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Postby clyzm » Wed Aug 23, 06 9:41 pm

Damn, it's a pattern.

-The better you become at augs, the more cocky you become at the game.
-The better you become at 0 augs, the more you want to play the game.

This is why I prefer editing community, there's more peace and less drama than that of playing community.
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Postby Allan » Wed Aug 23, 06 9:42 pm

So true man, so true.
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Postby synthetic » Wed Aug 23, 06 9:53 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Damn, Messiah turned into an aug prick.

The perfect Deus Ex in all ways.


The perfect Deus Ex is not augs, nor is it 0 augs. The perfect Deus Ex lets you choose what you want to play instead of forcing it on you.

Who gives a shit about the single player first of all?


That's low. DXMP is nothing, a pure waste of game without Single player. Single Player is MORE important than DXMP. Don't forget, they made single player first, then they made DXMP. DXMP is an attachment to it, and it is turning out to be a liability.

4.) Sure. But no-augging should not be connected to Deus Ex in any way. It is a caricature of Deus Ex.


If you're not related to anyone who made the game, then you have no say in this.

I'm only talking english and pure facts.


Your brain recongizes your useless ramblings as "facts", but that's your brain, as we all know, it is damaged.

You should not accuse me of discrimination since I said nowhere I approve the way no-aug servers are being crushed.


ut surely if a bot that destroys the newbish no-aug servers is handed out to me, I would considered using it. Not because I would want to ruin your fun, just because I would want you to have even more fun. So instead of saying for example that DejaVu is doing something wrong when crushing down no-aug servers you should thank him for doing a favor for you all.


Congratulations, you owned yourself.

More?

1.) No, I do not. I have never said anything like this.


you should rather remember how we provided the whole lame mediocre, augless community the opportunity to learn to play the real Deus Ex the way the producers wanted it to be played.


Damn, I don't have to type anything, you contradict yourself with your own words.

Personally I don't care how much skill you have, you attitude is shit. But I can guess that from all auggers, they may be good players but their attitude is cocky, arrogant and ignorant, like you.


im tired of this bs so ill just quote derek. once i agree with what he says and he does imo nice job replying here.

edit: also, dxsp community would have quite a bit to say about this aswell, considering how they think of mp as a failure and an irrelavant add-on. DXSP is the game i love and dxmp provides two different games to choose from. I play both augs and 0augs and prefer one or another for different reasons. But i play it to shoot at something and not follow a storyline. Also, I play it for teamwork.
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Postby DarkKnight » Wed Aug 23, 06 9:57 pm

"There is no statute of limitations on stupidity."

Proven this day.

Messiah, look back over the thread, a few servers already have protection from the attacks, and more will follow. A more permanent fix will hopefully be along shortly.

Crash my server, please. It will give me an IP related to you, and nothing would please me more then to ban it.

As far as the whole Augged/0-augged debate goes, look at the server list during these attacks, notice any trends? I did, I noticed my server (0-aug no-sniper) getting more and more traffic, and the few 0-aug servers up followed suit. I noticed the augged servers where almost empty.

Personally, I don't give a shit what some wanker says about how a game should be played, it won't change the fact that 0-aug and mod servers are more fun to play then augged servers.

But of course, I know what you're thinking "He got sick of being owned in augs, Lololz, I'm so leet. *touches self*", but you'd be wrong. I pretty constantly get owned by better players in CSS, and ET, about the only other FPs' I play. I don't agro over it, nor do I care if they are better, I'm having fun while I play.

Augs are boring imo, with the exception of speed in smugs with DTS, which is a scream.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Aug 23, 06 9:58 pm

Imho single player is better than multiplayer now. I pray that there will be an augger who doesn't act as cocky as messiah and loves both augs and 0 augs, but the chances are greatly decreasing.
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Postby Cozmo » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:14 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Imho single player is better than multiplayer now. I pray that there will be an augger who doesn't act as cocky as messiah and loves both augs and 0 augs, but the chances are greatly decreasing.


Sounds like me... :lol:
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Postby MainMan » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:27 pm

These days I just play in modded or "fun" servers, be it augs or non-augs. My mod (MainMansCity) that I'm making has augs as an "elite" feature to the players that have gained a special ranking.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:30 pm

~MainMan~ wrote:These days I just play in modded or "fun" servers, be it augs or non-augs. My mod (MainMansCity) that I'm making has augs as an "elite" feature to the players that have gained a special ranking.


