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"To My Someday Daughter"

Postby James » Fri Sep 16, 11 6:43 pm

Article on sexism and nerd culture.

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc ... ghter.html
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Postby ynnaD » Tue Sep 20, 11 11:58 am

It was a bit longer than needed to be but the core point was worth the read.

Applies to the entire gaming community, not just Magic, i thought these words in the article was pretty powerful too and is true for too many of us:

Men and women live in different worlds. At core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core women are afraid men will kill them.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Tue Sep 20, 11 1:11 pm

I find it interesting how time and time again I look at the comments, and I see variations of this argument;

"Don't take the internet so seriously!" vs "If you don't take the internet seriously, you shouldn't use it"

There's probably no defining answer to this situation, my two cents is that as the internet and by extension video games, are becoming more of a mainstream medium for communication, it should be taken somewhat seriously.

As part of having a relationship with Holly, who grew up with parental and brotherly influence to play and enjoy video games, it's interesting to see how general nuclear family AND gender roles have an affect, or can be broken down, in how sons/daughters conform to stereotypes.

There is some generalised truth that Women will have the obstacle of a hobby (the man's hobby) that is between them and their partner. This can be broken down into minor chunks.

Is it an obstacle because the man is obsessed with the hobby? Is it an obstacle because they cannot share the hobby? Is it an obstacle because the Woman has no hobby of her own of equal status?

"Gender is complicated". Only so because of thousands of years of societal evolution. Religion seeks to allow gender to be consistent, but in doing so it sets a standard, and as a standard, it's not agreeable. Some religions "update" or "rethink" how they treat gender, to conform to an update to general social growth. For a lot of morality, religion can serve as a good baseline for moral questions, given that the interpretation is taken generally correct, and that the person using it as a baseline knows there is still some personal development required to "mature".

tl:dr - I don't have any sympathy if you don't want to read it, you most likely conform purely to "Don't take the internet so seriously!" and can pretty much fuck off
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Postby James » Wed Sep 21, 11 12:48 pm

ynnaD wrote:It was a bit longer than needed to be but the core point was worth the read.


I think the gigantic volume puts a strong emphasis on how personal the subject means to him past, present and the future. If he disregarded the letter writing style and only briefly mentioned his future daughter then the readers won't intake on how much it means to him. If he didn't show his experiences as he aged or decided not to show that many examples of sexism in the nerd communities the article wouldn't be as strong.

Had a good laugh at the fictional juggalo part.
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Postby Hanover Fist » Wed Sep 21, 11 8:41 pm

MrBlackDX wrote:
There is some generalised truth that Women will have the obstacle of a hobby (the man's hobby) that is between them and their partner. This can be broken down into minor chunks.

Is it an obstacle because the man is obsessed with the hobby? Is it an obstacle because they cannot share the hobby? Is it an obstacle because the Woman has no hobby of her own of equal status?



By the expectations of society do many women conform themselves to the expected ethics of their gender. Although more females play video games, its still statistically less common than males. If we could disambiguate sex traits in everyday things (like hobbies, arts, stances, and tastes) then there would cease to be that indelible line between one being identifiable as feminine or masculine except by core mannerism itself which is unique enough to transcend being attributable solely to sex.

Furthermore, men and women could cohabitate more productively in society and I don't mean breeding. I'm talking of empathy in fellows; for one to attempt at comprehending another one by examining a possible perspective much afar from their own. This is extremely difficult through large cultural barriers and, of course, through gender. But just because it is difficult people often tend to abandon the attempt to empathize insightfully and that is unacceptable. For although it seems at times too unlikely to ever understand someone other than oneself the need to do so is far greater a responsibility of coexistence.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Wed Sep 21, 11 10:15 pm

It's hard to take you seriously when just underneath you have;

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Postby Hanover Fist » Wed Sep 21, 11 10:48 pm

Think of it as a sculpture beneath a fine post; monument to its elegance. Only the words are the fine bust WOOP WOOP.
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Postby MrBlackDX » Wed Sep 21, 11 11:15 pm

Respecting the female form

Fair enough

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Postby Hanover Fist » Thu Sep 22, 11 10:31 pm

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Postby James » Sun Jan 08, 12 7:10 pm

Bump for good reading.
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Postby Aidan » Mon Jan 09, 12 1:26 am

I'm a thigh man.



-and bum.



Nerd culture is just excellerating sexuality in places unheard of


E.G. EG.InControL
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