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AlexDenton wrote:your post has implications of selfishness beyond comprehension
on the other hand, i have the "teacher syndrome" where i feel the need to help those around me
i like interpreting peoples' problems and attempting to help them solve them
i enjoy knowing i have suceeded, and due to my morals, stopping someone from suiciding is a victory
AlexDenton wrote:you can neither tell me what to think, nor change my morals
no matter what life is, life is precious and it is THE most precious thing we have
don't waste it
MrBlack wrote:look ive said it once dez and ill say it again
if life is so unprecious, if life is not worth living, if you have no value of life then why dont u go end it?
2 reasons
1) ur a coward
or
2) u lie to urself
AlexDenton wrote:your post has implications of selfishness beyond comprehension
on the other hand, i have the "teacher syndrome" where i feel the need to help those around me
i like interpreting peoples' problems and attempting to help them solve them
i enjoy knowing i have suceeded, and due to my morals, stopping someone from suiciding is a victory
Derek wrote:You just want me to repeat what I said two posts ago, eh?
FINE
Why let ourselves wither and die when we can come to our end in a matter of seconds.
Offsprings don't suprise me at all, they just continue the cycle of life and death.
Your life may matter to you, but to me, neither mine or anyone elses' lives matter.
We are born to die.
We are not born as precious.
Nothing is precious.
Get that through your head.
[Ã?]HDS wrote:Derek wrote:You just want me to repeat what I said two posts ago, eh?
FINE
Why let ourselves wither and die when we can come to our end in a matter of seconds.
Offsprings don't suprise me at all, they just continue the cycle of life and death.
Your life may matter to you, but to me, neither mine or anyone elses' lives matter.
We are born to die.
We are not born as precious.
Nothing is precious.
Get that through your head.
I agree with this, if we were all to die do you seriously think it would make a huge impact ont he universe, big deal, one person dies, what is so precious about his life? We all will die eventually, the moment we are born we start dieing.
note: i also agree with the bolded part.
Seriously, the only reason why the society of today holds life as precious is because they fear death, why who knows, they'll get there anyways, if they go by themselves int heir prime years when they shall be remembered or if they go when they can't move anymore, are in tremendous pain and are almost blind and deaf, is up to them. Sooner or later you will die.
The universe doesnt need us, get that through your heads, just look at what bullshite we have cause on this planet alone, imagine what we would cause to other utopian alien civilizations maybe, or what we would cause to the rest of the universe.
We do not matter, nothing does, if two black holes will colide in 1000 years and create the big crunch do you think they will give a shit that we say "Oh noes!!!!! life is so precious we must not waste it, why would we do something like that?" And especially those who commit suicide should not be pitied, it was their choice, if they are up for it, happy killing. Seriously, what is wrong with people, they think that the people who commit suicide are something to be pitied, it was THEIR choice, it is their fault they let themselves fall into depression, why should i have to/ be forced to care if they will kill themselves or have killed themselves?
As far as i am concerned it does not affect me, they wanted it, they brought it upon themselves so be it. I seriously could not care less if somebody i mknew at school was to commit suicide, to tell the truth i would actually think how it could help me, a girl was kidnapped nto long ago, i hated her, but hey, i still got alot of extra sympathy factor, free marks, anything i wanted, example is; *I go up to guy buying a coke* "Hey m8, could you please get me one too?", even if i don't know him, he goes: "Wait, you're the friend of *personally i couldnt care less what her name was/is* sorry man, here, it's on me!". I think how i can manipulate things to my advantage, to bring me to power, to heigheten my standings.
Like i said, the fact that somebody kills themselves, i couldnt really care less, why, because life is no big deal, life is not precious, the life you and most people hold precious is human life, which proves that not only are most of you cowards, no offence, but you also are narssisistic, i mean, what seperates you from animals? Why would your life be more precious then theirs.
Only life you really care about is humans, so like i said, i have learned not to acre about any life, it is not precious, it s just life it is not some strange miracle that we have created.
[Ã?]HDS wrote:I agree with this, if we were all to die do you seriously think it would make a huge impact ont he universe, big deal, one person dies, what is so precious about his life? We all will die eventually, the moment we are born we start dieing.
note: i also agree with the bolded part.