When are we testing the mod again, btw?
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Postby Spiderbot01 » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:32 pm

~MainMan~ wrote:These days I just play in modded or "fun" servers, be it augs or non-augs. My mod (MainMansCity) that I'm making has augs as an "elite" feature to the players that have gained a special ranking.


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Postby MainMan » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:36 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
~MainMan~ wrote:These days I just play in modded or "fun" servers, be it augs or non-augs. My mod (MainMansCity) that I'm making has augs as an "elite" feature to the players that have gained a special ranking.


When are we testing the mod again, btw?


Eeh not for a while, I didn't get that mapping done before my holiday, but now I'm kinda busy (although I am working on it at least a bit each day)
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Postby messiah » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:42 pm

I wrote a huuuuuge, long post but decided to delete it since none here would get my point, anyway. So to put it in just a few words..

All I wanted was that the tBoT members are left out of this before getting some real evidence of us crashing your servers. So far I have not seen any and I doubt I will in the future because we could care less about the way you play your games, ffs. If some of our augged servers would or will get crashed, we surely are not going to mention your clan tag, your clan's players or anything connecting your clan to some hacking thing before we'd have some evidence. Now why we would not do this? It is not only fair towards your clan, it also prevents the newbies getting wrong impressions.

So all I asked in my opinion was fairness, good politics and nice sportsmanship. It is a completely different thing to argue about which game type is better than if your clan is hacking or not.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Aug 23, 06 10:47 pm

messiah wrote:I wrote a huuuuuge, long post but decided to delete it since none here would get my point, anyway. So to put it in just a few words..

All I wanted was that the tBoT members are left out of this before getting some real evidence of us crashing your servers. So far I have not seen any and I doubt I will in the future because we could care less about the way you play your games, ffs. If some of our augged servers would or will get crashed, we surely are not going to mention your clan tag, your clan's players or anything connecting your clan to some hacking thing before we'd have some evidence. Now why we would not do this? It is not only fair towards your clan, it also prevents the newbies getting wrong impressions.

So all I asked in my opinion was fairness, good politics and nice sportsmanship. It is a completely different thing to argue about which game type is better than if your clan is hacking or not.


Hey, don't look at me. If I were you, I'd post that long post, I'd be interested to read it. I do not blame anyone other than DejaVu for this circumstance, and will not unless I see any proper evidence.

I hope you saved that long-ass post in a .txt file somewhere.
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Postby rob » Wed Aug 23, 06 11:40 pm

DXSP was gr8, if it wasnt for that i wouldnt of got the goty edition when it came out, i cant really remember, when DXMP was first around did 0 aug and augers get along, back then i played once a month (ish) different alias everytime, and i didnt post on any forums and didnt have a clan

has there always been this tension??

but clyzm has a fair point in his long post above. this is all stupid, we are obviously never going to get along, lets just leave eachother alone, the 0 aug people dnt hack all aug servers do they?? what have we ever done to you guys??

i dnt like augs, mod servers, anything, (arrogant way of playing) i jus like a plain server with a sniper, assault and shotgun/pistol. you may tell me to go play CS, i would if my pc ran it, but instead i have to play dx in the 'style of cs' (lol even thou it isnt like that much)
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Postby ......................... » Wed Aug 23, 06 11:44 pm

rob wrote:DXSP was gr8, if it wasnt for that i wouldnt of got the goty edition when it came out, i cant really remember, when DXMP was first around did 0 aug and augers get along, back then i played once a month (ish) different alias everytime, and i didnt post on any forums and didnt have a clan

has there always been this tension??

but clyzm has a fair point in his long post above. this is all stupid, we are obviously never going to get along, lets just leave eachother alone, the 0 aug people dnt hack all aug servers do they?? what have we ever done to you guys??

i dnt like augs, mod servers, anything, (arrogant way of playing) i jus like a plain server with a sniper, assault and shotgun/pistol. you may tell me to go play CS, i would if my pc ran it, but instead i have to play dx in the 'style of cs' (lol even thou it isnt like that much)


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Postby Dae » Thu Aug 24, 06 12:00 am

messiah wrote: It is a completely different thing to argue about which game type is better

We were arguing if zero-aug and other gametypes, different to augs, have a right to exist. Believe me or not, but personally i prefer augs to zero-aug (however, not ATDM - i had no chance during my Deus Ex experience to play it regularly).

I'll lock this topic and all the information about actual development of the mod will be posted in another topic in Deus Ex or maybe Blog sections of this forum.
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