The Petition against this server crashing

[clyzm]

1.) Oh so what, you're the best.
2.) What exactly have you to prove, btw?

1.) Not saying I am the best, I said I was.
2.) I have nothing to prove. I simply said that having 220 ping or lower gives you a good possibility to fight guys lower pings. And on today's DXMP for example Ste's server gives some Americans pings as low as 140. Therefore lag can not be used as an excuse. Certainly a guy like Hybrid would play with a disadvantage compared to for example me but hey, life is never 100% fair and it would be impossible to arrange a server that gives stable 50 ping to everyone all around the world.

If you would take your head out of your ass for a while you could understand what I am talking about. No, it does not have anything to do with mods. No, it does not have anything to do with no-aug Vs. aug war. No, it does not have anything to do with DejaVu nor messiah personally. It is just the way things are.

If you can focus more about what you're saying rather than a way to insult me, I might take what bullshit your spewing into consideration. But I don't.

[~Hy[ß]rid~]

If you don't have low ping your fucked. Good on you guys.

Wrong. I can claim I used to be the best player even on the American servers with my 220 ping against guys with 50. If you can not do it, you can only blame yourself for not practising enough.

Try 380-450. But I still manage to get respectable scores on most maps apart from Smuggler. It's just alot more tacticle for me, I can't use rifles and have to approach it alot differently to most of you.

[Mr. Tastix]

If you don't have low ping your fucked. Good on you guys.

Wrong. I can claim I used to be the best player even on the American servers with my 220 ping against guys with 50. If you can not do it, you can only blame yourself for not practising enough.

Try 380-450. But I still manage to get respectable scores on most maps apart from Smuggler. It's just alot more tacticle for me, I can't use rifles and have to approach it alot differently to most of you.

Lol, we really have no choice mate. Considering most of the bloody servers are on the other side of the fuck world. Too bad though, a low Ping like 200 would be pretty cool to see here - I've seen it a few times, but never experienced it myself. Fluctuates too damn much.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

SIGNED: for the following reasons...

1. The average number of players online has at least halved since his attack.
A fact that even Deja can not ignore or dispute. A fact I believe that counters all other arguments, they just pale into insignificance when you realize that now instead of at least 30-40 online, you are lucky to see 20.

2. He did this for selfish reasons, he wants people to ONLY play his preferred gametype. He has forced people to play only one game type, not to be good at all gametypes.

3. I enjoy ATDM, more than Beginner Augs, but it still doesnt convince me that there is more skill. I played SP for five years before going online. Augs in SP makes the game too easy. Hippy non-lethal style and 0-augs is the only way to get a hard game in SP. I don't enjoy being killed by cloakers and people jumping 200 feet into the air. However I do enjoy the RPG element of ATDM skills etc, but still IMO DXAG is better RPG online. I feel as well, battles in DX are now totally unbalanced...

4. Deja is trying to take us back to the past. DXSG and DXAG and other gametypes have since been invented. Every computer game evolves and Deja should realize that. If DX doesn't die, even new mappers and modders such myself will produce new variants of DX. The best of DX is yet to come...

5. The makers of the game fully intended people to download SDK and make new versions of the game. This is precisely what DXMS have done and GODZ have done and DXAG and DXSG have done. Deja is basically abusing these people's hard work and removing their right to publicly show their work. AND going against the game-maker's wishes...

6. His delusional claims of saving the DX community make me sick. Read point 1.

7. He referred to NC's family in a message, shortly before he crashed his server. That is the lowest.

8. He is a coward, he uses other people to convey messages.

THIS IS TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ENCOURAGED, SUPPORTED AND AIDED DEJA...Even those on Anti-Godz who just discussed server details with him...

You share the responsibility of halving the number of players online. Amen

[synthetic]

If you don't have low ping your fucked. Good on you guys.

Wrong. I can claim I used to be the best player even on the American servers with my 220 ping against guys with 50. If you can not do it, you can only blame yourself for not practising enough.

Try 380-450. But I still manage to get respectable scores on most maps apart from Smuggler. It's just alot more tacticle for me, I can't use rifles and have to approach it alot differently to most of you.

80% shells 20% knives :lol:

i sort of liked the way you kept killing me with your damn shells even if i had ads on.. the works. nice : )

shadowrunner, imagine airfights, sniper fights 200 ft in the air : ), or just sniping someone in the head while he is above some map.

[ynnaD]

Deja Vu is the living human example of a turd

[~Hy[ß]rid~]

If you don't have low ping your fucked. Good on you guys.

Wrong. I can claim I used to be the best player even on the American servers with my 220 ping against guys with 50. If you can not do it, you can only blame yourself for not practising enough.

Try 380-450. But I still manage to get respectable scores on most maps apart from Smuggler. It's just alot more tacticle for me, I can't use rifles and have to approach it alot differently to most of you.

