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Poll by Dae: should we leave skills upgrading feature or let it be like now, with all skills on max level?

I want upgradable skills.
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Postby [FGS]ShadowRunner » Mon Jan 01, 07 1:06 pm

If a topic exists, I apologize and request a movement...
I heard that [A] are helping Zora to set the server.

I don't need to mention the obvious requests like bring back Skills Selection plz...

BUT: It appears that the event with a fake Ste is being repeated...
I have been playing for 2 hours and for the whole of 2 hours, two players "VincentMCDOOM" and "pingu" are teamkilling with plasma... I find it unbelievable that players like these are bothering to try to ruin an already-ruined game...

I would suggest that if there is going to be no admin, then this server desperately needs teamkill ability removed. I don't have any problem killing ppl that are using plasma, but I noticed also even innocent players are teamkilling with plasma when there is a melee...I don't suggest to remove plasma or flame, but to remove teamkill ability.

I wonder what ppl think...

PS: TY very much Zora for hosting a 0-aug server, I like both games.
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 01, 07 1:20 pm

I sent Zora a message yesterday about conditions of the server. I hope plasma and 20mm will be removed soon and I even hope that I will manage to persuade him to install MMAntiTK110 :) His server is great and despite I don't think he will be hosting it for a long time, it's worth it to fix these issues.
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Mon Jan 01, 07 1:35 pm

If Zora can host on the normal MSL with no problems, why can't icho?
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Postby [FGS]ShadowRunner » Mon Jan 01, 07 2:14 pm

Yeah his server is great, I would enjoy no plasma and 20mm

I like his setting of maps and scores... It makes a fast action game, even though it is repetitive... the best I can do is 15.1 with 6 players...

I could connect to FGS and also DXMS on the gamespy server when it was visible, but no-one joined and when I disconnected and refreshed the list, it was invisible again.

Also I have [A]lex's mod, but I can not see the dxmtl.eu list, only gamespy.
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Postby synthetic » Mon Jan 01, 07 4:14 pm

on a slightly off-topic note: vincentMCDOOM (lol) has probably been teamkilling for a year now. if not more. As far as I remember he is the number one teamkiller ive met. At some point he started using a lot of aliases he changes in game so.. i hope anyone with sufficient powers will be banning him on sight.
On topic: why have ALL skillpoints been removed? It is sort of funny, like fighting bally player with advanced skillpts.
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Postby [FGS]ShadowRunner » Mon Jan 01, 07 6:20 pm

not off-topic, vincent was the first serious threat to that server...

NO- All skills are now available on start-up, this IMO suks alot...

It was better when you had to choose skills and earn more.
Now people can take turrets too easy and open cabinets too easy etc...
People can camp from the beginning of a game and kill "off the back" of another better player etc. With skills being earned, it was a better game, favouring the aggressive and daring, not campers...
Also I preferred having to increase weapon skills, not starting with max...

but what has been done is an improvement I admit...

sounds ungrateful... but I'm not.
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Postby Kaiden » Mon Jan 01, 07 6:30 pm

-random- wrote:on a slightly off-topic note: vincentMCDOOM (lol) has probably been teamkilling for a year now. if not more. As far as I remember he is the number one teamkiller ive met. At some point he started using a lot of aliases he changes in game so.. i hope anyone with sufficient powers will be banning him on sight.
On topic: why have ALL skillpoints been removed? It is sort of funny, like fighting bally player with advanced skillpts.


Yeah he does teamkill ALOT. I banned him from [A]Nobody's server a number of times untill finally banning his range.
Whats the name of the server hosted by Zora? Is it the one we were playing yesterday at like 3 in the morning Shadow? If so I was teamkilled a number of times either by the fact I will using melee weapons and my team kept shooting plasma at me as they tried to hit the enemy, or just teamkillers in general.. That AntiTk110 seems like a good mod, is that the one that asks if the teamkill was deliberate?
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 01, 07 6:51 pm

That AntiTk110 seems like a good mod, is that the one that asks if the teamkill was deliberate?

Exactly. I've just sent it to Zora.
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 7:45 pm

I like the fact there's no skills now, it's ... different. :)

No more one shot kill snipers, so I can walk around not feeling too vunerable.

It also means you have to wait a while, whilst opening cabinets and taking turrets and plasma is now similar damage too assaults in fights. :) Lowtech also works well.

It's good he hosts this server, I appreciate it. Very fun. :D
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 01, 07 7:46 pm

~Cozmo~ wrote:I like the fact there's no skills now, it's ... different. :)

No more one shot kill snipers, so I can walk around not feeling too vunerable.

It also means you have to wait a while, whilst opening cabinets and taking turrets and plasma is now similar damage too assaults in fights. :) Lowtech also works well.

It's good he hosts this server, I appreciate it. Very fun. :D


Without skills, isn't everyone's sniper level set to Master?
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 7:48 pm

c[A]t wrote:
~Cozmo~ wrote:I like the fact there's no skills now, it's ... different. :)

No more one shot kill snipers, so I can walk around not feeling too vunerable.

