emails asking to provide more proof to open the case against Dejavu, but I replied that I'd like to wait because I don't expect the guy to repeat it again. It was a mistake to let him go.
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Wow

So I guess there was no need for me to go and beat him up then?


LOL

I remember an MSN group convo planning to do just that.
Around the time me and Clix started abusing the :oops: emoticon
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Postby Zantinzuken » Wed Jan 07, 09 5:47 pm

I thought that admin abuse thing was the AAGP server? Or was that another occasion where you/Alex were accused of hacking their server.
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Postby Alex » Wed Jan 07, 09 5:50 pm

Zantinzuken wrote:I thought that admin abuse thing was the AAGP server? Or was that another occasion where you/Alex were accused of hacking their server.

Dae indeed meant the AAGP server; sorry for the mix-up. And it was me who got accused, of both ghosting and spawnmassing.
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Postby Zantinzuken » Wed Jan 07, 09 6:01 pm

Yeah, I don't think I ever got to post publicly about that.

I had a few words with Reef and Lazer (we were playing all the time at that stage), they were certain it was you, but I was sure it was Ferd. In the end I made a point about Ferd to Clix which eventually got back to Lazer, I got a PM from him on this very forum. It looked to me that you were being framed by Ferd, there was no IP logs and stuff, no proof just plain lies.

Needless to say Lazer was pretty freaked, in the PM he was none too pleased and commented on how they'd all lost "respect" for me over the accusations. Then I showed him the shenanigans that went on with Ferd and [V] (he banned Marco and Florian from AAGP under the name NOCHANC on our forum).

I'm not too sure if that made a difference, but Lazer DID actually believe me along with Reef. Considering they were the only other members of AAGP perhaps that's why it died down soon after.
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Thu Jan 08, 09 3:12 am

Dae wrote:Part 3

7. I reported Dejavu to Slovenian police, they caught him and by the words of the investigator, Dejavu pleaded guilty even thought they found no proof on his computer. At the same time, the attacks stopped. The investigator sent me several emails asking to provide more proof to open the case against Dejavu, but I replied that I'd like to wait because I don't expect the guy to repeat it again. It was a mistake to let him go.
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It's said that you let him go, to be honest. Personally, I wouldn't have, because there was always going to be the off-chance he'd attack again, which he did.

But that's just my personal take on that.
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Postby Survive. » Thu Jan 08, 09 3:25 am

Is it true that you hacked other various websites, e.g a Dutch website?

And did Dan aka Kaiden have any of the so called hacks/bugs you had?

Haha this has to be put in, what exactly did you think of me when B2S and [A]lpha where DXAG'ing?
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Postby Alex » Thu Jan 08, 09 6:38 am

I, as an individual - not Alpha related, indeed did hack several websites, mostly Dutch actually.


Kaiden never had access to our console hacks.
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Postby Survive. » Thu Jan 08, 09 8:42 am

What about the in-game hacks?
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Postby Alex » Thu Jan 08, 09 10:08 am

If you mean hacks like lambugging, yeah, I shared those. But not only with clanmembers, with a lot of people.
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Postby Kaiden » Thu Jan 08, 09 10:12 am

And did Dan aka Kaiden have any of the so called hacks/bugs you had?


Dae nor Alex never gave me anything, anything I learned I got off others, when I joined Dae gave me a bind to help fight, (Decent med bind or something) but that's it.
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Postby Survive. » Thu Jan 08, 09 12:13 pm

Just wondering... Thought you did some weird thing in RTKM when me and Bale where there :P
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Postby ~SaSQuAtCH~ » Thu Jan 08, 09 2:44 pm

Alex why did you hack MMCity server?
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Postby Alex » Thu Jan 08, 09 2:49 pm

DeathMaster wrote:Alex why did you hack MMCity server?

Because I could. These days I still 'hack' things, if I have the chance to. But the damage I do is nothing, and I usually report the bug afterwards. Back then, I still wanted to actual damage.
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Postby or 1=1 » Thu Jan 08, 09 3:25 pm

Have you never wanted to rename the clan in A-Team ?
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Postby Dae » Thu Jan 08, 09 3:31 pm

=P wrote:Have you never wanted to rename the clan in A-Team ?

hell yea
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Postby ~SaSQuAtCH~ » Thu Jan 08, 09 6:07 pm

Nah Bear wrote:The damage I do is nothing


I don't think hacking MMCity is no damage, especially not for the community that [A] claims to have fought for. A popular opinion is that you hacked MMCity because you were led by jealousy. What's your opinion about that?
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Postby Bear » Thu Jan 08, 09 6:11 pm

Does [A]lpha control [REN]?
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Postby Alex » Thu Jan 08, 09 6:18 pm

DeathMaster wrote:
Nah Bear wrote:The damage I do is nothing


I don't think hacking MMCity is no damage, especially not for the community that [A] claims to have fought for. A popular opinion is that you hacked MMCity because you were led by jealousy. What's your opinion about that?

You clearly didn't read what I said. No problem with that, let me re-explain it.
I said, back then, I did want to do actual damage. But these days, I don't.
As for jealousy; I am afraid that it wasn't a case of jealousy; After all, after my attack, I helped MainMan improve MMCity security wise.
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Postby Bear » Thu Jan 08, 09 8:40 pm

Is anyone in [A] gay?
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Postby or 1=1 » Thu Jan 08, 09 10:47 pm

The server whic was named something like "everyone is admin " and when you joined it you had admin powers and a strange .exe installed in your DX folder was yours ?
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Postby Dae » Thu Jan 08, 09 10:54 pm

=P wrote:The server whic was named something like "everyone is admin " and when you joined it you had admin powers and a strange .exe installed in your DX folder was yours ?

you're joking right?
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