What the hell did you do?

[Ballistix]

Now back to DejaVu being pathetic.

And you said that Dej is avoiding <_<

[Alex]

Now back to DejaVu being pathetic.

And you said that Dej is avoiding <_<

Read my first post about DejaVu
"Dejavu, you're a pathetic guy"

[Moleh]

Now back to DejaVu being pathetic.

And you said that Dej is avoiding <_<

Read my first post about DejaVu
"Dejavu, you're a pathetic guy"

I'd just like to ask, what good have you actually done in this community? I mean to really improve things? Ive gotta admit, I dont even know who you are. While your calling Dej pathetic and all this, he's going around trying to keep servers up for this community (god knows why) and has been helping people learn augs and going out of his way to provide, while your flooding forums impersonating and crashing servers?

Dae has obviously lost alot of control or let this clan go alot since my days, cos when I was active there is no way he would have allowed all the shit that Alpha members seem to be doing these days and dragging the name down. You arent even a shadow of what this clan once was. It once had respect. Youve all put an end to that a long while ago.

[clyzm]

Dude.

He is a basic coder GOD.

That's more of what anyone can do rather than waste time fighting in DX.

Fighting's not gonna bring anything / rejuvinate DX. Making good mods and advertising will.

[James]

You shouldn't really single out the whole clan, thats just stupid.

[Reaction]

Fighting's not gonna bring anything / rejuvinate DX. Making good mods and advertising will.

I dissagre. A game is nothing without iits players. If everybody went away and made a lovely mod then there would be nobody playing it, so whats the pointof making that mod... there wouldnt be a point.

[clyzm]

Yes but I'm tired of seeing people that say "FIGHTING WILL BRING BACK DX, AUGS WILL BRING BACK DX!"

[[T]fRoSt]

dude, more people playing DXMP will help it more than any mod will

[Dejavu]

Now back to DejaVu being pathetic.

And you said that Dej is avoiding <_<

Read my first post about DejaVu
"Dejavu, you're a pathetic guy"

I'd just like to ask, what good have you actually done in this community? I mean to really improve things? Ive gotta admit, I dont even know who you are. While your calling Dej pathetic and all this, he's going around trying to keep servers up for this community (god knows why) and has been helping people learn augs and going out of his way to provide, while your flooding forums impersonating and crashing servers?

Dae has obviously lost alot of control or let this clan go alot since my days, cos when I was active there is no way he would have allowed all the shit that Alpha members seem to be doing these days and dragging the name down. You arent even a shadow of what this clan once was. It once had respect. Youve all put an end to that a long while ago.

.

Dude.

He is a basic coder GOD.

That's more of what anyone can do rather than waste time fighting in DX.

Fighting's not gonna bring anything / rejuvinate DX. Making good mods and advertising will.

making good mods will do shit. check any game, you will see that the most played mode is default mode. mods play only 5% of players (in other games).

from my own experienced, when i trained new players to dxmp, the biggest problem for them was that "nobody plays that game". they were sitting on half empty servers, most of the time and server didnt get filled at all.

if theres any mod needed, thats MTL then, to improve gameplay, add some special addons that help new players, reduce lag, ping, add anticheat mode, and such stuff.

[clyzm]

I don't see DX being filled with new players everytime someone plays augs, so basically playing augs will do shit.

We need to advertise augs and DX to far away communities.

[Moleh]

Dude.

He is a basic coder GOD.

By your standards, maybe. By mine, Ive seen him make nothing and do nothing good. To me, hes just another amateur coder learning something that most people could do if they put the time into it.

You shouldn't really single out the whole clan, thats just stupid.

Apologies. There are some decent individuals in [A]. Yourself, Amme, Bobo, Tom & Ant. But in general, even you cant believe this is the same clan. You used to have a high rep, Dae a well known community clan leader, [A] being an active clan, reputable people all interested in the clan like Mahou, Trollied, etc. Now what do you have? Kiddies running around public servers with cheats. [A] doesnt even deserve the tag 'We fight for Deus Ex' anymore because it has been abandoned. Lionheart gives an [A] member his cheats so that prevention methods can be made and instead you have half your clan using them themselves.