It also means you have to wait a while, whilst opening cabinets and taking turrets and plasma is now similar damage too assaults in fights. :) Lowtech also works well.

It's good he hosts this server, I appreciate it. Very fun. :D


Without skills, isn't everyone's sniper level set to Master?


When I played yesterday, at 4 in the morning :shock:, everyone had untrained skill to start and no available skill points. :D
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Postby Kaiden » Mon Jan 01, 07 7:48 pm

No, everyones is level 1 and you can't upgrade it. I prefer it like that to upgrading skills because I quite often join a server where you have skill points and their will be people with master medical, pistol and rifle skills and they just kill you straight away. :(
The server is good fun! As we got our whole team to get Dragon tooth swords
and kill all the enemy hehe.
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 7:50 pm

§ KÃÎÐEN § wrote:No, everyones is level 1 and you can't upgrade it. I prefer it like that to upgrading skills because I quite often join a server where you have skill points and their will be people with master medical, pistol and rifle skills and they just kill you straight away. :(
The server is good fun! As we got our whole team to get Dragon tooth swords
and kill all the enemy hehe.


gg earlier. :lol:
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:15 pm

Okay, let it be democracy.
Please, scroll up and vote in the poll!
Thanks for attention.
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:21 pm

I agree.
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:23 pm

...What about no skills? :x
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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:27 pm

~Cozmo~ wrote:...What about no skills? :x

"No skills" as max'ed skills (when a sniper head shot is lethal) or skills at minimum level, when you have to waste all ammo you carry in order to kill a single person?
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:27 pm

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:
~Cozmo~ wrote:...What about no skills? :x

"No skills" as max'ed skills (when a sniper head shot is lethal) or skills at minimum level, when you have to waste all ammo you carry in order to kill a single person?


The latter.
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:39 pm

Having to upgrade is pointless, that only works in augs. In augs you can use a stratagy to get your kills up. In 0 augs its just more a case of brute force and luck. So if someone, as you say has already got maxed out skills you're as good as fucked.
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:41 pm

Longc[A]t wrote:Having to upgrade is pointless, that only works in augs. In augs you can use a stratagy to get your kills up. In 0 augs its just more a case of brute force and luck. So if someone, as you say has already got maxed out skills you're as good as fucked.


If that's true, how did I kill Dae sometimes and he had his rifles and meds maxed out?
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:46 pm

It only takes two headshots with no skill and non aug. :) And it's not like it can be healed that well. Just means it's not like all other dumb non aug servers... A big sniper fest... It's annoying that you can just get taken down by anyone with one shot and barely any way of avoiding it. :(

Untrained ftw. :D
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jan 01, 07 8:47 pm

~Cozmo~ wrote:It only takes two headshots with no skill and non aug. :) And it's not like it can be healed that well. Just means it's not like all other dumb non aug servers... A big sniper fest... It's annoying that you can just get taken down by anyone with one shot and barely any way of avoiding it. :(

Untrained ftw. :D


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Postby Dae » Mon Jan 01, 07 9:04 pm

c[A]t wrote:
Longc[A]t wrote:Having to upgrade is pointless, that only works in augs. In augs you can use a stratagy to get your kills up. In 0 augs its just more a case of brute force and luck. So if someone, as you say has already got maxed out skills you're as good as fucked.


If that's true, how did I kill Dae sometimes and he had his rifles and meds maxed out?
Because you also had rifles and meds maxed out :lol:
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Postby synthetic » Mon Jan 01, 07 11:00 pm

i favor upgrading and have voted so. I believe it adds skill to the game, and the pleasure of having an advantage over the enemy, just more than plain skill and aim. Not quite as in augs but should be there, more of a deus ex =)
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Postby Cozmo » Mon Jan 01, 07 11:04 pm

Make an untrained + no skill option. :(

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Postby Kaiden » Tue Jan 02, 07 8:44 pm

Well, the server has max skills now ^_^. Anyway, theirs like 3 24/7 servers that require you to upgrade skills, this one doesn't need to be the same!
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Postby Cozmo » Tue Jan 02, 07 8:56 pm

§ KÃÎÐEN § wrote:Well, the server has max skills now ^_^. Anyway, theirs like 3 24/7 servers that require you to upgrade skills, this one doesn't need to be the same!


Doesn't need to be the same..? It's the same as all the non aug servers now. A sniper based game...
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Tue Jan 02, 07 9:04 pm

~Cozmo~ wrote:
§ KÃÎÐEN § wrote:Well, the server has max skills now ^_^. Anyway, theirs like 3 24/7 servers that require you to upgrade skills, this one doesn't need to be the same!


Doesn't need to be the same..? It's the same as all the non aug servers now. A sniper based game...


There are no other fucking 0 aug servers.
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Postby Jon » Tue Jan 02, 07 9:10 pm

you just cant be arsed to look hard enough
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Tue Jan 02, 07 9:40 pm

[A]lexs mod didn't work. I couldn't be arsed with the DXMTL masterserver.
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