80% shells 20% knives

i sort of liked the way you kept killing me with your damn shells even if i had ads on.. the works. nice : )

Must of been playing lazy. Lately its been uh like 5% Plasma, 15% Knives, 20% lams, 30% Shells and 25% Gep.

To be exact

[Eçheløn]

If you don't have low ping your fucked. Good on you guys.

Wrong. I can claim I used to be the best player even on the American servers with my 220 ping against guys with 50. If you can not do it, you can only blame yourself for not practising enough.

Try 380-450. But I still manage to get respectable scores on most maps apart from Smuggler. It's just alot more tacticle for me, I can't use rifles and have to approach it alot differently to most of you.

80% shells 20% knives

i sort of liked the way you kept killing me with your damn shells even if i had ads on.. the works. nice : )

Must of been playing lazy. Lately its been uh like 5% Plasma, 15% Knives, 20% lams, 30% Shells and 25% Gep.

To be exact

i get 350-400 ping in Euro servers and i dont stand a chance against the other players especially in augs.

but in US servers i get 250 - 280 ping and i can really own sometimes

[messiah]

5.) If that would be the case, DXMP could not evolve anymore. We would have reached to the point of making a game truly perfect. Instead of talk negatively about it you should rather hope for it to happen. Maybe I should get to DejaVu's side and start planning this kind of gamestyle.

I find it odd that so many people on your side of the tracks keep saying this, yet at the same time most of you support Deja Vu in what he's doing. If 0 augs is not the way DX was meant to be played, is it not an evolution of the game?

It's come down to the personal tastes of a fascist, it has nothing to do with what's right or wrong with DX.

First of all, my 5.) statement was meant to be more like a joke, nothing else.

Second, you have to be a realist here. Example: you are now classified to be a homo sapiens sapiens and not a neanderthal man. If you have studied any history you should know the reason for that. But I will tell it to you anyway: back in the day these two faced problems and only the more evolved "creature / human" survived due to the other one not being enough intelligent and "skilled". That is why homo sapiens sapiens survived. Now what does this have to do with DXMP? In Deus Ex augmented games are simply a stronger and more advanced than no-aug games. So in the end no-augs would die of extinction. This might not never happen of course because we are talking about a game here.

Now I have stated several times that I do not support DejaVu's action but I neither can do anything about it. He has never done anything against the augmented community and therefore I see no reason to ban him from the forums (like it would make any difference, anyway). At least you have a media to discuss with him there as he seems to be banned pretty much in all other DX forums.

About ping thing, 350+ is useless and then it is understandable if you can not get victorious games all the time.

[Cereal]

5.) If that would be the case, DXMP could not evolve anymore. We would have reached to the point of making a game truly perfect. Instead of talk negatively about it you should rather hope for it to happen. Maybe I should get to DejaVu's side and start planning this kind of gamestyle.

I find it odd that so many people on your side of the tracks keep saying this, yet at the same time most of you support Deja Vu in what he's doing. If 0 augs is not the way DX was meant to be played, is it not an evolution of the game?

It's come down to the personal tastes of a fascist, it has nothing to do with what's right or wrong with DX.

First of all, my 5.) statement was meant to be more like a joke, nothing else.

Second, you have to be a realist here. Example: you are now classified to be a homo sapiens sapiens and not a neanderthal man. If you have studied any history you should know the reason for that. But I will tell it to you anyway: back in the day these two faced problems and only the more evolved "creature / human" survived due to the other one not being enough intelligent and "skilled". That is why homo sapiens sapiens survived. Now what does this have to do with DXMP? In Deus Ex augmented games are simply a stronger and more advanced than no-aug games. So in the end no-augs would die of extinction. This might not never happen of course because we are talking about a game here.

Now I have stated several times that I do not support DejaVu's action but I neither can do anything about it. He has never done anything against the augmented community and therefore I see no reason to ban him from the forums (like it would make any difference, anyway). At least you have a media to discuss with him there as he seems to be banned pretty much in all other DX forums.

About ping thing, 350+ is useless and then it is understandable if you can not get victorious games all the time.

If you want to get smart with me, homo sapiens sapiens didn't evolve from neanderthal man, they both evolved from homo erectus. What does this have to do with Deus Ex? Nothing, the latter is a FUCKING GAME.

[~Hy[ß]rid~]

About ping thing, 350+ is useless and then it is understandable if you can not get victorious games all the time.

Hehe yeah, it is. But I manage, just fucking Smuggler is a whore of a map for a lagger like me.

Messiah isn't the source of the problem, he just doesn't attend to it, I'm not not either. Why pick on him? Why not pick on me? or half this forum, theres alot of people with the same 'not give a fuck' stance.

[Cereal]

Pick on him? You make it sound as though I'm a bully and he's some defenseless kid. Messiah is well spoken, he can defend himself from my brutality.

[Mr. Tastix]

Here's an idea: How about you all just shut the fuck up, let differences be differences, let people have their own opinions and stop worrying about what the fuck others think.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

shadowrunner, imagine airfights, sniper fights 200 ft in the air : ), or just sniping someone in the head while he is above some map.

