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by **Bear** » Mon Dec 17, 07 2:26 pm

I made the packages in archives, and yet look at this:

Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:21: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloa ... _RPGv2.zip dxmp_rpg_v2t4:GPbykgeWJUEpEWwWoQkk9b/Vbv35f/d+bqVsUsgY6Ao=
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:21: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Music.zip RPG_V2_Music2:FaNngx165gM1pTQZZmJPRwzBCJoi1O2QndahI7jY/qw=
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:21: Web download is currently supported
>npt web support http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:32: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloa ... _RPGv2.zip dxmp_rpg_v2t4:GPbykgeWJUEpEWwWoQkk9b/Vbv35f/d+bqVsUsgY6Ao=
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:32: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Music.zip RPG_V2_Music2:FaNngx165gM1pTQZZmJPRwzBCJoi1O2QndahI7jY/qw=
Log: Resolving heyhotmail.quotaless.com...
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:32: Processing 'http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip'
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:33: Downloading '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\Mods.zip' from 'http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip' (295983 Bytes)
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:35: Downloaded '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\Mods.zip' from 'http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip' (295983 Bytes) at 108.61 KB/s
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:35: Added 2 archived packages of '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\Mods.zip' for 'http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip'
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:36: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloa ... _RPGv2.zip dxmp_rpg_v2t4:GPbykgeWJUEpEWwWoQkk9b/Vbv35f/d+bqVsUsgY6Ao=
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:36: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Mods.zip RPG_V2:4LiNzhzMCJXaDE8s3+0Y7FQfYFgFrhd29PgZqmEVYUM=
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 13:24:36: Needed: http://heyhotmail.quotaless.com/Downloads/Music.zip RPG_V2_Music2:FaNngx165gM1pTQZZmJPRwzBCJoi1O2QndahI7jY/qw=
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The downloads work fine, when I download them.

by **Imperial** » Mon Dec 17, 07 3:33 pm

try use another site like www.box.net

by **Cozmo** » Mon Dec 17, 07 4:26 pm

I'm not certain, but maybe because they're .zip format and not .u, .dx, etc.

by **Imperial** » Mon Dec 17, 07 4:28 pm

Actually ye, he's right. Upload them without zipping them.

by **Bear** » Mon Dec 17, 07 4:30 pm

That does not work, I uploaded two files and it still says this:

>npt web support http://www.box.net/shared/poxbq20he4
Log: Resolving www.box.net...
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:25: Processing 'http://www.box.net/shared/poxbq20he4'
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:26: Downloading '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' from 'http://www.box.net/shared/poxbq20he4' (0 Bytes)
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:26: Downloaded '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' from 'http://www.box.net/shared/poxbq20he4' (7102 Bytes) at 7.71 KB/s
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:26: Extractor '7-Zip' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:26: Extractor 'zunace' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:26: Extractor 'zxumod' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:27: Extractor 'PACL' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:27: Extractor 'unzip' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 15:26:27: Extractor 'unrar' for '..\NephthysDownloadedArchives\poxbq20he4.unknown' failed to list anything
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by **Cozmo** » Mon Dec 17, 07 4:32 pm

That doesn't have a file extension at all. :shock:

by **Kaiden** » Mon Dec 17, 07 4:52 pm

Firstly read my guide.

Secondly, do you have 7-Zip installed? Re-install Nephthys if you don't, it will prompt you for it when you install.

Your ZIP Folder must not have a password.

If you use a different upload server from my suggested one, you must make sure when you click the link to download the mod it doesn't respond with stuff like "Please copy this conformation code to start your download", "Please wait 10 seconds for your download to begin" E.C.T.. It must start immediately once you click the link without any user interference.

You may require 7-Zip for this to function correctly. When installing Nephthys, you are promoted to install 7-Zip but you may have skipped past it. You may download 7-Zip here.

You may recieve an error like "Failing to create the target file". Problem is, that the folder which Nephthys downloads the archives to.

Put a Deus Ex Related file in a .zip folder. Upload it in a attachment in your next post, right click it, get its URL, and type npt web support command, followed by the url.

www.box.net does NOT work with Web Support.

by **Zora** » Mon Dec 17, 07 5:01 pm

Your first post in this topic shows how it should work. And it did. So where's your problem? What exactly is it that isn't working? All looks fine, as intended and as expected. There's no errors.

Zora

by **Bear** » Mon Dec 17, 07 5:30 pm

Well, what it did is not download from that link, insted it just uploaded, I dont understand why, I did upload RPGCity and yet in the console someone was uploading it.