HDS wrote:Seriously, the only reason why the society of today holds life as precious is because they fear death, why who knows, they'll get there anyways, if they go by themselves int heir prime years when they shall be remembered or if they go when they can't move anymore, are in tremendous pain and are almost blind and deaf, is up to them. Sooner or later you will die.
HDS wrote:The universe doesnt need us, get that through your heads, just look at what bullshite we have cause on this planet alone, imagine what we would cause to other utopian alien civilizations maybe, or what we would cause to the rest of the universe.
HDS wrote:We do not matter, nothing does, if two black holes will colide in 1000 years and create the big crunch do you think they will give a shit that we say "Oh noes!!!!! life is so precious we must not waste it, why would we do something like that?" And especially those who commit suicide should not be pitied, it was their choice, if they are up for it, happy killing. Seriously, what is wrong with people, they think that the people who commit suicide are something to be pitied, it was THEIR choice, it is their fault they let themselves fall into depression, why should i have to/ be forced to care if they will kill themselves or have killed themselves?
HDS wrote:As far as i am concerned it does not affect me, they wanted it, they brought it upon themselves so be it. I seriously could not care less if somebody i mknew at school was to commit suicide, to tell the truth i would actually think how it could help me, a girl was kidnapped nto long ago, i hated her, but hey, i still got alot of extra sympathy factor, free marks, anything i wanted, example is; *I go up to guy buying a coke* "Hey m8, could you please get me one too?", even if i don't know him, he goes: "Wait, you're the friend of *personally i couldnt care less what her name was/is* sorry man, here, it's on me!". I think how i can manipulate things to my advantage, to bring me to power, to heigheten my standings.
HDS wrote:Like i said, the fact that somebody kills themselves, i couldnt really care less, why, because life is no big deal, life is not precious, the life you and most people hold precious is human life, which proves that not only are most of you cowards, no offence, but you also are narssisistic, i mean, what seperates you from animals? Why would your life be more precious then theirs.
HDS wrote:Only life you really care about is humans, so like i said, i have learned not to acre about any life, it is not precious, it s just life it is not some strange miracle that we have created.
DarkKnight wrote:Ok, now to respond. ^__^[Ã?]HDS wrote:I agree with this, if we were all to die do you seriously think it would make a huge impact ont he universe, big deal, one person dies, what is so precious about his life? We all will die eventually, the moment we are born we start dieing.
note: i also agree with the bolded part.
Dieing is not the big thing, life is.
If you waste your life, then you are indeed a looser, however, one life can make more differance then you can comprehend.HDS wrote:Seriously, the only reason why the society of today holds life as precious is because they fear death, why who knows, they'll get there anyways, if they go by themselves int heir prime years when they shall be remembered or if they go when they can't move anymore, are in tremendous pain and are almost blind and deaf, is up to them. Sooner or later you will die.
True, you will die. It is fact 1 of living, without the knowledge of dieing, are you truely alive?
Although to say the only reason we hold life dear is because we fear death is an arrogant view of a person who has yet to taste life, commonly known as a child. One day you will find something that will make your existance into 'life', then you will understand my comment.HDS wrote:The universe doesnt need us, get that through your heads, just look at what bullshite we have cause on this planet alone, imagine what we would cause to other utopian alien civilizations maybe, or what we would cause to the rest of the universe.
I completely agree, we are but a spec of dust in the universe, however, we are not talking about the effects on the universe, we are talking about the effects we can have on our fellow human beings.HDS wrote:We do not matter, nothing does, if two black holes will colide in 1000 years and create the big crunch do you think they will give a shit that we say "Oh noes!!!!! life is so precious we must not waste it, why would we do something like that?" And especially those who commit suicide should not be pitied, it was their choice, if they are up for it, happy killing. Seriously, what is wrong with people, they think that the people who commit suicide are something to be pitied, it was THEIR choice, it is their fault they let themselves fall into depression, why should i have to/ be forced to care if they will kill themselves or have killed themselves?
Indeed it may have been their 'choice', but at the time they think it is their only choice. You where once in this position, in the position that makes you belive that there are a limited amount of options. Every person in this forum has, and to deny that is to deny being born.
