Festivals/Concerts

[DarkKnight]

Sounds like nu-metal to me.

You sound like an idiot to me.

Take twenty pills and call me in the morin' if problem persists.

Electronic music.

Which falls into the areas I said...
(All 3, actually.)

[James]

Nu metal (also called new metal, aggro metal or nü metal using the traditional heavy metal umlaut) is a musical genre that has origins in the mid 1990s. It typically fuses influences from the grunge[1] and alternative metal of the early 1990s with hip hop, electronic music and other metal genres, most often thrash metal and groove metal.

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[Krieg]

Take twenty pills and call me in the morin' if problem persists.

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

[DarkKnight]

Nu metal (also called new metal, aggro metal or nü metal using the traditional heavy metal umlaut) is a musical genre that has origins in the mid 1990s. It typically fuses influences from the grunge[1] and alternative metal of the early 1990s with hip hop, electronic music and other metal genres, most often thrash metal and groove metal.

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Electronic music without metal is... electronic music... I thought that was obvious...

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

*prescribe

-1

[clyzm]

Lol.

Those bands are death metal/grindcore/goregrind Steve. Thrash metal is diff.

[DarkKnight]

Lol.

Those bands are death metal/grindcore/goregrind Steve. Thrash metal is diff.

Vocals

Nu metal bands often feature aggressive vocals that range from melodic singing akin to pop, rock and punk, guttural screaming and shouting from various forms of metal, and rapping.

If the shoe fits...

[clyzm]

Grindcore - metal roar and yelling.
Goregrind - gurgle and guttural yelling.
Death metal - death grunting (low Satan-like vocals)

[DarkKnight]

Grindcore - metal roar and yelling.
Goregrind - gurgle and guttural yelling.
Death metal - death grunting (low Satan-like vocals)

All sounds the same to me.

LOL @ 'metal roar', sounds so silly.

[clyzm]

It's just like a loud yell that is sustained.

Prime example:

Angel of Death intro by Slayer. How Araya moves from high pitch scream to traditional metal roar.

[DarkKnight]

It's just like a loud yell that is sustained.

Prime example:

Angel of Death intro by Slayer. How Araya moves from high pitch scream to traditional metal roar.

Just lol at all that.

The deeper both of you try and define the genre, you more you're opening it up to critique.

At least one thing is sorted; grind is emo, those bands yell all the time.

[clyzm]

Emo varies much from goregrind, plus emo music is usually crying/implying of depression and emotional lyrics dealing with angst and depression.

Goregrind is much much different, with extremely violent lyrics, rarely any screaming (more likely yelling and guttural vocals), and a much faster rate on drums and guitar solos. The atmosphere is not depressing, it is so violent and so crazy that sometimes goregrind bands incorporate it with crude humor.

Example:

My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade
-Sounds depressing, the song and lyrics is full of angst and depression.

Gut - Public Animal No. 1
-The song title makes fun of Public Enemy #1 already, and the lyrics and tempo is extremely intense if you listen to it.

[DarkKnight]

Emo varies much from goregrind, plus emo music is usually crying/implying of depression and emotional lyrics dealing with angst and depression.

Goregrind is much much different, with extremely violent lyrics, rarely any screaming (more likely yelling and guttural vocals), and a much faster rate on drums and guitar solos. The atmosphere is not depressing, it is so violent and so crazy that sometimes goregrind bands incorporate it with crude humor.

I didn't say grindgore, I said grind.

Grindgore and shit like that makes me lol. The music, the over the topness, but mostly the fans.

[clyzm]

Ah.

Cus usually goregrind is referred to as just "grind" and grindcore bands like Napalm Death are referred to as "grindcore" so ye.

Grindcore is a much angrier type of music, more angry than angst.

[Krieg]

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

*prescribe

-1

Never ask parents
+1
ps. Your ugly
+2 !

[DarkKnight]

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

*prescribe

-1

Never ask parents
+1
ps. Your ugly
+2 !

Lol, you had all that time and the best you could come up with is 'your ugly'?

Go away little boy, you bother me.

[Krieg]

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

*prescribe

-1

Never ask parents
+1
ps. Your ugly
+2 !

Lol, you had all that time and the best you could come up with is 'your ugly'?

Go away little boy, you bother me.

That's my purpose.Besides , I used my precious time for learning for a bussiness economic exam.Touche twatt.
What did you do in [i] all[/] that time.Let me guess , mastrubait .




Oke cut the dumb fuck jokes and take a hike dude.

[Snakey]

Oke cut the dumb fuck jokes and take a hike dude.

No you.

