Augs in MP

[Lord Bamse]

What is this general frowning upon augs in DXMP? Since I started playing DXMP in the beginning of this year, I have experienced that playing with augs is practically as fun as an MP game can get. Playing without them just makes a slow UT with a little different weapons. And mines of course. What's the point in that? People rant about augs not being fair play, but if you have all augs from the start, no one stops you from owning people back. All the augs balance each other out, so there is no real problem with gameplay balance.

Personally, I get the inpression that people can't handle the augs properly, and thus spit on them. I think this is sad. The augs is what makes both DXSP and DXMP unique from other games. It is talked about zero-aug as "true dx", but how can this be? YOu are ruining the soul of the game by removing the one thing that makes it different. I love the slow, thinking gameplay of using stealth augs. Add throwing knives and the targeting and combat strength augs, and you have a one hit kill-weapon. Throwing knives are by all means usable in zero-augs, but they aren't nearly ass effective. Most people just lame about with the sniper and assault rifle.

I read a "tutorial" in your information archive. It told me face up that the weapons I should use are 1. Assault RIfle 2. Assault Shotgun and 3. Sniper RIfle. I think it is a shame that people can be so ignorant. Every weapon has its uses, but people won't recognize this. Instead they scale down the gameplay by removing augs and many of the weapons, calling it "improvement".

I am by no means a 1337 player, I just think that all this zero-augs business is total bullshit. Dimensions of gameplay are lost through this act of ignorance. I hope I have not offended anyone, this forum seems great, and promises to be the DX resource I have been looking for. But it really annyos me when people on the servers go about saying intelligent things like "augs are gay" and the like.

/Lord Bamse

[Zarger]

To be a good fighter in augs you really have to have the correct augs for youself as me visioin aug, speed aug, combat strengh, cloak, and regeneration are good ones not to menshin agresive defense system thats not bad. But also you have to be a good fighter.
Personally I like fighting without augs but with augs its ok.


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[HelioWalton]

AH FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO HAS EXACTLY THE SAME OPINION AS ME!!!! YAY!

BTW whatyou said is exactly what I explain to every freaking n00btard Player_(Insert number here) Who complains because my server has augs. BUt also in that case I just say that it was their choice... (Sadly they usually end up staying)

[Sturmovik]

What is this general frowning upon augs in DXMP? Since I started playing DXMP in the beginning of this year, I have experienced that playing with augs is practically as fun as an MP game can get. Playing without them just makes a slow UT with a little different weapons. And mines of course. What's the point in that? People rant about augs not being fair play, but if you have all augs from the start, no one stops you from owning people back. All the augs balance each other out, so there is no real problem with gameplay balance.

Personally, I get the inpression that people can't handle the augs properly, and thus spit on them. I think this is sad. The augs is what makes both DXSP and DXMP unique from other games. It is talked about zero-aug as "true dx", but how can this be? YOu are ruining the soul of the game by removing the one thing that makes it different. I love the slow, thinking gameplay of using stealth augs. Add throwing knives and the targeting and combat strength augs, and you have a one hit kill-weapon. Throwing knives are by all means usable in zero-augs, but they aren't nearly ass effective. Most people just lame about with the sniper and assault rifle.

I read a "tutorial" in your information archive. It told me face up that the weapons I should use are 1. Assault RIfle 2. Assault Shotgun and 3. Sniper RIfle. I think it is a shame that people can be so ignorant. Every weapon has its uses, but people won't recognize this. Instead they scale down the gameplay by removing augs and many of the weapons, calling it "improvement".

I am by no means a 1337 player, I just think that all this zero-augs business is total bullshit. Dimensions of gameplay are lost through this act of ignorance. I hope I have not offended anyone, this forum seems great, and promises to be the DX resource I have been looking for. But it really annyos me when people on the servers go about saying intelligent things like "augs are gay" and the like.

/Lord Bamse

I think i love him

[Dae]

HelioWalton: never seen your server online, but been to your site. Also, Player_*** can be an e1337 I use such nickname (mine is Player_313) too.
I competely agree with Lord Bamse. I like augs, its the main difference between DX and these stoopid games like CS, SoF, VC, BF and etc. Just skills are sometimes unfair. If the person got a bad ping, killing the other player, who already got upgraded skills is very hard, if the target is pro-, then, even impossible.
Zero-aug is war of pings and so connections. When there were a server called Vollkrass (zero-aug, lams, location: germany), its not boasting, i can say i were between the best players on it. And yes, my ping, even on the full server were 80-90. I could handle anyone from max, sniper shot distance with only assault rifle in few seconds <= only because of the ping.

[Jeoh]

I'll just put it this way...
0Augs = Ping
Augs = Ping, Skills, Logic, Tactics, Weapon Choice

And I don't like the generic ASR, ASG, SR set-up. I use low-tech weapons and a pistol. And I still win most games!
*Points at Mahou* Did you like my DTS?

[Dae]

And I still win most games!

Do you?

[Jeoh]

And I still win most games!

Do you?

Wanna try?
I just play DX for fun now, so mostly low-tech. I can play with ASR, ASG and SR, but I just don't like them. I remember someone called 'NevadaGirl' owning everyone with a combat knife in augs. Damn she was good.

[Malachai]

Augs is DX, plain and simple. But the multitude of 0-aug servers, plus the intense learning curve of augs now is what drives the younger players to frown on augs. When I say learning curve, I mean if you are new and are trying to get the hang of augs, and you face someone like me with 3 years experience, it's easy to get frustrated and say screw this, but DON'T.

If you tell a vet you are new or ask for help in a nice way, more than likely, you will get it. The first thing I tell new players is: Go to the following website... This will explain what each aug does in a multiplayer setting.
http://www.planetdeusex.com/dx1/help/multiplayer/

Next, change the location of your keys to within easy reach of your keyboard hand. Do this under your settings/keyboard tab. I use the arrows for movement. I can reach everything I need without reaching over myself in-battle.

As far as weapons, in augs, each weapon has it's place. I believe what people were referring to before was in 0-aug. Rifles are my first choice, but I can use everything from a GEP to a Combat Knife, take your pick... If you want to improve your game, challenge yourself every day. Play with pistol until you feel good about it, then knives, and so on and so forth. That is what keeps DX fun. For every weapon or aug, there is a defense, it's just knowing what it is and how to use it.

[Jeoh]

I can use everything from a GEP to a Combat Knife

Just like TheMexican