Im sorry to you J to be so blunt and harsh, but most people have pussy-footed around the situation for a long time now. Im just putting it straight how it is being as I dont care of the results.

[Siva]

Look - If a player buys DX because he has £5 left in his pocket after macdonalds, and comes home to see that there is MULTIPLAYER, he will join the servers, and oh look, everyones modding. Immediately he thinks, 'Screw this, no-ones here' , and goes back to CSS or whatever.

If everyone makes mods and advertises, no-one will be there to play the game, end-of.

If we're all playing, having a good time, not trying to start stupid little wars with each other, bitching about whatever, and god-knows who said what to who, this community will fall farther than it already has, NUFF SAID.

+The fact that, I haven't seen anyone gloriously come to DX because of all the various mods being made, I haven't seen anyone making an effort to branch out, So how does this make any sense at all?

[clyzm]

Like fighting will do anything That was a basic chance because he had some money left over, it's a slight and rare chance that it could happen. I don't focus on chance, instead on how to invite them indefinitely.

Everybody says "fighting will bring back dx", yeah sure, well I see lots of aug players fighting, but not one nooby who actually plays it anymore.

[Dejavu]

Like fighting will do anything That was a basic chance because he had some money left over, it's a slight and rare chance that it could happen. I don't focus on chance, instead on how to invite them indefinitely.

Everybody says "fighting will bring back dx", yeah sure, well I see lots of aug players fighting, but not one nooby who actually plays it anymore.

lately, i successfully made 3 ppl play augs actively and find it quite intresting + many more play at times

[Alex]

Dude.

He is a basic coder GOD.

By your standards, maybe. By mine, Ive seen him make nothing and do nothing good. To me, hes just another amateur coder learning something that most people could do if they put the time into it.

You shouldn't really single out the whole clan, thats just stupid.

Apologies. There are some decent individuals in [A]. Yourself, Amme, Bobo, Tom & Ant. But in general, even you cant believe this is the same clan. You used to have a high rep, Dae a well known community clan leader, [A] being an active clan, reputable people all interested in the clan like Mahou, Trollied, etc. Now what do you have? Kiddies running around public servers with cheats. [A] doesnt even deserve the tag 'We fight for Deus Ex' anymore because it has been abandoned. Lionheart gives an [A] member his cheats so that prevention methods can be made and instead you have half your clan using them themselves.

Im sorry to you J to be so blunt and harsh, but most people have pussy-footed around the situation for a long time now. Im just putting it straight how it is being as I dont care of the results.

Eh?
Right.
That is incorrect. We made them ourselves.
And if you're interested, I have been, and still are, working on anti-cheat mods. Something I don't tell, since I keep failing. I can manage doing it, but with comments like you guys, why should I? Let's see. If you would have the ability to cheat, you wouldn't? I am sure you say you wouldn't now, since you are thinking of your 'reputation'. Well, screw that. You can't imagine what it is to have it, to use it, or whatever. I have not been cheating a lot lately to actually win or w/e. Last thing I did: I spawned spy drones yesterday, when I had a 1 v 1 (Well, we weren't fighting) with a friend of mine. We were just fucking around. The day before that, I had a teamkiller on my team, killing everyone. I asked for premission to make him stop, and I said I would have to use cheats for that. I got premission, I activated god, and the teamkiller was busy for 5 minutes trying to chop my head off with a DTS.
And yes, we do fight for Deus Ex. I haven't seen anything from you that tries to save Deus Ex. You say your mod & maps package does? Well, no it doesn't. It has no function if noone plays Deus Ex.

