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Postby Kamikaze » Thu Jun 29, 06 5:43 am

While many will argue that Final Fantasy is the best RPG series, I feel that Suikoden rightfully deserves this honor. The stories in Suikoden generally have more realistic stories than Final Fantasy, usually involving a conflict between two countries or a civil war. On top of this, instead of taking on the role of some nobody, every game, with the exception of the second one (and arguments can be made in that case) you take on the role of somebody who you would expect to be a leader, be it the son of a country's best general or a prince. And instead of the game revolving around a group of 8 or so people who are supposed to save the world on their own, you can recruit up to 108 party members, along with having your own army, so it is a lot more realistic in that department.

Unlike Final Fantasy games, every Suikoden game takes place on the same world. This allows for some continuation between games, but not enough to be considered a direct sequel. Each game has its own plot and location, but these small links show a greater story that spans every game. On top of each game being quite fun, this factor gives you more incentive to play each game.

The gameplay is rather easy to get a hold of, which is a good thing since the game has no tutorial, unlike Final Fantasy games, which teach you how to play over the first hour or so. Until the latest installment, battles were pretty straightforward with you having a party of 6 divided into 2 rows, Now, however, different formations have been added that give different benefits when you use them. In my opinion it also has one of the better magic systems. Each character has a total of 3 slots (although some characters don't get access to all of them) to install runes. Some runes bestow the character with benefits in battle, and others provide magic spells. Each magic rune has 4 spells and depending on your magic stat decides how may times you can use each spell before resting.

After all of this, I feel that it has one of the best villains, even surpassing Sephiroth and Kefka. He appears in the second one as the main antagonist and is named Luca Blight. On top of being even more psychotic than Kefka he also has the best death scene, except for maybe Aerith's. So, if anyone is still reading this I highly suggest you try this series, but make sure you start with the first one. I guess it probably would have been easier to just post this link, but whatever.

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Postby Krieg » Thu Jun 29, 06 1:10 pm

omfg i got that game , suikoden 4 startegies or something , similar to stratego , awesome , but it was sooo short , still cool that you could start over and over again but kept every sword and other stuff when you ended it once
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Postby Kamikaze » Thu Jun 29, 06 3:00 pm

The other games are a lot different than that. Suikoden Tactics was a spin-off from Suikoden 4. The actual games are more of your traditional Japanese RPG. Alhtough each one has their own strategy sections.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Thu Jun 29, 06 3:16 pm

Suiko what?
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Postby DarkKnight » Thu Jun 29, 06 4:56 pm

Final Fantasy may explain the story lines a bit....

FF's own then, FF's owned now, and FF's will still own tomorrow.

Mind you, you shouldn't take the FF series as the only great RPG's from Squaresoft/SquareEnix. Star Ocean deserves very special mention.
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Postby Kamikaze » Thu Jun 29, 06 6:19 pm

Yeah it does, along with the Mana series and the Dragon Warrior series. Then there's Namco's Tales of Series... and you can't forget the Xenosaga series. There are a lot of good RPG series, and I feel they are all underrated because the only thing people seem to focus on is Final Fantasy, because it is designed for the casual gamer. All these other series are for people who are willing to take a little bit more time and don't care about a little extra difficulty. I mean, let's take Dragon Warrior VII as an example. To do everything in this game it can take up to 300 hours, while just the storyline itself will take about 100 hours. All throughout it is very fun, and is actually hard to beat. I couldn't believe how easy Final Fantasy X was. I mean, when you can take down the final boss in about two hits, it's too easy. The Final Fantasy stories themselves have also been wearing thin. I wasn't even able to finish Final Fantasy VIII it was getting so boring towards the end. Hell, before Final Fantasy VII only die-hard gamers had heard of Final Fantasy and it was at that point when Square stopped making the phenomenal games they were known for. I say, just try Suikoden, I'm sure it will get you hooked.
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Postby DarkKnight » Thu Jun 29, 06 6:39 pm

Kamikaze wrote:Yeah it does, along with the Mana series and the Dragon Warrior series. Then there's Namco's Tales of Series... and you can't forget the Xenosaga series. There are a lot of good RPG series, and I feel they are all underrated because the only thing people seem to focus on is Final Fantasy, because it is designed for the casual gamer. All these other series are for people who are willing to take a little bit more time and don't care about a little extra difficulty. I mean, let's take Dragon Warrior VII as an example. To do everything in this game it can take up to 300 hours, while just the storyline itself will take about 100 hours. All throughout it is very fun, and is actually hard to beat. I couldn't believe how easy Final Fantasy X was. I mean, when you can take down the final boss in about two hits, it's too easy. The Final Fantasy stories themselves have also been wearing thin. I wasn't even able to finish Final Fantasy VIII it was getting so boring towards the end. Hell, before Final Fantasy VII only die-hard gamers had heard of Final Fantasy and it was at that point when Square stopped making the phenomenal games they were known for. I say, just try Suikoden, I'm sure it will get you hooked.


I disagree. Final Fantasy may have grown to please more people, but it was never about being for the casual gamer. In fact, most of the goodies require you are anything but.

I'm a fan of most RPG's, but imo Final Fantasy hits all the right spots. Star Ocean 2 & 3 hit the same spots, but for different reasons.

Secret of Evermore > All RPG's.
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