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John C. Dvorak
The nature of the personal computer is simply not fully understood by companies like Apple (or anyone else for that matter). Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the “why” out of the equation — as in “why would I want this?” The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a “mouse”. There is no evidence that people want to use these things. I don’t want one of these new fangled devices.
http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn ... d-the-mac/
Stewart Alsop (Fortune Magazine)
Let’s get this straight right away: Apple Computer did the wrong thing. On December 20, Apple announced that it would spend $400 million to purchase Steve Jobs’s company, Next Software. The company said it would adopt Next’s NextStep operating system for future versions of the Macintosh computer. Most of the commentary I’ve seen about this decision is off the mark, especially the talk about Jobs coming back to save Apple. That is sheer nonsense. He won’t be anywhere near the company.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ ... /index.htm
Michael Dell (Dell, CEO)
Michael Dell, among others, was asked about what he would do if he were CEO of Apple:
"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders."
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-203937.html
Bill Gates (Microsoft, CEO)
“What I can’t figure out is why he [Steve Jobs] is even trying? He knows he can’t win.”
http://www.cringely.com/2010/04/09/masters-tournament/
The Street
Don't buy Apple's (AAPL) stock. [...]
To survive, Apple has to convince Windows users to migrate to the Mac platform. But since Apple is not competitive on either price or applications, there is no compelling reason for users to switch. The game is effectively over. Dell, IBM and Hewlett Packard have a stranglehold on the PC industry that is secure, with Dell’s build-to-order model the clear winner over the long term. […]
Apple’s story now is fodder for business historians — don’t make it fodder for your portfolio.
http://www.thestreet.com/comment/thetur ... 02957.html
Rod Bare (Morningstar analyst)
“The economics of something like [an Apple iPhone] aren’t that compelling.”
http://macdailynews.com/2006/12/08/anal ... ompelling/
The Register
iPhone will fail [...] As customers start to realise that the competition offers better functionality at a lower price, by negotiating a better subsidy, sales will stagnate. After a year a new version will be launched, but it will lack the innovation of the first and quickly vanish.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/23 ... page2.html
Steve Ballmer (Microsoft, CEO)
“[Apple's iPhone] is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn’t appeal to business customers because it doesn’t have a keyboard which makes it not a very good email machine… So, I, I kinda look at that and I say, well, I like our strategy. I like it a lot.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U
Matthew Lynn (Bloomberg)
Don’t let that fool you into thinking that it matters. The big competitors in the mobile-phone industry such as Nokia Oyj and Motorola Inc. won’t be whispering nervously into their clamshells over a new threat to their business.
[...]
The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant… Apple is unlikely to make much of an impact on this market… Apple will sell a few to its fans, but the iPhone won’t make a long-term mark on the industry.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home
Richard Sprague, a senior marketing director at Microsoft:
"I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone. Even some of my blindly-loyal pro-Microsoft friends and colleagues talk like it’s a real innovation and will “redefine the market” or “usher in a new age”.
What!?!? [...] I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful). People need this to be a phone, first and foremost. But with 5 hours of battery life? No keypad? (you try typing a phone number on that screen, no matter how wonderful it is — you will want a keypad). And for all that whiz-bang Internet access, you absolutely need the phone to work, immediately, every single time. Will it do that?
So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008.
http://blogs.msdn.com/sprague/archive/2 ... /java.aspx
Jan Libbenga (The Register)
The iPhone? Undoubtedly a very nice product, but there is no virtual substitute for a real keyboard, reckons RIM CEO Mike Lazaridis: “Try typing a web key on a touch screen on an iPhone, that’s a real challenge. You cannot see what you type.”
Lazaridis told European reporters in Waterloo, Canada last week, that he isn’t too impressed with Apple’s iPhone and it won’t be a threat to the success of BlackBerry’s smart phone (with over 10.5 million users).
