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Postby Alex » Mon May 12, 08 7:01 pm

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:the whole room look at B2S...

Alex, can i confirm there is only one server right?

I got confused cos someone contacted me on MSN and said that a dutch guy was offering servers at 1 per slot... i could afford two servers for same price I'm paying now, and that would be an offer hard to refuse...

Only one server indeed. Mind you, someone can offer you a server, but you wont know how good the server actually is. Mine you can test.
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Postby Psycho » Mon May 12, 08 10:00 pm

£65:00 Total. I want it to host a ATDM server :)
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Postby Survive. » Tue May 13, 08 9:19 pm

[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:the whole room look at B2S...

Alex, can i confirm there is only one server right?

I got confused cos someone contacted me on MSN and said that a dutch guy was offering servers at 1 per slot... i could afford two servers for same price I'm paying now, and that would be an offer hard to refuse...


[off-topic sorry but...]

What do you mean pl0x? XD

Nice offer you have here Alex :)
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Postby Alex » Tue May 13, 08 9:21 pm

¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:
[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:the whole room look at B2S...

Alex, can i confirm there is only one server right?

I got confused cos someone contacted me on MSN and said that a dutch guy was offering servers at 1 per slot... i could afford two servers for same price I'm paying now, and that would be an offer hard to refuse...


[off-topic sorry but...]

What do you mean pl0x? XD

Nice offer you have here Alex :)

He means this:
http://www.dxalpha.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12875

But the network that Dutch guy hosts on is unreliable.
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Postby Survive. » Tue May 13, 08 9:24 pm

Alex wrote:
¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:
[FGS]ShadowRunner wrote:the whole room look at B2S...

Alex, can i confirm there is only one server right?

I got confused cos someone contacted me on MSN and said that a dutch guy was offering servers at 1 per slot... i could afford two servers for same price I'm paying now, and that would be an offer hard to refuse...


[off-topic sorry but...]

What do you mean pl0x? XD

Nice offer you have here Alex :)

He means this:
http://www.dxalpha.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12875

But the network that Dutch guy hosts on is unreliable.


Oh no, I ment

whole room look at B2S...
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Postby [FGS]ShadowRunner » Wed May 14, 08 2:19 am

never been to an auction?

Yes, bloody confusing the entire Dutch nation offering servers the same week...
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Postby Dejavu » Wed May 14, 08 6:31 am

this guy whos offering these dxmp servers is not dutch guy, hes from slovenia just like me, but in game server hosting bussiness. dunno where u get idea that hes dutch??? just bcos server is located in nl?
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Postby Psycho » Wed May 14, 08 7:57 am

There is only one B2S bidding.
Its ME,Sike,Survive,Protocol at the moment.
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Postby Alex » Wed May 14, 08 5:32 pm

Noone else bidding?
Current highest bid is 65 pound by Psycho!
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Postby Psycho » Wed May 14, 08 5:56 pm

Well not really, Survive has bid £18.50pm witch makes £129:50total
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Postby Alex » Wed May 14, 08 6:41 pm

~þsÿçhø~ wrote:Well not really, Survive has bid £18.50pm witch makes £129:50total

I see, must've missed that one then. Unless a higher bid will be placed soon, I will accept Survive's bid.
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Postby Survive. » Wed May 14, 08 11:24 pm

WTF? Sorry, didn't bid that Alex =/

£70 by me.

P.S - Do we have to pay this fully in one go, or can we do it monthly?
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Thu May 15, 08 2:00 am

He's already said you can pay per month (pm) or total (tot).
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Postby Psycho » Thu May 15, 08 7:45 am

¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:£18.50

¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:WTF? Sorry, didn't bid that Alex =/

£70 by me.

P.S - Do we have to pay this fully in one go, or can we do it monthly?


You said £18:50 pm witch makes £129:50 in total.
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Postby Survive. » Thu May 15, 08 11:15 am

~þsÿçhø~ wrote:
¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:£18.50

¤[ß2S]¤Sürvívë wrote:WTF? Sorry, didn't bid that Alex =/

£70 by me.

P.S - Do we have to pay this fully in one go, or can we do it monthly?


You said £18:50 pm witch makes £129:50 in total.


That's a stand alone figure, with no PM nor TO after it...

£10PM
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Postby Psycho » Thu May 15, 08 5:33 pm

£10pm is a joke, a higher bid has been placed by protocol. Btw, can I withdraw my bid/s please, as I had £70 in it, but I have managed to spend £40 somehow :D Sorry.
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Postby Destroyerzero » Thu May 15, 08 7:20 pm

What is the hardware of the server and connection strength?

12 clients under what Client Rate? Also, can it run under TR60?.....Finally...are the settings of the server updated to bandwith settings in 2005 - 2006 or do they still use the same GoTY settings from the multiplayer beta...(Yes, its a fact that most servers run under the settings of MTL on top of DeusEx Multiplayer Beta settings that were released in the GoTY edition. Anyone who was in the multiplayer beta in 2000 would agree with me)

I haven't met one person in this whole community who can make a better "overall" server than myself in balance between settings and hardware. (Lowest ping alone != best server). This is why there was a time when most server operators in this game came to me by AIM and MSN for help in one way or another and I was always glad to help.
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Postby Psycho » Thu May 15, 08 7:22 pm

What is your server name?
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Postby Alex » Thu May 15, 08 7:27 pm

Destroyerzero wrote:What is the hardware of the server and connection strength?