I know you run a server but I can't put your player name to the forum face...

Yeah just like FGS low grav but a bit faster? I have seen some "impossible" looking snipers yeah for sure on ATDM this week.

LOL at the fact that augs are getting banned already and ppl whining at noobs for using 20mm or LAW to get a kill... I got called "cheap" for cloaking. But if the enemy are too stupid to advance towards the hangar solo across the Area51 and not look behind even once, then they are the noob IMO. Actually I'm getting most of my kills with throw knives, dts and Combat Strength or turrets, sometimes a well-timed LAW, but then I saw a guy from [T] do that 3 times in one game on noobs...

I noticed that [A]Hybrid says we have to compromise and can't go being assholes to Deja...

GRRR!!! to all the people like that, helping Deja get away with being asshole to others, he's not above the law himself, being an augger is not IRL you know, you are still mortal like the rest and have to co-exist:

1. Fucking Servers
2. Denying people the right to use the SDK and host their work
3. Ending DXAG
4. Ending DXSG?
5. Ending anyone's right not to be bored with stock maps...
6. WORST OF ALL - forcing me to have to go the same server as the assholes who supported Deja to remove my maps and other peoples maps etc...for the sake of what? so we can now ban augs as well...

NOW IF GODZ NO-CHANC CAME ALONG AND CRASHED AND BOT-ATTACKED EVERY AUG SERVER THAT BANNED AN AUG AND MODIFIED THE GAME?

WELL THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST THOSE ASSHOLES DESERVED...

[Cereal]

Here's an idea: How about you all just shut the fuck up, let differences be differences, let people have their own opinions and stop worrying about what the fuck others think.

Which would be well and good if there was any god damn choice left.

[Mr. Tastix]

Rofl, yes well no one is getting choices now are we? And no, augs isn't real life as you said, ShadowRunner. So I'd LOVE to watch DeJaVu jump off a building thinking he's got the fucking Speed Augmentation on... I'd die of laughter.

[MrBlackDX]

Rofl, yes well no one is getting choices now are we? And no, augs isn't real life as you said, ShadowRunner. So I'd LOVE to watch DeJaVu jump off a building thinking he's got the fucking Speed Augmentation on... I'd die of laughter.

Well he would use the Spy Drone bug but thats been banned

[synthetic]

dx is future...

[~[T]GrimRaPeR~]

It's kinda sad to watch as people complain yet nothing can be done by them

[synthetic]

It's kinda sad to watch as people complain yet nothing can be done by them :(

i believe you meant
It's kinda sad to watch as people complain yet nothing can be done for them :(

[Ste]

No grim is correct, they moan but theyre in no power to end the hacks.

[Krieg]

That's why the right attitude at this moment is to don't give a fuck about it lol , like me , lawlz

[MrBlackDX]

That's why the right attitude at this moment is to don't give a fuck about it lol , like me , lawlz

Oh i love the logic!

Letting him get away with it, will infact make him stop, yeah why didn't i think of that before!

[Krieg]

That's why the right attitude at this moment is to don't give a fuck about it lol , like me , lawlz

Oh i love the logic!

Letting him get away with it, will infact make him stop, yeah why didn't i think of that before!

But... but ... do I even care about weather he gets away with it or not ... hmmm .... and do I care if he will stop or not .... hmmm ... I don't really got a server and I like both game styles , but it doesn't matter for me which of the two I play ... hmmm ... good question ... I will think about it !

[Spiderbot01]

No grim is correct, they moan but theyre in no power to end the hacks.

Why the hell wouldn't we moan?

[ynnaD]

There is a whole community of Deus Ex versus Deja Vu and his "little" band of supproters.

I have no doubt that someone out there wether it be from here, NPF, V or other players will solve the problem somehow no matter how long it takes.

Then Deja Vu will have no ground to stand on

[clyzm]

That's why the right attitude at this moment is to don't give a fuck about it lol , like me , lawlz

Oh i love the logic!

Letting him get away with it, will infact make him stop, yeah why didn't i think of that before!

But... but ... do I even care about weather he gets away with it or not ... hmmm .... and do I care if he will stop or not .... hmmm ... I don't really got a server and I like both game styles , but it doesn't matter for me which of the two I play ... hmmm ... good question ... I will think about it !

Trying to support someone instead of lying around bitching is better.

[Eçheløn]

There is a whole community of Deus Ex versus Deja Vu and his "little" band of supproters.

I have no doubt that someone out there wether it be from here, NPF, V or other players will solve the problem somehow no matter how long it takes.

Then Deja Vu will have no ground to stand on

his supporters wont either.

[~[T]GrimRaPeR~]

No grim is correct, they moan but theyre in no power to end the hacks.

Why the hell wouldn't we moan?

Exactly what I meant.All we can do is moan.

[rob]

any more news on gamespy or 'warren spector' or anything of them dudes?
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