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Unveiling Alpha’s secrets — confessions, only truth

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 7:40 pm
by Dae
Alpha bowed out from the community in May 2008, but still there are many speculations about our past on several forums in the internet. I'd like to lay down my cards on the table and unveil every secret about Deus Ex community, our clan, activities, plans, mistakes etc.

I promise to tell the truth and not to go away from the answer unless the question is inappropriate.

I will be posting those secrets in a random order in several parts, but you're free to ask your question (even if you were our enemy etc).

Some answers may be interesting, some may be not.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 7:55 pm
by Siva
Did you develop hacks?

And not just to text CRD, I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 7:59 pm
by Baleout
Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 8:02 pm
by Dae
Part 1
  1. Once I hacked MiniMTL forum (the one on DeusExGaming) and downloaded all the attachments from it. I told Nobody about the vulnerability, though.
  2. I also hacked DestroyerZero's forum, downloaded the backup of it, browsed private discussions and as well told DestroyerZero about the vulnerability.
  3. I hacked [TT] forum. I don't remember what I did to it, but I haven't told anyone about this before now.
  4. I didn't hack any more forums (I think).
  5. In 2003 not many people knew about LAM bug (the one which allows you to dupe LAMs near walls). I didn't abuse it to kill people, but I couldn't resist spreading it among my friends (one of them was [MTX or [TGU] Oracle).
  6. In 2004 I decided to merge |ALPHA| with German clan [A]ssassins. The only reason behind the merger was to take over [A]ssassins and their sexy one letter tag. This was indeed a shady dealing :) After the merger, we gained weight in the community — but all original [A]ssassins left the new clan. This event started a new trend/fashion of one letter tags (e.g. [F], [V], [N], [R] and many more).
  7. Klop/Gishank was a member of Alpha for a few hours (he had access to private forums etc).

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 8:06 pm
by Alex
Protocol wrote:Did you develop hacks?

And not just to text CRD, I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks.

Yes, we did.
Baleout wrote:Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.

No, we didn't. Nearly noone of the clan had access to our hacks.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 8:11 pm
by Dae
Protocol wrote:Did you develop hacks?

Yes, a lot of.

Protocol wrote:I mean just for shits and giggles going around harassing people with hacks

All in all it happened ~3 times, we wanted to test the hacks in the "live environent" and of course, that led to annoyance of players who felt victims during that. Once, when Alex was caught on a demorec, I told off him for that.

But in all honesty, we never wanted to harass people or get any better scores, we didn't use hacks just for that. That wasn't interesting. It was interesting to hack into the game — yeah, that's for sure.

I'll cover some questions about CRD/hacks in the next parts.

Baleout wrote:Did you give bugs, hacks, exploits etc. to new members when they joined the clan.

Never.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 8:20 pm
by Siva
Dae wrote:But in all honesty, we never wanted to harass people or get any better scores, we didn't use hacks just for that. That wasn't interesting. It was interesting to hack into the game — yeah, that's for sure.


I respect your honesty Dae, I figured you would say that. Lord knows I am guilty of using a colourbot a couple of times for the hell of it.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 10:35 pm
by Mr. Tastix
Lmao, what compelled you to make Klop a member for a few hours?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 10:42 pm
by clyzm
Did a member of Alpha ever meet another member in person?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 10:54 pm
by Dae
cataclyzm wrote:Did a member of Alpha ever meet another member in person?

I met Jay in 2004, the whole meeting was like 10 minutes. I better not remember that though (:oops:), because I should've organized it properly... the host (good friends of my parents in Mancity) were scared when I notified them that I wanted to meet an online friend, and I was pretty much limited.

~Psychotic~ wrote:what compelled you to make Klop a member for a few hours?

Max started a poll if we should let Klop in, and eventually "yes" prevailed. I put a veto on that, but some mods let him in anyway. I think Kloppeh even posted a message like "what the hell" in our private forum. It was worth it :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 10:59 pm
by clyzm
Who was the _best_ player ever to enter the clan, in terms of skill?

Also, who was the member who most joined/left many times?

*gets out pad and pen*

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:01 pm
by MrBlackDX
I have a secret

Sonic Da Hedgehog clan were all members of [V]engeance and [A]lpha

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:04 pm
by James
Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

MrBlack wrote:I have a secret

Sonic Da Hedgehog clan were all members of [V]engeance and [A]lpha


OH.

MY.

GOD.


Klop/Gishank was a member of Alpha for a few hours (he had access to private forums etc).


Oh and I got shouted at for it!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:04 pm
by Psycho
Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)
I appreciate the honesty btw :P

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:06 pm
by Dae
cataclyzm wrote:Also, who was the member who most joined/left many times?

Raiden

cataclyzm wrote:Who was the _best_ player ever to enter the clan, in terms of skill?

it's hard to judge because 0aug and ATDM require different skills

I'd say MastaKilla... but Splitter, Mahou were also very good in both game types

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:06 pm
by MrBlackDX
~þsÿçhø~ wrote:Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)
I appreciate the honesty btw :P


I can answer that

Klop and Danny have always had low performance, therefore any claims by them can be disregarded

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:09 pm
by Dae
~þsÿçhø~ wrote:Did Alpha in ANY way, use an exploit, or bug, to lower the performance of a player, in a public server? (NON ALPHA?)

yes, as I said above (see my answer to Protocol's question)

James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:11 pm
by Dex
Did [A] hack [4] forums?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:11 pm
by MrBlackDX
Dae wrote:
James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts


Well they were correct about James then

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:12 pm
by clyzm
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm
by Dex
cataclyzm wrote:
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?


I joined the community in 1998, while we were still waiting for Deus Ex to come out. I know EVERYTHING.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm
by James
MrBlack wrote:
Dae wrote:
James wrote:Were your carers scared of me being from Liverpool?

nope, they were scared by the fact that we know each other from the internet. They thought the internet by 2/3 consists of paedophiles and other perverts


Well they were correct about James then


I'm not a pervert.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:14 pm
by clyzm
Stefan wrote:
cataclyzm wrote:
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?


How the kangaroo do you know about [4]?


I joined the community in 1998, while we were still waiting for Deus Ex to come out. I know EVERYTHING.


You lie to me.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:16 pm
by Dex
cataclyzm wrote:You lie to me.


What do you mean? I do not understand.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:16 pm
by clyzm
Stefan wrote:
cataclyzm wrote:You lie to me.


What do you mean? I do not understand.


You LIE

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:19 pm
by Dex
cataclyzm wrote:You LIE


What are you doing? Stop it.
I just asked did [A] hack [4].

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:19 pm
by MrBlackDX
It would be interesting to know who has actually met each other in real life after meeting on Deus Ex

I've always considered it, but the only people I know from the south west are Mahou and Nash (old ][M][ and [V] member), I never managed to get to know Mahou very well and me and Nash always ended up missing each other by annoying coincidence (he would be in Bristol when I wasn't etc...)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:20 pm
by Dae
Stefan wrote:Did [A] hack [4] forums?

no

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:22 pm
by MrBlackDX
Technically weren't James and Chococat members of [A] around the time they met up?

Or am I incorrect?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 09 11:23 pm
by Dae
MrBlack wrote:Technically weren't James and Chococat members of [A] around the time they met up?

formally, Chococat was never a member of [A]