Deus Ex Needs New Players
Currently if you come into a server, you get killed right away, by people like Trollied, Raiden, etcetera. Yes, also by [A].
And most people don't play Deus Ex since it's a FPS, and they want a good FPS, so they will play CSS, or some other FPS, since you have to admit, Deus Ex isn't the best graphical game. I am trying to give Deus Ex a new dimension with DX: RPG. Making Deus Ex a RPG, so also other players will be interested in playing Deus Ex. We need more mods, and mods that contain all needed files for Deus Ex! We need to make mods for players that don't have Deus Ex! We need to lure players to Deus Ex! At the moment Deus Ex is dying. Every game which exists longer then a year does, but Deus Ex is on the end of it. If you want to keep it alive, help saving it instead of whining!

[Ballistix]

Like fighting will do anything

Well i suggest you get rid of your slogan then, "Cheating and Fucking About To Kill Deus Ex" is more the slogan you need now.

[Moleh]

Eh?
Right.
That is incorrect. We made them ourselves.
And if you're interested, I have been, and still are, working on anti-cheat mods. Something I don't tell, since I keep failing. I can manage doing it, but with comments like you guys, why should I? Let's see. If you would have the ability to cheat, you wouldn't? I am sure you say you wouldn't now, since you are thinking of your 'reputation'. Well, screw that. You can't imagine what it is to have it, to use it, or whatever. I have not been cheating a lot lately to actually win or w/e. Last thing I did: I spawned spy drones yesterday, when I had a 1 v 1 (Well, we weren't fighting) with a friend of mine. We were just fucking around. The day before that, I had a teamkiller on my team, killing everyone. I asked for premission to make him stop, and I said I would have to use cheats for that. I got premission, I activated god, and the teamkiller was busy for 5 minutes trying to chop my head off with a DTS.
And yes, we do fight for Deus Ex. I haven't seen anything from you that tries to save Deus Ex. You say your mod & maps package does? Well, no it doesn't. It has no function if noone plays Deus Ex.

Deus Ex Needs New Players
Currently if you come into a server, you get killed right away, by people like Trollied, Raiden, etcetera. Yes, also by [A].
And most people don't play Deus Ex since it's a FPS, and they want a good FPS, so they will play CSS, or some other FPS, since you have to admit, Deus Ex isn't the best graphical game. I am trying to give Deus Ex a new dimension with DX: RPG. Making Deus Ex a RPG, so also other players will be interested in playing Deus Ex. We need more mods, and mods that contain all needed files for Deus Ex! We need to make mods for players that don't have Deus Ex! We need to lure players to Deus Ex! At the moment Deus Ex is dying. Every game which exists longer then a year does, but Deus Ex is on the end of it. If you want to keep it alive, help saving it instead of whining!

Yes I have had cheats. I had funbot before most of you even knew about it, and yet, didnt use it in a public server and not only dcsb will back me up to this, but most people that used to be around when I was really into things and knew me would back me up that Im not the type of person to be that lame. I will admit to using it, only I did it in a private server when DCSB members were fucking about. Hell, it was even Systems practice at one time for him to go one on one vs the bot. So yes, I can say that I had the ability to cheat but didnt. Proven by the fact that it was me that made the mistake of giving Labtec the bot, though Im not sure if you were even around at that time? As for my reputation....as if I have any kind of rep in dxmp anymore apart from with those that have been in the community for a long time. I am probably a nobody to most people that post here so its not as if I have an image to uphold. even if I did, do you think I would care?

'I havent seen you do anything to help this community' 'you wouldnt know what its like to have the ability'. -Way to prove how little time and involvement you have had in this community compared to what I used to have, cos most of the vets of this community knew that I used to have a thumb in every pie so to speak and was involved in alot of stuff in the background, even if I wasnt one of the best of the best players.

As for in a 1v1. Who hasnt fucked about with admin and done similar things? Thats not what im on about. Everyone jumped on Lionheart and Funbot and such for using aimbots and cheats and had a go at them, yet you have done the same and people these days seem to kiss enough [A] ass to let you by and go on doing it?! You want to go doing the shit you do your a nothing in my eyes. The amount of bad and crap you have done way overshadows your failed attempts at an anti-cheat in my eyes. If you hadnt done all that, I would be applauding you for making the effort regardless of the outcome and regardless of the fact its DXMP. People who make efforts at anti-cheat in any game deserve respect, cheats are the ones that are pathetic. You sir, are pathetic.

