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Postby Shinobi » Sun Jun 21, 09 6:03 pm

I've been considering building a righ with phase change cooling for the cpu, and water cooling for the rest of the main components... just... ugh.

So many complications!!! Condensation, water leaks etc etc.

Gonna cost a fortune... anyone reckon this sorta kit is worth the effort?
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Postby Baleout » Sun Jun 21, 09 6:48 pm

If it doesn't need hydrogen cooling systems it's NOT RIG ENOUGH
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Postby Gishank » Sun Jun 21, 09 7:49 pm

It depends on your system. If your system requires the extreme cooling, then i advise you do so, but get a specialist to do it because if you fuck up by not tightning a tube properly and it comes off when your PC is on, you're fucked.
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Postby ~[ß]Lost~ » Sun Jun 21, 09 9:33 pm

Gishank wrote:It depends on your system. If your system requires the extreme cooling, then i advise you do so, but get a specialist to do it because if you fuck up by not tightning a tube properly and it comes off when your PC is on, you're fucked.


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Postby Siva » Sun Jun 21, 09 11:32 pm

Watercooling stopped being cool 4 years ago man.

Just buy some more fans.
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Postby Shinobi » Sun Jun 21, 09 11:44 pm

Phase change isn't water cooling.
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Postby Shinobi » Sun Jun 21, 09 11:45 pm

Baleout wrote:If it doesn't need hydrogen cooling systems it's NOT RIG ENOUGH


Liquid Helium.... almost at absolute zero!!
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Postby clyzm » Mon Jun 22, 09 1:32 am

Just buy some more fans.


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Postby Siva » Mon Jun 22, 09 11:06 am

Shinobi wrote:and water cooling for the rest of the main components


Protocol wrote:Watercooling stopped being cool 4 years ago man.

Just buy some more fans.


But since you mentioned it, Phase Change cooling was never cool.
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Mon Jun 22, 09 11:35 am

Protocol wrote:
Shinobi wrote:and water cooling for the rest of the main components


Protocol wrote:Watercooling stopped being cool 4 years ago man.

Just buy some more fans.


But since you mentioned it, Phase Change cooling was never cool.


I can't tell if you mean cool as in awesome or cool as in cold...
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Postby Tantalus » Mon Jun 22, 09 11:37 am

Shinobi wrote:
Baleout wrote:If it doesn't need hydrogen cooling systems it's NOT RIG ENOUGH


Liquid Helium.... almost at absolute zero!!
Did you know at near absolute zero, the speed at which photons travel is reduced to that of a push bike.



But yeah, not bloody cheap.


Protocol wrote:Watercooling stopped being cool 4 years ago man.


And talking about the cooling system of your desktop computer was never cool to begin with.
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Postby Shinobi » Wed Jun 24, 09 6:29 pm

Lol. I don't wanna be "cool" I want my system to be cool.

And yes, I know about absolute zero.

Fuck it, water will do (and will save me a couple of grand!)
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Postby clyzm » Wed Jun 24, 09 11:20 pm

Water cooling is fucking expensive yo.

Get a delta fan.
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Postby Tantalus » Wed Jun 24, 09 11:49 pm

Oooh, that reminds me. Sorry to draw attention away from your issue Shin but I have a dilemma.



I am soon to build a nice rig that I expect to last me quite a while and I was looking at cases. I have narrowed it down to two: One can hold NINE 120mm fans and the other holds two 180mm's on the top and one 120mm at the bottom. The latter looks better and is bigger with better design yet I'm not sure that three fans are enough to cool and spread the heat from a setup that I plan to overclock.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Jun 24, 09 11:53 pm

Tantalus wrote:Oooh, that reminds me. Sorry to draw attention away from your issue Shin but I have a dilemma.



I am soon to build a nice rig that I expect to last me quite a while and I was looking at cases. I have narrowed it down to two: One can hold NINE 120mm fans and the other holds two 180mm's on the top and one 120mm at the bottom. The latter looks better and is bigger with better design yet I'm not sure that three fans are enough to cool and spread the heat from a setup that I plan to overclock.


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Nine 120mm fans? Crazy shit. Besides that, two 180mm fans on top wouldn't adequately cool it unless you have some badass exhaust.
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Postby Siva » Wed Jun 24, 09 11:55 pm

If you're an idiot you'll get the case with 9 120mm fans what the hell is wrong with you Mobo and CPU choice matters more than cooling (obviously you need good airflow) but 9 120mm fans are just batshit retarded.

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1 120mm and 2 60's in the back was enough to OC a Q6600 to ridiculous heights.
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Postby Tantalus » Wed Jun 24, 09 11:59 pm

Well apparently the latter has the motherboard tray rotated 90 degrees to the right so all of the outlet fans from the video cards, heatsink etc flow out the top of the case. So methinks the airflow is pretty damned good.
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Postby clyzm » Thu Jun 25, 09 2:40 am

Protocol wrote:If you're an idiot you'll get the case with 9 120mm fans what the hell is wrong with you Mobo and CPU choice matters more than cooling (obviously you need good airflow) but 9 120mm fans are just batshit retarded.

2 Intake
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1 120mm and 2 60's in the back was enough to OC a Q6600 to ridiculous heights.


I don't know, I have a liking to fans. It makes the case look very sharp and ultra badass not to mention cool.

Don't know what weather you guys are getting in England but here in Chicago it can reach 95 F really easy, and I can't afford air conditioning unfortunately. I have a case with 2 250mm on side and very very good airflow, and case temp can reach 30-33c easy. This is not good for the parts, especially my CPU which can reach 93c while rendering in C4D.

I'm just saying, it wouldn't hurt to have more cooling. For some people it means more fans, like me.

Also Tantalus,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... ne%20raven

IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
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Postby Siva » Thu Jun 25, 09 2:51 am

The last time we had anything close to 30C (Considering 95F is 33C) people died and the country was considering it a health emergency.

So not quite as hot no.
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Postby clyzm » Thu Jun 25, 09 3:19 am

Right now

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If only I lived in Siberia.. :(
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Postby Tantalus » Thu Jun 25, 09 9:42 am

Indeed that is the one I am considering.



And the nine-fanned power station is here:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... =7&subcat=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811119146


Obviously not going to have NVIDIA marketing slapped all over it.
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Postby Dae » Thu Jun 25, 09 9:57 am

portable mp3 player wrote:If only I lived in Siberia..

Offtopic: there was 93F in Novosibirsk a few days ago. It's usually very warm there in summer.
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Postby clyzm » Thu Jun 25, 09 12:09 pm

Those are some expensive cases, dawg. I think you'll be fine with a Coolermaster HAF, just saying.

Offtopic: there was 93F in Novosibirsk a few days ago. It's usually very warm there in summer.


Offtopic: I meant northern Siberia 8)
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Postby Tantalus » Thu Jun 25, 09 12:41 pm

Well I appreciate the advice seeing as I lack direction at the moment (this being my first time :wink: ).
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Postby Allan » Thu Jun 25, 09 12:42 pm

...I don't get it.
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Postby Tantalus » Thu Jun 25, 09 12:48 pm

Hope.


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