Ok, I couldnt upload in .7z format or .tar so I used 7-Zip to do just a normal .Zip file, as my Free Web Hoster does not allow those types of files. (http://www.quotaless.com)

Ok, well this is some of the server log when people join:

Nephthys: 2007/12/17 18:41:20: Pre 2IP: KeviBear KeviBear
DevNet: NotifyAcceptingChannel File 1 server Level Lees_HongKongInfiniteParty-3.MyLevel: Accepted
DevNet: Client requested file: Allowed
DevNet: Sending '..\Maps\Lees_HongKongInfiniteParty-3.dx'
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 18:41:21: Down 206.74.171.204:50491 'KeviBear': '..\Maps\Lees_HongKongInfiniteParty-3.dx' (6825363 Bytes, 6.5 MBytes)
Nephthys: 2007/12/17 18:41:26: Closing connection IP of player 'KeviBear', uploaded 216611 Bytes (3.17 %) at 41.58 KB/s
NetComeGo: Close NephthysConnection0 12/17/07 18:41:26

by **Kaiden** » Mon Dec 17, 07 8:28 pm

Interested to know where you got that map exactly.

The player must have Nephthys installed on their DX.

by **Bear** » Mon Dec 17, 07 9:23 pm

What so, for people to do Nephtys web download off my server they have to have Nephtys installed?
If thats so, that is very anoying.

by **Kaiden** » Mon Dec 17, 07 9:37 pm

Yes, but like 50% of Deus Ex players do lol.

by **Bear** » Mon Dec 17, 07 9:49 pm

Ah, well that is anoying, if I was to put a small file npt file in ServerPackages that allowed the npt Web Download for them, would it work?

by **Dex** » Mon Dec 17, 07 11:09 pm

he got that map from me

by **Zora** » Tue Dec 18, 07 8:08 am

Nephthys is not built to foist native files on players who unsuspectingly join (I don't think you'd like to download a native virus from an evil admin). It's intentionally restricted to only share the exact Unreal package files the server is running. You can't do archive unpacking in uscript, that's duty of native code. So no automatic "players get web download feature".

If you want to learn more about Nephthys, I suggest RTFM.

You'll find it by default (depending on your installation path) in "C:\DeusEx\Help\Nephthys Documentation.html".

Zora

by **Bear** » Tue Dec 18, 07 9:56 am

by **Kaiden** » Tue Dec 18, 07 11:06 am

[B2S]deXtrUktOR, lol thanks. The point in a few people hosting it as that it stays unique, rather than Funline which is hosted by everyone with 2 people on each server instead of 8 people on one. :wink:

Hey, yeah I was gonna explain that but I thought I better let the master do it.

Would be kind of harsh if you could upload some random trojan, tell the map it needs it then they download it via web support. =( (Impossible indeed)

by **Bear** » Tue Dec 18, 07 11:38 am

Hmm, those files called "zshell.exe" and the other two, are those for the web download? If so, couldnt you put it above all the other files in ServerPackages and ServerActors, and then once they finish uploading that single file, they can Web Download?

by **Kaiden** » Tue Dec 18, 07 1:19 pm

ServerPackages is something that is required on the server, and must be like .ini/.u, etc. .exe can't be executed on the game. Yeah they are web support related though.

by **Bear** » Tue Dec 18, 07 1:32 pm

Hmm, there must be a way to get players to web download...

by **[FTF]Freedom** » Tue Dec 18, 07 3:51 pm

Time for me to jump in....

HEY: Sorry dude but I explained this to you a million fucking times! Now you see why I was less than enthusiastic to host your files?? And Kaiden, I wouldn't agree that 50% of players have Nephthys. No way, man. Unless maybe my server just attracts idiots...

I once thought about adding Nephthys as some sort of ServerPackage or something. If Zora says it doesn't work then I'm happy to believe it doesn't work!

My personal favourite way of getting players to download nephthys is rather intrusive and irritating for them, but it works! I summon a "SiteBot" (I made it, it's easy, do it yourself, no you can't have it) at spawnpoints, and basically whenever a player frobs it it takes them to Zora's Nephthys download page. (bot created to send new recruits to FTF website)

Another fun and probably even more annoying way to bully people into downloading Nephthys is to let them download the map/mod, join ur server, then MMUser them to the Nephthys download site!

And finally, the worst, most evil and irritating way... admin npt status... keep checking this until the offending downloader reaches about 98-99%, then use nephthys to kick them (admin npt kick n=theirname or I=theiripaddress), mid-download. Then rub salt into the wounds by renaming your server to something like "Nephthys Makes Stuff Happen Quicker :-p" (use admin set gamereplicationinfo servername command)

EDIT: Btw, Licentia Pugno, the new, public 0-aug server will not be allowing uploads. Now THAT's a bitch, isn't it? :-p Btw the server will go live on Boxing day.

by **Kaiden** » Tue Dec 18, 07 3:56 pm

So you won't have MTL and stuff?

by **[FTF]Freedom** » Tue Dec 18, 07 4:04 pm

Oops. Didn't explain properly.

