Worst news: FGS closes all servers

[synthetic]

Screenshots like this are epic, I dont remember that many players even from GODZ server.

PLATOON or LAGOON or wtf it was called has some nice unmodded maps there, one, made by shadowrunner I believe, is excellent 0auged combat map for 30 players.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Zant - That's why Sunny Side exists.

It seems to me that Messiah person is a total joke. He blasphemes, calls himself the "Messiah" and dares to comment on my clan's name. He also seems to have some beef and is talking as if he wanted to remove FGS from DX. This man's language is offensive, he can not refer to someone without deciding if they aug or 0-aug, when in fact all of the remaining FGS do both.

Could someone let this jerk know, that FGS was running 2 augged servers before one of them was removed. And sure Messiah, we never shirk from a fight, augged or otherwise.

And yes scoreboard can only display 28 of the 32 players in the server.

I never asked Icho why we are called Fookin German Sausages, but I think you will find it is because, being one of the first 0-aug servers and the oldest active clan in DX, that it was probably an augger who called it the "fucking german server" and that's how we got the name...

[Zantinzuken]

Zant - That's why Sunny Side exists.

There have been a LOT of better servers than the like of Sunny Side, now I'm not belittling the hoster. Zora has gone out of his/her way to help out this community, I am grateful.

But 10 slots, sporadic ping and a kill limit bring it down considerably. Something more solid, that produces the default maps and no "beginners" training stuff. I think we now have enough aug/0-aug beginner servers...

[clyzm]

Well Zora doesn't exactly know 100% what people expect in a DX server, he's not a DX vet.

[Zantinzuken]

Which is understandable, I don't expect him to know too much about the community or even to conform to it. Still nice to see it up though.

[synthetic]

Sunny side became a symbol of free deus ex when dejavu carried out the attacks. The server has always been rather crap, yet its nice to see it up and running.

[Dae]

That server represented pure crap and was controlled by a total retard.

you seem to degrade by yourself message by message

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Zant, not at all are you belittling anyone, obviously there could be a better default map server. What I'm trying to understand is why players would rather fight on default maps than see something new. Also the same applies to weps.

Something more solid, that produces the default maps and no "beginners" training stuff. I think we now have enough aug/0-aug beginner servers...

What do you mean by "beginners training stuff". U mean the custom community are crap at mapping, or u mean server settings for beginners?

It's an interesting thought, to make platoon a default map server, and believe it or not, one which I am considering, because of dial-up players having problems getting hold of updated maps and weps etc. But tbh I doubt it will happen because we wish to serve not only players, but also the mapping and modding community as well.

EDIT: I think for now, I will make a rule on the server that there will be no hosting of any mapper or modder, unless the files are ALREADY posted in forums, so therefore no dial-up player will ever be excluded.

[~ô¿ô~Nobody~]

Dial-up players need to download it too. If from the server or from the forums doesn't matter, since it's not faster in their case.

[[FGS]ShadowRunner]

Ketchup reckons 2 or 3 hours download time for Orbital + Gauss gun.

Guess we could have a DXSG week and gametimes of like 6 hours. Scores might be interesting...

[Imperial]

Zant - That's why Sunny Side exists.

It seems to me that Messiah person is a total joke. He blasphemes, calls himself the "Messiah" and dares to comment on my clan's name. He also seems to have some beef and is talking as if he wanted to remove FGS from DX. This man's language is offensive, he can not refer to someone without deciding if they aug or 0-aug, when in fact all of the remaining FGS do both.

Could someone let this jerk know, that FGS was running 2 augged servers before one of them was removed. And sure Messiah, we never shirk from a fight, augged or otherwise.

And yes scoreboard can only display 28 of the 32 players in the server.

I never asked Icho why we are called Fookin German Sausages, but I think you will find it is because, being one of the first 0-aug servers and the oldest active clan in DX, that it was probably an augger who called it the "fucking german server" and that's how we got the name...

He described it once, this guy went into a french server ( don't ask me lol) and then couldn't understand anything, mistaking the language to be German and said " Fucking German Servers" Something like that anyway heh. Then Ichotolot heard up on it and thought it to be a good name for the clan.

[Spiderbot01]

Zant, not at all are you belittling anyone, obviously there could be a better default map server. What I'm trying to understand is why players would rather fight on default maps than see something new.

Because the default maps are just better.

[~ô¿ô~Nobody~]

W r o n g .

[Imperial]

no loading times, you're in there within a matter of seconds.

[Cozmo]

And the same repetitive shit again and again.

If it was the same original mappers making new maps, then it would be good!

[Zantinzuken]

Zant, not at all are you belittling anyone, obviously there could be a better default map server. What I'm trying to understand is why players would rather fight on default maps than see something new. Also the same applies to weps.

Something more solid, that produces the default maps and no "beginners" training stuff. I think we now have enough aug/0-aug beginner servers...

What do you mean by "beginners training stuff". U mean the custom community are crap at mapping, or u mean server settings for beginners?