And btw, that mods and maps thing wasnt by me. I may have tested it, but it wasnt my idea nor was it my work

Your right, I did stop playing to play a decent FPS. Its a shame that DXMP has been ruined throughout its history by people like yourself that just make things worse, otherwise it would probably be bigger still.

[MrBlackDX]

check any game, you will see that the most played mode is default mode

CS from HL1?

CSS from HL2?

GG?

[Moleh]

CSS is more the default MP from HL2 being as it was just a HL1 modder asked to make HL2DM.

[MrBlackDX]

CSS is more the default MP from HL2 being as it was just a HL1 modder asked to make HL2DM.

Dont get technical mate

But fair enough, still, CS is a modification of HL, and its probably the biggest played game (except maybe CSS).

And duder, I did try to have a banter with the peeps about this whole issue, but then yeah, I gave up ¬_¬

[Alex]

Eh?
Right.
That is incorrect. We made them ourselves.
And if you're interested, I have been, and still are, working on anti-cheat mods. Something I don't tell, since I keep failing. I can manage doing it, but with comments like you guys, why should I? Let's see. If you would have the ability to cheat, you wouldn't? I am sure you say you wouldn't now, since you are thinking of your 'reputation'. Well, screw that. You can't imagine what it is to have it, to use it, or whatever. I have not been cheating a lot lately to actually win or w/e. Last thing I did: I spawned spy drones yesterday, when I had a 1 v 1 (Well, we weren't fighting) with a friend of mine. We were just fucking around. The day before that, I had a teamkiller on my team, killing everyone. I asked for premission to make him stop, and I said I would have to use cheats for that. I got premission, I activated god, and the teamkiller was busy for 5 minutes trying to chop my head off with a DTS.
And yes, we do fight for Deus Ex. I haven't seen anything from you that tries to save Deus Ex. You say your mod & maps package does? Well, no it doesn't. It has no function if noone plays Deus Ex.

Deus Ex Needs New Players
Currently if you come into a server, you get killed right away, by people like Trollied, Raiden, etcetera. Yes, also by [A].
And most people don't play Deus Ex since it's a FPS, and they want a good FPS, so they will play CSS, or some other FPS, since you have to admit, Deus Ex isn't the best graphical game. I am trying to give Deus Ex a new dimension with DX: RPG. Making Deus Ex a RPG, so also other players will be interested in playing Deus Ex. We need more mods, and mods that contain all needed files for Deus Ex! We need to make mods for players that don't have Deus Ex! We need to lure players to Deus Ex! At the moment Deus Ex is dying. Every game which exists longer then a year does, but Deus Ex is on the end of it. If you want to keep it alive, help saving it instead of whining!

Yes I have had cheats. I had funbot before most of you even knew about it, and yet, didnt use it in a public server and not only dcsb will back me up to this, but most people that used to be around when I was really into things and knew me would back me up that Im not the type of person to be that lame. I will admit to using it, only I did it in a private server when DCSB members were fucking about. Hell, it was even Systems practice at one time for him to go one on one vs the bot. So yes, I can say that I had the ability to cheat but didnt. Proven by the fact that it was me that made the mistake of giving Labtec the bot, though Im not sure if you were even around at that time? As for my reputation....as if I have any kind of rep in dxmp anymore apart from with those that have been in the community for a long time. I am probably a nobody to most people that post here so its not as if I have an image to uphold. even if I did, do you think I would care?

'I havent seen you do anything to help this community' 'you wouldnt know what its like to have the ability'. -Way to prove how little time and involvement you have had in this community compared to what I used to have, cos most of the vets of this community knew that I used to have a thumb in every pie so to speak and was involved in alot of stuff in the background, even if I wasnt one of the best of the best players.