I mean the server will have Nephthys and won't be allowing direct uploads from the server itself.

Hopefully if people realise it's a good server (which I'm hoping it will be, I want good map suggestions and config suggestions!), they will take the time to download nephthys. Maybe. Probably not, but maybe. Then again, there tends to be a direct correlation between having Nephthys and having plenty of brain cells...

Btw, I need config/map suggesions and more. Go here, to the server forums: http://online.exofire.net/forum/index.html

Thanks

by **Alex** » Tue Dec 18, 07 5:19 pm

If you have a quality server, you don't need to disable downloading.
Cathedral Terra so far can hold 3 players downloading Lees HongKongInfiniteParty-3 (6.5MB) and 6 players playing, with 0 lag.

by **Kaiden** » Tue Dec 18, 07 5:22 pm

Noticed.

by **[FTF]Freedom** » Tue Dec 18, 07 6:45 pm

Wow, Alex, that's impressive even for a "proper" server! I know the server won't be an amazing powerhouse affair, but it should be good enough.

@ Hey: It could be worth it to build up a "regular user" base of players for a while, and encourage them all to download Nephthys. During this time host smaller maps (in terms of file size), and gradually increase the map sizes as you get more people using it. It's surprising how many NEW DXMP players do still log on for the first time.... they should be HELPED, not insulted. I am relatively new to DXMP, and I didn't know what MTL was for 3 months!

Try the DX Messager mod, and set one of the msgs to be about Nephthys. SEriously, promotion of NEphthys still needs to be done in 2007.

[SHAMELESS PROMOTION]

I am renting the server from GamingDeluxe. Judging by God's Kitchen & JTB/DXS servers, the performance is fine. Never seem to get much of a good ping on RTK server, though. But 2 outta 3 ain't bad...

£2.50 per slot - that's expensive, isn't it. There are other companies willing to host Deus Ex at lower prices, but I can afford 3 months of hosting from GamingDeluxe, so I thought I may as well go with the company I've had good feedback about.

I am urging all reading this (consider urselves urged as of...now) to goto the Licentia Pugno forums, and suggest maps/setup for the new server.

I want this server set up how YOU guys like it (although it has to be 0-augs, since myself and my clan play in this style, and £48.60 is too much for something I'm not gonna play on!). So please PLEASE goto http://online.exofire.net/forum/index.html and visit the forums.

[/SHAMELESS PROMOTION]

by **Bear** » Tue Dec 18, 07 8:48 pm

I think its bloody anoying that people have to have Nephtys, I mean, not everyone hosts do they? And I mostly get these new players in my server who dont have UserInterface, allow uploads on your fast server, it will not lag, I dont see why a rented server will lag, only home hosted ones do.

by **[FTF]Freedom** » Tue Dec 18, 07 8:56 pm

No, all servers lag. Unless you have a ping of actual zero, then you are lagging. But I really can't be arsed to argue, coz I know what ya mean. I will enable uploads, and I will also be sure to set up Nephthys and Nephthys Web Download. Although how to do that without access to the console is beyond me. Any ideas, anyone?

And about "not everyone hosting"... so? Nephthys isn't just marketed to those who host. Nephthys does give you the option of just installing the client, so the hosting comment is kinda irrelevant. Mind you, those who host are indeed morel ikely to have Nephthys already.

MMUserInterface.... now you're really confusing me.... SO? Who cares? I didn't have MMUserInterface until a few days ago. In fact, after my latest HD re-format I don't have it myself... It's not really much-needed at present.

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(fixed forum link) http://online.exofire.net/forum/
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by **Bear** » Tue Dec 18, 07 9:43 pm

I think its quite useful, gives you a favourates list, so if people dont uplink their server to the masterserver you can still join using your favourates.

by **Zora** » Tue Dec 18, 07 11:01 pm

You can remotely configure Nephthys on your server with the npt commands if you're logged in as admin. Just preceed "admin", e.g. "admin npt web support <url>" to add a new download url. You don't need the console to do that.

Nephthys has an option to throttle upload bandwidth. Of course this feature only works properly, if you setup your MaxClientRate and MaxPlayers properly (which is always recommended to offer a lag-free game in full servers). See the Netspeed Calculator in the documentation. If upload bandwidth is throttled accordingly to the server's upload bandwidth then you won't have lag, no matter how many players download directly from your server. Nephthys just reduces their download speed to keep a nice ping for the joined players.

And still no, not all servers lag, even without upload throttling. Your server just needs a higher upload bandwidth than the other players have download bandwidth. E.g. if you have a fast upload connection and a player with a 56k connection downloads, then that doesn't cause lag.

Zora

Npt Web Download Does not do it.

Npt Web Download Does not do it.

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