Deus Ex Alpha

Most of us know that there were only 2 Battlefield games.

Battlefield: 1942, and Battlefield 2. There were some expansion packs called Vietnam or 2142 but those are all she wrote for the Battlefield series. None others have ever been made, and anyone that says different is obviously telling a lie.

I had hoped EA had made a real sequel to the series.

Not the case.

Instead, we're getting Battlefield 1943. It's on the consoles and the PC and uh 'offers full 24 player support' and features three maps. Again they have brought back Wake Island. No-one loved Wake that much. It was good, but not brilliant. I'm tired of Wake Island EA. I really fucking am.

What pisses me off even more is the player limit. Everyone knows that when you played a 64 man BF2 game with every squad doing their part it truly did feel like a war. Now we have LESS players than a game of COD4.

Ever compared a COD4 map to a BF2 map? They're less than 1/10th of the size.

This shit is ridiculous DICE, I expected more from you. Especially on a new engine.

Eat a dick.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/951/951463p1.html

Sad fact is, after 1942 and 1942's expansions, EA began going downhill and thus began bringing it's developers down with it. But to be totally honest i didn't too much mind BF: Bad Company.

Hasn't EA ALWAYS been at the bottom of a hill?

The fact of the matter is, EA is taking too much involvement with their subsidiaries and building them more for console audience.

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:Hasn't EA ALWAYS been at the bottom of a hill?

Somewhat.

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:Hasn't EA ALWAYS been at the bottom of a hill?

No, not always. When they started they weren't too bad, they weren't what they are today, they weren't one of the biggest monopolies in the video game industry.

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:The fact of the matter is, EA is taking too much involvement with their subsidiaries and building them more for console audience.

EDIT2: For those of who hate reading: I hate EA, I hate war games. I'm looking for a non-War game singleplayer that'll work on a old laptop. Summary of my post /end.

This is true. It means a few things. They screw over the console companies more which means the PC developers don't get as much shit thrown in their face. But in saying that, it also means their PC developers get screwed over since EA are too busy fucking their console developers in the ass.

I don't think any game company starts off as an "asshole". I think it grows like that as the money rolls in. And for EA, the money rolled in and continues to do so. Many gamers are simply ignorant to Electronic Art's shit and IMO, abuse of the gaming industry.

EA do not care for games, they care for money. And it's unfortunate that game developers get caught in this crossfire, of sorts. I do not blame the developers associated with EA, I blame the management of EA and the management of the game developers who actually think selling out to EA will do them "good."

BioWare sold out, I hate that A LOT because BioWare is my favourite game developer. So I'm HOPING EA doesn't fuck them up too much, but that's going to happen. I didn't mind Pandemic either or Westwood. And what pisses me off about a lot of the first developers EA bought out is that EA fucking SACKED a lot of the original devs.

EA are greedy and power-hungry monopolizing fools. Hopefully this greed will crush them. I wait for such a day to happen because I fucking HATE EA and their shit games they pump out and cover in crap.

EDIT: Oh and as for Battlefield: 1943. But I have some of my opinions (which I always have).

First off, 24 player support? Doesn't Battlefield 1942 have MORE than that? I thought 1942 was 32-man, or is that just me? 24 man these days is NOTHING. Christ.

Next; only three levels? Bloody lazy pricks, THREE MAPS? "OH AND WE'RE RELEASING A WHOPPING THREE MAPS FOR YOU TO PLAY ON! ONE OF THEM BEING THE EVER-POPULAR WAKE ISLAND."

Third; Since when was Wake Island "ever-popular?" Wake Island is my most HATED map in 1942, I hate that crappy island. I always HAVE hated that shit island. Why do we need it AGAIN FFS!?

Forth; OH YAY MORE WAR GAMES. NOW WE HAVE BATTLEFIELD AND CALL OF MOTHERFUCKING DUTY! WHICH ONE TO PLAY? IDEA: HOW ABOUT NONE OF THE BASTARDS? I am goddamn sick of war games. In honesty, I only ever bought one: Battlefield 1942. I saw the others and thought "Why the heck would I buy another one when I have a perfectly OK one right here?"

I wanted to find a new single-player game. This isn't it obviously. If anyone knows of any that'd run on a crap laptop tell me. And if it's a war game, go to Hell and play your gayass COD.

I understand the point about say, the player-limit. That sounds like something that would've been interesting but now will be sorely missed and mean that the new game will not be the same, fair enough.

I even understand the consoles point a little, although getting angry cause you cant find a decent game for your old laptop is just stupid.

But basically, I think you're all getting too worked up.