As for in a 1v1. Who hasnt fucked about with admin and done similar things? Thats not what im on about. Everyone jumped on Lionheart and Funbot and such for using aimbots and cheats and had a go at them, yet you have done the same and people these days seem to kiss enough [A] ass to let you by and go on doing it?! You want to go doing the shit you do your a nothing in my eyes. The amount of bad and crap you have done way overshadows your failed attempts at an anti-cheat in my eyes. If you hadnt done all that, I would be applauding you for making the effort regardless of the outcome and regardless of the fact its DXMP. People who make efforts at anti-cheat in any game deserve respect, cheats are the ones that are pathetic. You sir, are pathetic.

And btw, that mods and maps thing wasnt by me. I may have tested it, but it wasnt my idea nor was it my work

Your right, I did stop playing to play a decent FPS. Its a shame that DXMP has been ruined throughout its history by people like yourself that just make things worse, otherwise it would probably be bigger still.

I hate it when I change names - Moop - Moleh. Well.
The aimbot is crap, I have it, I hate it. I never use it. You never had the ability to speak with others name, use augs, use god, unlimited energy, grenade bug, weapon hax, and much more.
Still, I haven't seen you doing anything to save Deus Ex. If you say you did, show some examples.

[Professor Layton]

I can remember a GM server <_<

[Splitter]

Hmmm getting very tired of this.
I can't actually remember reading anything at any point that specifically said "I've done lots to save Deus Ex" from Matt, so I really don't know why you are pushing it. But if you really want to know, you don't exactly have to go looking for the information. Just try looking back over the last few months at the two Gamesmajor server that have at some point or another been up. Try imagining how long ago DX would have died if DCSB had have pulled out much earlier than they did.
How about the fact that rather than spending his time pissing people off by crashing servers and using aimbots and the like in public servers, he actually ran a clan which was respected by most and caused little to no trouble when compared with the huge dive in confidence that most people have had in the entire community since this multihack came out. I can't actually believe you can compare the RPG project which still hasn't produced any real results with the achievements that Matt has made during his time, if you think you even compare to them then you are obviously deluded
And please don't try to justify it to yourself and everyone else by droning on about how you're "Just doing it for the community" and "To make DX more secure." I'm sure if this was the intention then some private testing would have been all that was needed. Not a full blown, god-mode powered assault on the values that most of the players that currently play have.
Thanks to you, many players have found a nice easy way out of being admitting that someone is better than them, they must be hacking.
New players get one whiff of this and either leave the game completely, or go on to become idiots who do nothing but spam "aimbot" when someone happens to kill them. Older players like Pappa clearly believe that the multihack is out and that all of [A] have it.
Geez, thanks to you he even accused me of hacking and with his suspiscions about Clix etc. you're just giving him more ammunition in his tarring campaign that has most of his cronies believing that we are all hackers o_0

Thanks a lot Alex, really boosted the community : )

[Moleh]

Yes the aimbot is crap, your right there. But at the time, there was no protection from it or anything. And I have had all those abilities in other games. Theres a dystopia server where the admin had a stupid script on that temporarily enabled cheats and you could summon/do pretty much anything in that time but nobody realised. Did I take advantage of it? No, I stopped playing there. In our CSS server the mani admin enables you to do pretty much anything, talk as others, rebind other people keys and modify their configs and settings freely (stupid I know), yet even though I was told the codes I only did it once on a sat night when my mate and I were drunk, and that was to 2 people: a dcsb member and his school friend(to both which I owned up and admitted it and had a laugh about it after they realised). Ive had the ability to do stuff in CSS that would go un-noticed like give myself full cash but didnt. In XMP when I was helping run multiple servers I had the ability to give myself more energy and use god and such and didnt.

I have alot more gaming experience across more games than you have, so dont presume I have never had the ability to do alot of things. I know what it is to cheat and be dishonest in public servers: wrong, uncalled for and un-needed.

