StarCraft 2

[James]

which 1 lol

[Professor Layton]

Epeen

[James]

i have never added anyone onto that. but i welcome eu fa people because they need motivation to play too, and 3 certain players from dxmp are active.

[James]

James
Clix
Dex
Bale
Carmine
Epeen
Bosscelot
Blind
Aidan

Possible:
Vidyassassin
Grayman

lmao @ u if you're on this forum and don't play SC2.

[Professor Layton]

JCDBCEBBA

y so many names starting with B

[James]

Bustism.

Also, BenCarmine=Carmine hehehe

If you're lurking this thread and don't own SC2, buy it, you're missing out HARD.

[Professor Layton]

TvP is now balanced again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_U0Vu3lXOs

GG

[James]

What is it?

Hey Dex get me MMA replays.

[Professor Layton]

Didn't really get to watch more thasn a few seconds but it involves siegetanks falling outside of metalopolis map and sieging up at your opponent's mineral line from the depths of abyss lol

[James]

surely there will be a way for protoss to a move

[Professor Layton]

sand DTs double cloaking in the depths of abyss m8

[James]

what i want:

hellion harass 2factory/1factory expand vs zorg
slayers marauder style T>T
implying you can get the stuff you want vs protoss

[Professor Layton]

http://i.imgur.com/byKUU.png watch this image james, it's sc2 screnshot worksafe, by the Ex-SlayerS troll

For TvZ, i'd recommend you to just look at the build i did vs dex, I started it off pretty good macrowise, so it's a good thing to look at until the third tank gets out. (Of course you don't wanna lose your tanks like I did)

Also for the hellions, its very tempting to run em in, but don't overextend like I did. The main power of hellions is to deny the creep spread and map vision, so your 3-tank push follow up can siege up a lot closer to the zerg's base.

[Professor Layton]

I really need to work on my TvP

[James]

I need to drop quicker.

my control is becoming a lot better and almost reaching levels of what it used to be. i think my main problem is decisions and macro at the moment.

are bale and dex ready for consistant losing?, answer: no

[Professor Layton]

At the moment I always go for 1 rax gasless expand vs P. It should be able to hold off most allins, but unlike my zerg, I still have a lot of trouble trying to find out what allin is coming.

I think I figured out that 2 gas on one base before 4:00 is nearly always an allin or a build that's just very suboptimal vs an FE. Gonna try to get my scv out of the protoss base before the stalker pops (which is somewhere between 4-4:30?) and then running it back in to at least the natural to see if he has expanded yet by 5:30.

If 1gas no expand, I'm gonna get extra bunkers and prepare for a 4gate or something

If 2 gas build, i just need to drop a scan in the protoss base at 5-6 mins i guess, to see what is coming (blinkstalkers? gatewayrobo? voidray? DT?)

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After that I really need to work on forcing the towers out of the protoss' hands, I feel very uneasy to move out.

Also gotta work on ghost micro, really need to have them on a different control group to quickly emp and not take ages to switch between stim and emp all the time, because that's really killing me.

[James]

I need to get ghosts after my drop, I keep forgetting. One emp means the difference between the scum, also will allow me to extend my army without fear becoming very disadvantaged to the 1A race.

[Professor Layton]

[James]

ForGG is a false prophet. Shame.

[Professor Layton]

Did he play something last week then?

[James]

Yes, GSTL. Knocked out by random code B Protoss.

[Professor Layton]

Who?

that protoss also took out the stc and nada m8

As much as I hate the BW overhype, GSTL is known for it's code A/B players suddenly destroying others.

[James]

I forgot. It really was a random Code B Protoss.

[Professor Layton]

✔ EXTREME ✔

[Aidan]

You guys should seriously check this out, if you already haven't.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow_GK6WPO88[/youtube]

[James]

Please excuse the link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comme ... ou_hiding/

Terran is a skillful race, FACT.

[Aidan]

Odd considering most opponents I face are Terran.


Albeit I'm in bronze league, but I mostly fight Terran; Even in non-ranked.

[James]

I think it demonstrates how hard it is in the middle leagues to advance as Terran. Terran requires a lot of unit control compared to the other races and a constant attacking style and can throw people off. Also people literally play zerg/protoss because "it isn't that op terran.".

[Professor Layton]

You're honestly trying to make Terran sound harder as it is now james. For TvZ you don't need SICK MICRO in the middle leagues to beat your opponents and you could easily get to diamond league by just macroing well and doing a standard siegetank push. (My macro is bad and I'm still maintaining a >50% winrate vs platinum zergs)

TvP hoever might be different due to the fact that terran can't effectively go past tier 1.5 units due to protoss hardcountering mech. One storm can pretty much kill the terran's unit if they eat the most of it due to not being able to dodge it properly because of the map or forcefields. That being said, solid macro can bring you to platinum, as long as you do manage to stim your army properly and do basic kiting, as a lot of protosses don't transition well to HTs in the middle leagues or just die earlier on due to lack of firepower.

[James]

Middle leagues are platinum/diamond.