“The iPhone has severe limitations when it comes to effortless typing. Of course you have more screen space, with more artistic interactions, but that’s not enough. We’ve seen this before when Palm tried virtual keyboards. When they launched the Treo they licensed our keyboard.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/08 ... lackberry/
Al Sacco (CrackBerry)
Sure the iPhone SDK has been released, and there might be some great apps in the works, but in my opinion, that’s too little, too late, as they say.
http://crackberry.com/top-10-reasons-wh ... blackberry
Mitchell Ashley (Network World)
Apple iPhone Doomed To Failure -- Windows Mobile 7 Plans For 2009 Leaked
Karl Denninger (Seeking Alpha. Read. Decide. Invest.)
Seriously considering either an outright short on Apple or a pair trade — short AAPL, long RIMM.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/227432- ... e-problems
Leonid Kanopka (Seeking Alpha. Read. Decide. Invest.)
Apple is a great company with wonderful products, but its run is up. It seems to me that innovation is beginning to run dry, and the stock price is overinflated. The stock has begun to fall already dropping from its $426 high. If the economy does not pick up and the company does not cushion its freefall, we could see new lows into 2012 — maybe $85. Whatever the case, I see a rocky future and a new bubble about to burst. My recommendation: Sell.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/310800- ... y-to-burst
clyzm wrote:I have to hand it to Apple for their phones, which even that are surpassed by the refinement and simplicity of the Android phones, and pretty much nothing else. Their computers are always overpriced and most of everything they sell is expensive for the brand name only.
It's a brand that likes to associate itself with vain, artistic free-spirit types that takes refuge in believing they bought the better brand. I still to this day cannot find a single productive use for an iPad.
clyzm wrote:It's a brand that likes to associate itself with vain, artistic free-spirit types that takes refuge in believing they bought the better brand.
clyzm wrote:I have to hand it to Apple for their phones, which even that are surpassed by the refinement and simplicity of the Android phones, and pretty much nothing else.
Tantalus wrote:clyzm wrote:I have to hand it to Apple for their phones, which even that are surpassed by the refinement and simplicity of the Android phones, and pretty much nothing else.
I see nothing 'refined' about the Android phones I have used, then again I haven't tried the latest operating system.
clyzm wrote:Tantalus wrote:clyzm wrote:I have to hand it to Apple for their phones, which even that are surpassed by the refinement and simplicity of the Android phones, and pretty much nothing else.
I see nothing 'refined' about the Android phones I have used, then again I haven't tried the latest operating system.
Me neither, but my original Galaxy S has never crashed once, the layout is simplistic and not too showy. Granted, the Android systems are based off Apple, but they definitely seem like the step up refined version of them
~þsÿçhø~ wrote:My laptops screen is broke, how can i fix it?
James wrote:THROW DARK SOULS AT IT
ynnaD wrote:clyzm wrote:Tantalus wrote:clyzm wrote:I have to hand it to Apple for their phones, which even that are surpassed by the refinement and simplicity of the Android phones, and pretty much nothing else.
I see nothing 'refined' about the Android phones I have used, then again I haven't tried the latest operating system.
Me neither, but my original Galaxy S has never crashed once, the layout is simplistic and not too showy. Granted, the Android systems are based off Apple, but they definitely seem like the step up refined version of them
My workplace is majority iPhone, and minority Android.
At my Helpdesk, all i'm ever getting asked about is problems with iPhones, not taking charge, buttons not working, touch screen not working etc, i'm honestly struggling to remember ever seeing an Android here.
I personally love my own Android
Tantalus wrote:Your company obviously hasn't seen an HTC Desire, Dan.
Mine is just a hog, an absolute hog. Even Google-owned applications (Youtube) don't work right. If it buffers for more than five seconds, it forces me to restart. The system refuses to update, always saying it's low on space before it can start. (and I physically can't delete ANYTHING). Battery sucks, crashes quite a few times.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!
~þsÿçhø~ wrote:My laptops screen is broke, how can i fix it?
James wrote:THROW DARK SOULS AT IT