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by **Dae** » Thu Feb 24, 05 9:51 pm

You all probably heard about my idea - to cut single player off, make multiplayer only version of Deus Ex, that is many times lighter than original, to go and spam other (mainly, UT community) forums with this link to enlarge our little community by bringing other players.
I've currently finished the light edition, installed MTL, some additional mods like mapvote and etc, changed logo and reduced its size, corrected docs.
Closer to the topic. How do you think, which format of compression should i choose?
7z gives 120 MB size, but requires pretty good computer (not proven), plus no installer.
Zip gives 150 MB size, but with it we can make a friendly installer.
Or both, so user can select what to download ? Maybe this way is a bit stupid, installer isn't that important thing or... well what YOU think?

by **AlexDenton** » Thu Feb 24, 05 10:31 pm

judging by the speeds of most connections these days, i think it would probably be feesable to use teh ZIP version, and distribute it,
after all, its only 30Meg of a difference, which isnt that much to a broadband connection
anyone with a windows OS has the ability to unZIP files, and there isnt really a user left who cannot uncompress a ZIP

therefore, ZIP is the better option here

by **Dae** » Thu Feb 24, 05 10:40 pm

Both archive types are supported by all known op systems, and even if its Win 98 that has no default unpacker, the installer should load anyway.

by **Marouku** » Thu Feb 24, 05 10:56 pm

by **MrBlackDX** » Fri Feb 25, 05 12:45 am

whats .rar like in terms of compression?

anybody?

by **Marouku** » Fri Feb 25, 05 12:59 am

MrBlack wrote:whats .rar like in terms of compression?

anybody?

Rather good. If you have WinZIP or WinRAR

by **kBo** » Fri Feb 25, 05 12:59 am

Methinks it's good...

by **MrBlackDX** » Fri Feb 25, 05 1:04 am

i find WinRar pwns mostly so maybe you should consider that, tomorrow I could put up a link for download if you want?

by **Marouku** » Fri Feb 25, 05 1:14 am

MrBlack wrote:i find WinRar pwns mostly so maybe you should consider that, tomorrow I could put up a link for download if you want?

mmmyes....WinRAR OWNS

Link the non-believers.

by **clyzm** » Fri Feb 25, 05 1:44 am

which of course is me.

Now, suppose I wanted to know how the new image would look like?

by **AlexDenton** » Fri Feb 25, 05 2:27 pm

winRAR would be the best option

but it wasnt on the list, so i just voted ZIP

but you are right, winRAR

by **Bob** » Fri Feb 25, 05 5:24 pm

^

I love WinRAR

by **Bobo.** » Fri Feb 25, 05 7:25 pm

WinRAR owns

by **Trollied** » Fri Feb 25, 05 7:30 pm

what AlexDenton said

by **clyzm** » Fri Feb 25, 05 8:11 pm

WinRAR = doesn't exist

but from what I hear from you guys, it must be really cool ...

by **Alex** » Sat Feb 26, 05 9:24 am

Its not really something special :roll:

its just like WinZIP but it can compress better so the file gets smaller then a ZIP file(i think... :roll:

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by **Jeoh** » Sat Feb 26, 05 10:59 am

.RAR's are generally used for gigantic files. Makes them alot smaller than .zip. But with small files, there is next to no difference.

by **~D[A]rren~** » Sat Feb 26, 05 4:01 pm

My view is to put both up and give them the option.

JC

by **Dae** » Sat Feb 26, 05 4:06 pm

RAR is worse than 7z. In RAR size is 138. In Zip 150. In 7z 120.
And i'm going to put both types, i've decided, because we shouldn't forget that there are a lot of 56k'ers and, for example, most of people in my country never heard that there is something different to modem.
And if some 56k'er downloads the game and gets used to it, there is a huge chance that he'll think about getting something better, because there appeared one more reason to change connection. He gets better connection if possible, gets used more and more, realizes that he cannot live without a daily dose of Deus

by **Splitter** » Sat Feb 26, 05 4:31 pm

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:And if some 56k'er downloads the game and gets used to it, there is a huge chance that he'll think about getting something better, because there appeared one more reason to change connection. He gets better connection if possible, gets used more and more, realizes that he cannot live without a daily dose of Deus

Sounds like my life story

Yeh put both up if you have the bandwidth, otherwise just put the zip up, a 56k'er downloads stuff overnight really so think about the downloads in batches of 7 hours, an extra 30 meg won't really make too much difference. And if they've already commited to downloading something that big then I wouldn't worry about it

by **~D[A]rren~** » Sat Feb 26, 05 4:41 pm

~[A]Daedalus~ wrote:RAR is worse than 7z. In RAR size is 138. In Zip 150. In 7z 120.
And i'm going to put both types, i've decided, because we shouldn't forget that there are a lot of 56k'ers and, for example, most of people in my country never heard that there is something different to modem.
And if some 56k'er downloads the game and gets used to it, there is a huge chance that he'll think about getting something better, because there appeared one more reason to change connection. He gets better connection if possible, gets used more and more, realizes that he cannot live without a daily dose of Deus

Yesh, i agree.

Good idea Dae.

JC

by **AlexDenton** » Sat Feb 26, 05 7:44 pm

GeneralJeoh wrote:.RAR's are generally used for gigantic files.

130-150 meg is still ratehr large

and that 20 meg of a difference could save alot of time

by **Grayfox** » Tue Mar 01, 05 10:21 pm

Use 7zip its opensource enough said

by **Jeoh** » Tue Mar 01, 05 10:52 pm

ever try using sledgehammer for compression?

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