As for what have I done in DXMP? Well considering you werent even a noob when I went off playing:

• I was involved with DeusEx-Online before most even knew about it, and proceeded to carry on running it even when DT left. DXO hosted alot of top clans websites including CG, Triad, BTJ, it also hosts a guide site Messiah made and hosted the partizan website when dejavu used to run a server way back, as well as dejavu's SLO clan website when he was introducing new people to DXMP and training them.
• I helped alot of clans get a stable base and gave them advice. I also made and offered to make websites for clans like TN and NSF (2 off the top of my head) when I first started messing with sites.
• When I first started messing web design I made a website providing a source for map and mod downloads, along with help on setting up servers, augs, admin commands, etc. But that was before TCN even made their maps database.
• I used to have DCSB involved in regular clan matches that helped keep clans active (I'd go as far as saying that from our regular clan games where TCN used to hand us our asses before they even merged with DK, to the later dates when we got GM involved in DXMP and arranged matches with A, TT, DXM, Void, and others. We probably had more clan scrims than any other clan in DXMP).
• I got GamesMajor involved and hosting DXMP, who have provided the best euro based servers for how long now? Providing you all with some decent places to play.
  I also ran the ICX.Net server (I imagine only the old school players will remember it) which was pretty damn popular.
• I used to admin alot of servers and tried to maintain fair and fun playing for people without all the shit, and resolved conflicts.
• I helped test alot of projects, including working with TRM on MTL2 when he revived the project before nobody was even involved. I helped test Moops installer, as well as helping test Dae's DXMP Slimline, & DT's name checker.
• I was in the background helping Da-Terminator with alot of his other projects, and again, any old school player knows he did alot for the community.
• I introduced quite a few players to DXMP. Half the origional DCSB got into it after I showed them it. And on the same note, I ran what I would consider a successful clan in DXMP that out-lasted alot of others.

Im sure thinking a bit more and looking through some old stuff would jog my memory to more things I was involved in, but Im not gonna bother as Ive already stated more than you have done to support the community.

Edit: Splitters right (he posted while I was typing). This is probably the only time Ive tried to make a list of things Ive done in DXMP in general. Its not a competition or an effort to improve e-penis, however you questioned so I answered. The matter still states that you Alex, are indeed pathetic. Sorry to everyone else that Im putting this so bluntly, Im just saying what is on alot of people lips and thoughts but hasnt been said yet.

Edit2: Made it into a list to make the post a bit more manageable

[MrBlackDX]

Considering that RPG is a derivative of Funline UP, and Funline was considered by Alpha for retired players, it begs the question?

Is RPG actually gonna make much difference, bar just a little fun on the side?

[Ste]

mostly funline sucks crackhole

its the demise of dxmp!

[Alex]

Hmmm getting very tired [...] community : )

If you're interested, we did test it on private servers first, and on empty servers. And as I said before, and something you can not know, you want to show others. And if I can recall, I never, and I mean never, used it for actual fighting.
I crashed the godzserver on april 1st.
I use god mode to keep teamkillers busy
I do a fake adminlogin to scare teamkillers
I did a fake adminlogin on godzserver on april the 1st
I cheat on RPG servers, since only DoubleD's RPG is on. If MainMan's RPG is on, I wont cheat on it. I do this because I boycot DoubleD's RPG.
I do not aimbot, since it's crap, and I don't need it anyways.

Yes the [...] more manageable

Yes, that is something you did for Deus Ex, but you also know I am doing things for Deus Ex, so don't deny that.
And no, I didn't actually played/see ICX.Net. I heared about it, yes. I have only been around Deus Ex for 2 years and 4 months or some. The registration date on these forums are almost equal of the date I started playing Deus Ex MP.

[xProtocol Rain]

mostly funline sucks crackhole

its the demise of dxmp!

i agree..but personaly i dont really like those maps that need to be downloaded.

were is Dae anyways?

[Alex]

mostly funline sucks crackhole

its the demise of dxmp!

i agree..but personaly i dont really like those maps that need to be downloaded.

were is Dae anyways?

Studying. School.

[Krieg]

fighting for his future , the same i actually should do but i might fail lmao