12 clients under what Client Rate? Also, can it run under TR60?.....Finally...are the settings of the server updated to bandwith settings in 2005 - 2006 or do they still use the same GoTY settings from the multiplayer beta...(Yes, its a fact that most servers run under the settings of MTL on top of DeusEx Multiplayer Beta settings that were released in the GoTY edition. Anyone who was in the multiplayer beta in 2000 would agree with me)

I haven't met one person in this whole community who can make a better "overall" server than myself in balance between settings and hardware. (Lowest ping alone != best server). This is why there was a time when most server operators in this game came to me by AIM and MSN for help in one way or another and I was always glad to help.

The exact hardware of where the server is ran is not known.
But it's either a Quadcore Xeon or Dualcore Dual Opteron.

Tickrated may be changed to anything, I didn't change any bandwidth settings, so most likely, when tweaking, you can improve the performance. And you're right about that the lowest ping isn't the best server. In some servers I have 20 ping, but it feels crap compared to other servers. (Ok, crap is exaggerated, but still, it feels less 'smooth')
EDIT: Connection strength. It has a 1000mbit connection and placed in the We Dare network in Rotterdam.
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Postby Kaiden » Thu May 15, 08 8:47 pm

Who is Destroyerzero? What server do/have you hosted?
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Postby Zantinzuken » Thu May 15, 08 8:51 pm

~[A]Kaiden~ wrote:Who is Destroyerzero? What server do/have you hosted?


Setsunyaki(sp?) is his other name, if I remember correctly he either founded [AK] or was one of their first members. He's been around long, probably the longest on this forum? (who are active)

Always mix him up with ZeroPresence :x
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Postby Kaiden » Thu May 15, 08 8:52 pm

Hehe before my time xD. If he was around in 2000 O_o.
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Postby Zantinzuken » Thu May 15, 08 8:56 pm

Indeed.

Used to host a heavily modded server awhile ago. Trying to remember if it had completely new found augs or a new gametype, one or the other. Ran pretty damn smooth for an American server, had something like 100 ping there - considering I get like 200 per USA server that's quite good.
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Postby Destroyerzero » Thu May 15, 08 9:39 pm

Hi everyone... (I will reply to multiple postings)

In regards to AK:

I'll clarify since im friendly ^_^.

I was the founder to AK itself, along with Blood and Mystro. Setsunayaki is my other name which I've used for many years :)

In regards to Hardware:

Alex,

I've played in 1gbps servers before. I tend to get ping so low (usually 15 and under) that it feels like a singleplayer game online. I played in a team deathmatch in UT III in a 1gbps server. THe server did not allow Dialup in that current server and my ping, along with everyone elses...I saw a list of 32 players , where the highest ping was 24 and the lowest ping was 6. I pinged 9.

Opterons and latest Xeons are intended for 64-bit OSes, but DX itself was made for single core operation. This means the only way to get better performance is to work with "single core" overall performance.

In regards to my Server:

ATDM (NE-USA) Server ^_^ is the name. The whole server has extreme settings, uses MTL151b1,MTL160, MiniMTL13, MiniMTL210, Nephtys (I dont know if Im supposed to remove MiniMTL13)...

The settings are so extreme that to achive what I want to do, I had to put the entire game in a RamDisk and set it to realtime priority settings.

My two environments to test have are
Windows 64 bit
Linux + Wine
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Postby Kaiden » Thu May 15, 08 9:45 pm

I'd get

CRDM

To stop Console hacks and stuff, unless you got something else on there.
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Postby Destroyerzero » Thu May 15, 08 10:07 pm

Thanks

I'll apply it next server boot. I still want to test under the settings I have :)
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Postby Alex » Fri May 16, 08 7:00 am

Destroyerzero wrote:Thanks

I'll apply it next server boot. I still want to test under the settings I have :)

Remove DXMTL160.

And as for the hardware, I * think * each gameserver runs on it's own core. And I'm afraid you can't compare pings from other games with Deus Ex, as there's a big difference between 'ping' and how it 'feels'.
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Postby Psycho » Fri May 16, 08 7:35 am

Zantinzuken wrote:
~[A]Kaiden~ wrote:Who is Destroyerzero? What server do/have you hosted?


Setsunyaki(sp?) is his other name, if I remember correctly he either founded [AK] or was one of their first members. He's been around long, probably the longest on this forum? (who are active)

Always mix him up with ZeroPresence :x


I played from the start :wink:
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Postby [FGS]ShadowRunner » Fri May 16, 08 11:08 am

Setsunyaki, is a legend. I read about him on old dx sites and see his name when I became a mapper...
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Postby ¤[A]Raiden¤ » Fri May 16, 08 7:41 pm

Destroyerzero wrote:Thats a good thing Alex.

Also, in response to Dejavu's claim and ACT. :)

INJECT USERFLAG 1
When connected to a server displays statistics once per tick.

i=20 cli=3 act=4.3 (640) net=2.3 pv/c=80 re p/c=0 rp c/c=0

i=Server tickrate, Cli= Number of Clients, act= Time spent on processing Actors (ms), (640) number of actors, net= Time spent on network processing (ms). Assuming a tickrate of 20, if act + net = 50 the server is running at 100% CPU utilization ( 1000ms / 20 = 50 ). If cli is greater than the number of players in the game the server most likely suffers from the win2k creeping ping bug. Note: INJECT USERFLAG 0 turns off output.


What processor? Processors have different ALU and FPU performance scaling per generation. Secondly, there is only one real place inside of a computer that has a millisecond response time in information....that is a hard drive itself. You can eliminate the millisecond and convert it to nanoseconds by throwing the whole server into a Ramdisk.

Im running extreme settings in my server right now, its located inside a Ramdisk of 3GB (I use ramdisk for a lot of things) set to realtime priority settings and to one core. It requires the nanosecond response time of Memory to do what I am trying to do with my settings.



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