Deus Ex Alpha

A number of people in the [A] community and other clans expressed disgust that we have removed beretta. So If I may take the liberty of directing you to a vote on FGS forums...

Beretta has been put to the vote. You may vote at http://www.gravity-world.com Beretta has been only removed on a trial basis. I expect beretta to win the vote. Any political discussion in-game on server may be ignored, 120 convos are not gonna happen... make your point everyone at gravity-world.com

We have added energy pistol, sabot launcher, smg, specialrifle, and mingun to the NYC_Airport map, which is still under construction...As soon as we can we will add more weps to as many maps as we can on the Altfire server.

The issues are this...

We had complaints about Pulse, Shotgun and Beretta. I see valid reasons for retaining Pulse and Shotgun, although Shotgun is not a science fiction weapon, neither really is Special Rifle....

Beretta however, is being used by pros and even intermediate players with devastating effect and reducing the need to bother even training on the actual sci-fi altfire weps and causing many players to complain to me. Pings vary between players and beretta is basically an unscoped sniper machine gun... some kind of terrible SMG that fires 10mm bullets, a bit like an overpowered UMP45. I am not saying if I vote for or against beretta, I want the community to decide. Please vote on grav world.

My ideal situation, which takes some work, is to vary weps over each map on the server. A different wep missing on each map. This would be fairest system and one which encourages player to be good on all weps.

All suggestions, comments are welcome...

I think the Beretta should be deleted, it's overpowered.

What she said.

Jon wrote:What she said.

Thanks hon.

Alex wrote:

Jon wrote:What she said.

Thanks hon.

I thought that I was your only HONEY


and yes, the Beretta should be removed.

ENFORCER FTW !

Alex i totally agree with you, but it aint for you or me to rule over others...

why do u fail to see this point?

And besides are you completely mad, beretta is winning the vote by a long score...

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:Alex i totally agree with you, but it aint for you or me to rule over others...

why do u fail to see this point?

And besides are you completely mad, beretta is winning the vote by a long score...

Uh? You wanted my opinion so I gave it.

Could you modify it to make it a bit less powerfull?

you'd have to ask Hejhuka, the author...

the mod can be loaded in the editor, so if it is your map, you can design the map and gun to be balanced, but you can't alter the weps without permission.

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:you'd have to ask Hejhuka, the author...

the mod can be loaded in the editor, so if it is your map, you can design the map and gun to be balanced, but you can't alter the weps without permission.

Wanna bet?

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:you'd have to ask Hejhuka, the author...

the mod can be loaded in the editor, so if it is your map, you can design the map and gun to be balanced, but you can't alter the weps without permission.

You can actually, copyright doesn't extend to modification without profit.

Besides, don't those models belong to someone else?

If you can modify a preset weapon set without permission then surely modding a mod softens the blow. The fire rate or accuracy could be toned down so it could be like a DEagle.

The only thing that is against copyright is claiming the entirety of it as your own.

Hey that's not true: Klop copied SMG_Mod skin to skin, value to value; lmao I hope he remembers that.

Regardless does anyone have an established link with Hejijuka?

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:you'd have to ask Hejhuka, the author...

the mod can be loaded in the editor, so if it is your map, you can design the map and gun to be balanced, but you can't alter the weps without permission.

You can open the mod in editor and add the weapons to the map and by opening the weapons properties, you can alter their default properties there like hitdamage. Those will only take effect in game after you pick up the weapon once, and then re-pick it up.

In my opinion, the original tnag mod is way better than the altfire one. Altfire is just way too over powered and un-balanced.

got a link for original?

you may aswell remove that sniper as well then. snipers own the server without beretta, close and long range pretty much. I feel as if automatic shotgun has also been nerfed.

Gravity gun is so much fun though. Put it on amtrak as well. I could blow them into air all night long

I would agree with you but you are forgetting noob rifle, I mean vac rifle...
unlimited range and the ability to spray, if you miss with your first shock rifle shot, you've a good chance of dying... and also the "sniper" is not really a sniper, no scope required... the shock rifle is used in melee, just like a pistol, with a rate of fire similar to a normal pistol.

AutoShotgun - well that is a whole story in itself... The silencer and the apparent lag have caused numerous accusations of cheating.

If I could find a way to have grav gun without ppl abusing predator mode or shooting people through walls, into spwnrooms etc... then I would happily re-introduce it... It's not really a weapon in it's pro use, it's for seeing, for jumping, for making other people jump, for climbing any height of wall etc... if it could be modified to prevent wallshooting and pred buggin then fine...

Beretta has won the vote and at some point will be re-introduced, but most likely not on every map. It's currently on DXMP_Spaceship on the server.

We had complaints about Beretta, Pulse and Shotgun. We will continue to test various combinations of weapons and maps etc... in the meantime, thank you for your patience...

There wasn't even a beretta or assault shotgun in unreal tournament
Why remove beretta ? its an awesome weapon (maybe lower the fire rate).

But the pulse gun is very overpowered (nothing beats a newbie firing all over the place with a pulse gun, except a headshot)

[RTK]Eçheløn wrote:There wasn't even a beretta or assault shotgun in unreal tournament
Why remove beretta ? its an awesome weapon (maybe lower the fire rate).

But the pulse gun is very overpowered (nothing beats a newbie firing all over the place with a pulse gun, except a headshot)

Overpowered my ass, I suck with the god damn thing. If you can't hit your target then it being "overpowered" kinda outweighs it.

Oh i'm sorry i meant if you're in a narrow corrider like the one in smuggler then its difficult to escape.
People jumping around in those big outdoors maps are harder to hit with pulse gun.

[RTK]Eçheløn wrote:Oh i'm sorry i meant if you're in a narrow corrider like the one in smuggler then its difficult to escape.
People jumping around in those big outdoors maps are harder to hit with pulse gun.

Yeah, that makes more sence now lol. In that situation it'd be like using a fucking GEP in the same map.

all weapons besides sniper suck pretty equally there right now imo. its like for joking around. that includes pulse gun.maybe its that silly low-gravity.

But then, most things are just for joking around when you're in REN. Oh, and just to cover my bases, I'll add "imo".

lol

Echelon wrote:Why remove beretta ? its an awesome weapon (maybe lower the fire rate).

I asked Alex if he can make it single shot... Alex said he will try to remove some bugs in tnag, including the beretta silencer...