[synthetic]

with dk away i saw way less flames on these boards rofl, or was it just me seeing it that way. now youve started with music. i dont listen any of the bands mentioned on this page but i wonder what is your take on aggrotech dear dk. angry kids once more?

[clyzm]

DK was born to debate and a good debater he is.

[MainMan]

I was born to bate and a good bater I am.

[synthetic]

re:clyzm
today this night he seems to debate on far more useless things than ive ever seen you "debate" on, perhaps this is an exaggeration but still.. lol.. what happened with the switched places.

His view on music sure does look narrow minded and his brute claims on how everything falls into same box no matter how you call it even surpasses the borders of idioticy. i wouldve never thought id have to say that about a generally respected community member.

i am drawing this conclusion from his posts that regard the metal subgenres, and after finishing my previous post i to my horror realized the guy actually DOES put electronic music into same pot. My God! What next?!

[clyzm]

Oh shit.

Two people that I've been beaten by in a debate, Random and DK.

FIGHT!

Round 1!

[James]

I was born to bate and a good bater I am.

Yes, master.

Oh I am TOO good.

[James]

Did my post get deleted?, sure I posted it...

I'm not talking about electric guitars and what not, I am talking about the music that relies on artificial and electronically produced sounds (some exceptions of course with sampled beats). Well known examples being trance and techno.

According how you said thrash metal being nu-metal... electronic music is sampled in nu-metal alot of times, but if you assume the same with thrash, you may as well say Madonna, Bjork and etc are also nu-metal.
Hell infact, the beeps in FF7 are nu-metal.

[DarkKnight]

Did the doctor perscribe you that ?

*prescribe

-1

Never ask parents
+1
ps. Your ugly
+2 !

Lol, you had all that time and the best you could come up with is 'your ugly'?

Go away little boy, you bother me.

That's my purpose.Besides , I used my precious time for learning for a bussiness economic exam.Touche twatt.
What did you do in [i] all[/] that time.Let me guess , mastrubait .

lol @ Business economics... You've gotta still be in school, then.

Here's a hint; If you want to make an insult, make sure people can actually understand it. This is a forum, you have all the time in the world to insult me, so at least do a better job of it.

Oke cut the dumb fuck jokes and take a hike dude.

Now why would I do something like that?

According how you said thrash metal being nu-metal... electronic music is sampled in nu-metal alot of times, but if you assume the same with thrash, you may as well say Madonna, Bjork and etc are also nu-metal.
Hell infact, the beeps in FF7 are nu-metal.

I'd like to know how you came to that... You're saying that if nu-metal takes influence from a genre, that genre is nu-metal? I don't seem to recall ever implying that...

[Krieg]

What you think , I graduated and had a job ? lol , I wish.But I prefer to call it college instead of school.

But seriously , you should do research into genres before you blurt something out about those genres which isn't true.
On other music forums you would belong to the retards that blurt out that korn is industrial and Marilyn manson is schock rock.
Wikipedia is a start for some basic information.

[DarkKnight]

What you think , I graduated and had a job ? lol , I wish.But I prefer to call it college instead of school.

You're studying business ec' in Collage? O_O

But seriously , you should do research into genres before you blurt something out about those genres which isn't true.
On other music forums you would belong to the retards that blurt out that korn is industrial and Marilyn manson is schock rock.
Wikipedia is a start for some basic information.

To be really honest, you'd be hard pressed telling most of the shit apart these days. Death metal, goregrind, thrash, etc. They all sound the same, and that is why I put them in 'nu-metal'.

Same thing with emo, and all it's subs.

[James]

But it just isnt nu-metal lol, you called thrash metal numetal because it happened to be part of its infulences along with electronic music.

[Conceited]

You like it, you listen to it.

[Krieg]

To be really honest, you'd be hard pressed telling most of the shit apart these days. Death metal, goregrind, thrash, etc. They all sound the same, and that is why I put them in 'nu-metal'.

Same thing with emo, and all it's subs.

Actually no.I have seen people that know so much about the music they listen to and to what genre they belong to , they sound like experts but in real it aint very hard for yourself to understand it.The bands itself already give you a hint by saying what genre they are.
Through times the music changed so much that you can't put it all under one genre.Sub- genres are to clarify things , not to make things harder to understand.For someone like you who never listened to any grindcore it will be very hard to understand what this is , how it was formed , what the history is of this genre and what influences there are.
You can't possibly put black metal and death metal in one corner.It is both extremely different.But only if you listen to both you understand it.For an outsider like you DK it all seems the same but it isn't.
Rock is all rock but even there you got a bit of sub-genres like punk rock or hard rock.
The lyrics and even the music itself in metal can be so different from eahc other that you can't define it all as just metal.