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Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 11:50 am**

BBC wrote:Sony has warned users of its PlayStation Network that their personal information, including credit card details, may have been stolen.

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Name
Address (city, state/province, zip or postal code)
Country
E-mail address
Date of birth
PlayStation Network/Qriocity passwords and login
Handle/PSN online ID

Sony admitted that credit card information, used to purchase games, films and music, may also have been stolen.

I guess it was hard to miss this news today, it's even on Euronews.

What's not in the news is this

techland@time wrote:A user claiming to be a moderator for a popular PS3 downloads forum has an intriguing (if highly speculative) theory up on Reddit about why the PSN went down. This user notes the outage corresponds loosely with the release of Rebug, a firmware tool that unlocks development features in a retail PS3. According to the theory, Rebug PS3 users may have gained access to Sony's private developer network (the so-called "external intrusion"), entered fake credit card information (unchecked against an authentication service, this user reasons, since the network is private), and were thus able to pull down PSN content like gluttons feeding at trough.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 12:14 pm**

This is a disaster for Sony, what was just a small issue before with PSN being down has now turned into a big big incident

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 12:18 pm**

The reasons to dislike Sony's approach to videogames just keeps mounting up for me. Whenever it's their fault or not.

The database was reported to have absolutely no encryption on it. I struggle to see a company of Sony's size with the data of millions will not provide that kind of protection for it. Whoever has it pretty much has got plain text with zero security

Funnily enough, an unconfirmed rumor (with nothing to base it on) has been passed around that they're planning to move PSN+ forward as a mandatory subscription to play online because of the attack. Highly unlikely but if it ever comes true; lol.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 12:20 pm**

hey danny

wait for it

wait for it

ps3 da worst

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 12:20 pm**

The only thing Sony have done for the better of this videogame generation is secure good second (?) or third party exclusives for the PS3. The amount of damage they've caused to themselves, the PC format and their users is incredible.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 1:21 pm**

I think it's absolutely disgusting that there was relatively no security protecting the information, I wouldn't be surprised if a vast number of people took Sony to court over the matter. People have already apparently lost alot of cash due to this which was taken with the information that the hacker(s) got. Fortuently I managed to get my card blocked and replaced before they got to me.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 1:22 pm**

50% sure that i never entered my shit into PSN regarding credit cards, lets hope for the best

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 1:24 pm**

I did, i'm nervous now, i'll not make that mistake again

Sony dropped the ball big time on this, i'm not pleased

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 1:29 pm**

ps3 da fuckin worst dannyboi

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 1:31 pm**

sony da worst

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 4:28 pm**

ynnaD wrote:sony da worst

sony da worst

ps3 da best

Something tells me that after all that has happened this console gen, Sony is going to make the PS4 flawless.

I mean, they kinda have to (and at a good price point too!). There's already a lot of people flocking from Sony because of this incident.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 5:12 pm**

Aidan wrote:Sony is going to make the PS4 flawless.

The more I learn about Sony (including the prosumer market), the more it makes an impression of an overblown bureaucratic corporation that has lost the ability of understanding and reacting to the situation adequately. Its existance became a derivative of its enormous scale. As a result their products are less innovative, thus rarely become #1 on the market and even if it happens they are more prone to lose the title very quickly because of inadequate pricing.

So speaking of PS4 the only good thing Sony can do with it is to dump the price, but make the best product? Very unlikely.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 5:22 pm**

Dae wrote:
Aidan wrote:Sony is going to make the PS4 flawless.

The more I learn about Sony (including the prosumer market), the more it makes an impression of an overblown bureaucratic corporation that has lost the ability of understanding and reacting to the situation adequately. Its existance became a derivative of its enormous scale. As a result their products are less innovative, thus rarely become #1 on the market and even if it happens they are more prone to lose the title very quickly because of inadequate pricing.

So speaking of PS4 the only good thing Sony can do with it is to dump the price, but make the best product? Very unlikely.

Yes. I can agree with that. As it is unlikely, it's still possible.

Such as I said, it has to be flawless. They can't fuck up any more.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 6:28 pm**

Dae wrote:The more I learn about Sony (including the prosumer market), the more it makes an impression of an overblown bureaucratic corporation that has lost the ability of understanding and reacting to the situation adequately. Its existance became a derivative of its enormous scale. As a result their products are less innovative, thus rarely become #1 on the market and even if it happens they are more prone to lose the title very quickly because of inadequate pricing.

They weren't top of the market 2005 - early 2010 because of that attitude.

Riding those PS2 was popular waves did not work when their user base was scattered with cool new motion controls from Nintendo and good portions of traditional gamers going for the 360.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 10:45 pm**

Got an email from Sony, apparantly my details are very very likley in the hands of the hackers

Anger, i have it

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 10:57 pm**

ynnaD wrote:Got an email from Sony, apparantly my details are very very likley in the hands of the hackers

Anger, i have it

So they're actually almost certain now? Because they had no bloody clue this morning.

Also, that really sucks, man. Hopefully things won't go pear-shaped. Well, things are pear-shaped now but let's hope that pear doesn't go mushy.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 11 11:08 pm**

I don't mind the PSN being down, that i can handle, but for Sony to be big headed enough to have minimum security on our bank details and the such, because their "confident" PS3/PSN could never be hacked, is down right disgraceful.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 5:15 am**

I have a feeling that Sony is going to eventually die in the console race if they don't get their shit together by some sort of magic.

Also, the FBI is all over Sony. Sony is allegedly being sued, but there have been no arrests yet.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 9:36 am**

Funny, I've still yet to recieve an e-mail.. Sony aren't very organised are they.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 9:42 am**

HI KLOP

EMAIL IS PROBS SENT TO KCORPHQ

SOZ ABOUT DAT

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 2:58 pm**

What a mess. Hope my shit doesnt get stolen. Really don't see Sony coming back from this, what a huge clusterfuck.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 3:58 pm**

The latest, is that Sony has found no evidence of stolen credit card information, etc.

They are physically recreating PSN, and in another more "secure" location.

After the upgrade is complete, PSN will come back online alongside a firmware update. With this update, every PSN user is required to change their password.

Even More News:

Every (modded or unmodded) 360 console that has ever been banned has been unbanned today. Nobody knows why, or how. Microsoft is looking into it.

Could this be linked into the PSN attack?

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 5:17 pm**

Wouldn't happen with dreamcast.

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 6:52 pm**

Aidan wrote:
Even More News:

Every (modded or unmodded) 360 console that has ever been banned has been unbanned today. Nobody knows why, or how. Microsoft is looking into it.

Could this be linked into the PSN attack?

LOL! Brilliant! If true like...

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 11 7:58 pm**

It was news from days ago, they got rebanned.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 11 1:34 am**

I've lost almost all my respect for Sony now

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 11 8:59 am**

They say info of 2.2 million creditcards have been obtained by the hackers.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 11 9:00 am**

Didn't they say the credit card information was at least definitely encrypted yesterday out of the lot?

Oh Sony... rofl.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 11 9:03 am**

Well, the database has been put up for sale on a 'crime blackmarket' forum. And perhaps it was encrypted, but if they also manage to obtain the key to decrypt..
EDIT: Apparently, the hackers first tried selling it back to Sony, they refused.

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 11 9:08 am**

wheres cyber division of fbi when you need them

so sony actually got contacted by these folks if they tried 'selling it'? doesn't that mean like omg IP shit or computer name and omgbusted?

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