Herez a nais quote to round off my little insight :

OH YAY MORE WAR GAMES. NOW WE HAVE BATTLEFIELD AND CALL OF MOTHERFUCKING DUTY! WHICH ONE TO PLAY? IDEA: HOW ABOUT NONE OF THE BASTARDS

Not going to go in to why I think that rates as the most stupid thing ever said by someone other than [T]RECLAIMER.

Finally, unless i'm misunderstanding "24 player support", that is 12 v 12 and a standard game of COD is 6 v 6?

Just chillout, cheers.

Clearly DNA loves Call of Duty, did I offend you? Did I offend you for playing a game made by developers who, like EA, love making money and shall continue to pump out shit titles like this to scam naive fools like you?

Btw, I never mentioned how old my laptop is. So long as it's graphics don't beat Oblivion's I could probably play it. That and most of the new games own the new shit.

EA aren't assholes.

They don't develop the Battlefield franchise, DICE do. EA has published dice for a long time now, so if DICE were to continue making more hardcore-centric Battlefield games I sincerely doubt EA would object except for the odd spinoff once in a while (See BF2 Modern Combat etc)

Whatever happened to Criterion developing FPS's

Protocol wrote:EA aren't assholes.

They don't develop the Battlefield franchise, DICE do. EA has published dice for a long time now, so if DICE were to continue making more hardcore-centric Battlefield games I sincerely doubt EA would object except for the odd spinoff once in a while (See BF2 Modern Combat etc)

I never said they were assholes. I said I hated EA and that EA are monopolizing, power-hungry and greedy. The developers who work for them are fine, I bet they don't see most of the money that EA gets anyway. It's the way EA is run I don't like.

Psychotic wrote:Protocol wrote:
EA aren't assholes.

They don't develop the Battlefield franchise, DICE do. EA has published dice for a long time now, so if DICE were to continue making more hardcore-centric Battlefield games I sincerely doubt EA would object except for the odd spinoff once in a while (See BF2 Modern Combat etc)


I never said they were assholes. I said I hated EA and that EA are monopolizing, power-hungry and greedy. The developers who work for them are fine, I bet they don't see most of the money that EA gets anyway. It's the way EA is run I don't like.

Mmm.. God forbid a company out to make money from games.. makes money from games? Do you know why so few developers leave EA these days? Because it's managed well, and they aren't left out of the loop. Interview upon interview was conducted when EA began the shift from shovelware to embarking on some original IPs and all signs pointed to the same thing.

Being left out of the loop and being greedy and completely different. EA could tell all their developers what they expect, when they expect it and how they want to go about achieveing their goals. This does not stop them from monopolizing the video game industry.

The same deal goes for Activision. Making money is absolutely fine, but EA love to buy IP's and then screw them over by making them different from the original games in said IP. EA and Activision also don't seem to give a rats ass about the game industry so long as they make money.

I do admit EA have gotten better over the years however and they don't seem as much of an Evil Empire as they did a few years ago. But they are still pumping out overused games like Activision are (Activision to me, are currently worse than EA simply because of the whole Call of Duty shit).

Psychotic wrote:(Activision to me, are currently worse than EA simply because of the whole Call of Duty shit).

I was going to proceed with this discussion as I wanted to know your intentions. Then I read this line and I don't ever see this coming to a conclusion, so lets leave it.

I have no intentions. I just really hate EA because of past events. They screwed over some of my favourite game developers, and they still pump out crap games, most of which have major gameplay flaws.

Activision are no better.

When they started they weren't too bad, they weren't what they are today

I do admit EA have gotten better over the years

I contradict myself a lot. I know.

Thus making your posts useless and without purpose?

Psychotic wrote: I'm looking for a non-War game singleplayer that'll work on a old laptop. Summary of my post /end.

Super Mario World

Vietnam fuck yeah.

You don't know, man!

The conduit has spoken!

But yeah, trying to get some appeal from the new casual gamer market by selling out franchises is another business model EA hope to reinforce.

Come to think of it, what other outlying genres are there from DICE that are due for a sequel?

Mirrors Edge

Any FRANCHISE?


Mirror's Edge is just a game so far.

Battlefield is not a franchise

DICE are the only developers and EA are the only publishers

Eh, I suppose you're correct.

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:Any FRANCHISE?


Mirror's Edge is just a game so far.

But the gameplay is nice

.....1943?

First '42, so now....'43.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Aaron wrote:.....1943?

First '42, so now....'43.

WHAT THE FUCK.

It's a way to make more money.

"Will the Allies the Second World War?"

"Stay tuned for another exciting episode of: Battlefield".