We pitty them because we know what they could have been, we pitty them because they threw away the chance to live, we pitty them because it is our nature.HDS wrote:As far as i am concerned it does not affect me, they wanted it, they brought it upon themselves so be it. I seriously could not care less if somebody i mknew at school was to commit suicide, to tell the truth i would actually think how it could help me, a girl was kidnapped nto long ago, i hated her, but hey, i still got alot of extra sympathy factor, free marks, anything i wanted, example is; *I go up to guy buying a coke* "Hey m8, could you please get me one too?", even if i don't know him, he goes: "Wait, you're the friend of *personally i couldnt care less what her name was/is* sorry man, here, it's on me!". I think how i can manipulate things to my advantage, to bring me to power, to heigheten my standings.
Cold mate, very cold.
However it is your right to do so, no one is stopping you from taking advantage of the situation. However, before you be so calus with her memory, prehaps you should consider that hate is nothing but a wasted emotion, it serves no purpose. To not mourn her loss because you hate her shows that you are indeed the victem, not her.HDS wrote:Like i said, the fact that somebody kills themselves, i couldnt really care less, why, because life is no big deal, life is not precious, the life you and most people hold precious is human life, which proves that not only are most of you cowards, no offence, but you also are narssisistic, i mean, what seperates you from animals? Why would your life be more precious then theirs.
Who here said "I only mean human life!", I for one, did not. All life is precious, be it a dung bettle, or a tiger.
I will fully admit I eat meat, however I must eat, as the other animals must also. We are nothing but a link in the chain.HDS wrote:Only life you really care about is humans, so like i said, i have learned not to acre about any life, it is not precious, it s just life it is not some strange miracle that we have created.
It is very precious, but it may not become evedent untill you have something / someone to make it precious.
May I just say: HDS, you are a very sad being, I hope for your sake someone comes into your life and shows you the true point of being alive. Untill then, your views are your views, however if you feel the need to try and 'prove' life is worthless, try talking to people who do not grasp life and it's beauty.
Derek wrote:Life doesn't have a beauty. Don't you see? LIFE DOESN'T EXIST! It's just fate and destiny, and death. Life is but a mere specter of our world. You shouldn't live life and its amazement, I don't see the point, emotions don't exist, NOTHING EXISTS EXCEPT FOR MANKIND, DEATH, DESTINY, FATE and the tools that require those. Please try to understand, no matter what you do, that doesn't do anything to prevent your death, so you are merely wasting your time.
AlexDenton wrote:stevie is right
there is no argument
our logic is undeniable
if life is so worthless to you, why are your here, why are you arguing with us, why are you even bothering to take part in the conversation?
because your purpose at the moment is to try and make us see your point of view, and does that not give you a goal just now?
if life is so useless, then why are we born?
what if there is no afterlife? you wouldn't even have the chance to regret killing yourself, because you are gone, forever... and ended the only chance you have to be free and do what you want
instead of being so stubborn and wallowing in your own anti-life misery, open up and look at the bigger picture! look at the world as a whole
look at history, look to the future
life is a brilliant thing, without it, there would be nothing
life is good
AlexDenton wrote:abseloutly ridiculous
our words are not meaningless, or stupid as you seem to think
are you saying that modern day cults should ruin what man has been loving for the past 33,000 years?
what this EARTH has been locing for the past million years?
live is REAL
REAL is life
live it
Derek wrote:The only reaction here is not understanding what I mean.
I'm not reacting like some "all-knowing guru" or whatever you said. You do not have any right to justify me as that current state.
Why doesn't someone lock this topic before you all get on my nerve?
AlexDenton wrote:Derek wrote:The only reaction here is not understanding what I mean.
I'm not reacting like some "all-knowing guru" or whatever you said. You do not have any right to justify me as that current state.
Why doesn't someone lock this topic before you all get on my nerve?
did you not realise that the style in which your posted was very "guru" like
lmao
it was full of "you are talking bs, i am right"
if freedom of speech exists then our side of the argument is legitimate
i know man is evil, but our puropse in life is to STOP that evil, dont you see it?
if you go on living life half heartedly, and letting it go on the way it is, the situation will never change and people in the future will continue the greed we see every day
with modern technology we should NOT put our greed first, but what love we have left for one another, and who can love someone else, when they do not love themselves