The latter, I respect the modding community, 0-augs is a mod itself in a way, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I meant that with Deja's servers teaching players how to aug etc. I doubt we need more of them, as when I was playing we didn't have that and plenty of people still came through the ranks...

I prefer normal maps and weapons because if I wanted to play a certain way (rpg, funline etc.) I'd probably just play a different game that caters that a lot better. Although Mainman's mod was quite refreshing.

[~ô¿ô~Nobody~]

Wrong yet again.
If DX was only a simple shooter without any fun or rpg, like you state that, it would be completely dead already.

[synthetic]

Deus Ex needs no "fun" or "rpg" mods to be "fun" or "rpg".

If deus ex lived only due to such mods we would only have godz server permanent residents in dxmp, of age 8-12.

[Zantinzuken]

I never ONCE said that DX was a simple shooter. I stated that I prefer DX with normal maps and normal weapons, that if I wanted the experience of an RPG, I'd go and play Final Fantasy or a Nintendo party game.

Sure the mods are quite immense sometimes, but I don't like EVERY mod/map. I quite like 0-augs as a mod, but I also like MMCity...but I generally steer clear of Funline.

I never stated that mods aren't keeping the game alive, either. In fact, I stated EXACTLY the opposite. I said that 0-augs was a mod itself, so if I were in any way proclaiming "normal" as the saviour of an active DX, I was also insinuating that it was alive because of a mod of DXMP's original intention: Augs.

[Kaiden]

You just don't have to play Funline etc. Many people still play it which means it's beneficial for the community.

[clyzm]

In this thread total lack of respect for modders

[synthetic]

In this thread total lack of respect for modders

not all modders deserve respect.

[Kaiden]

If someone creates something with the intentions to improve the community and provide entertainment for other players deserves respect. It won't change the actions they have done in the past though (MainMan).

[synthetic]

So if i were to create maps that basically are 256*256 boxes with grass tex, and put only one spawn point there, just in the middle, high in the air, but not too high, and if I would add scaled up gep gun with LAW damage, then I would really deserve respect. I had nothing but the intentions to improve the community and provide entertainment for other players in mind when I made the map and weapon.

I would add 4 switches to that box, too, when you click the switch everybody on the map would instantly die, including the one pressing the button.



I think its awesome, I want to be cool modder too.

Oh, and I fucking respect Nochanc for the quality maps and mods he has blessed the community with. THank You!

[Zantinzuken]

You just don't have to play Funline etc. Many people still play it which means it's beneficial for the community.

I know I don't have to play funline as I haven't for the past 3-4 years. I never said it wasn't helping the community. I believe some people here think that this is another elitest vs modder contest and everything I say is an attack on modders. When I've CLEARLY stated that I respect mods and like some of them.

Or are you guys just convincing yourselves that "mods are saving dx!!" rather then telling me?

[synthetic]

Keith actually made Funline.

Oh and Ken, if you can make that, I'd like to see it please.

Im not a cool modder, Ill leave that respect to someone else. Thank you.

[Spiderbot01]

Then don't take the piss out of what you can't do.

[synthetic]

Then don't take the piss out of what you can't do.

You obviously were unable to comprehend the point I made with the ridiculous example.
And you forbid me from taking the piss? You feel touched as an Alpha member yet you don't get the point, do you.


Perhaps it is because DX modding community is the only modding community you have been a part of. Modders are individuals with the individual point of view on how the game could be "improved". In a community of the scale of DXMP they feel like they have the power over the game. The way they have felt for years. This is not normal. Do you know what is normal?
You respect the modder you think is worth something, you think has given something for the community. It is all in the eyes of the players, of the individuals, in your eyes. The rest of the modders can in your eyes be very simply shit, but it is always to remember: modders indeed give getting nothing practical back. This is why you don't flame the modders for their creation.
Modders who think they run the show, or think their mods have kept the game alive, or think their mods should be the default game, make a nice exception. They deserve no respect, they only deserve flames. it very simply equals what dejavu tried to do.

[~ô¿ô~Nobody~]

Then don't take the piss out of what you can't do.

You obviously were unable to comprehend the point I made with the ridiculous example.
And you forbid me from taking the piss? You feel touched as an Alpha member yet you don't get the point, do you.


Perhaps it is because DX modding community is the only modding community you have been a part of. Modders are individuals with the individual point of view on how the game could be "improved". In a community of the scale of DXMP they feel like they have the power over the game. The way they have felt for years. This is not normal. Do you know what is normal?
You respect the modder you think is worth something, you think has given something for the community. It is all in the eyes of the players, of the individuals, in your eyes. The rest of the modders can in your eyes be very simply shit, but it is always to remember: modders indeed give getting nothing practical back. This is why you don't flame the modders for their creation.
Modders who think they run the show, or think their mods have kept the game alive, or think their mods should be the default game, make a nice exception. They deserve no respect, they only deserve flames. it very simply equals what dejavu tried to do.

Well, as you said. In DX the role of modders is another one. Thus get used to it and behave accordingly.

[clyzm]

Yeah, uh not all players deserve respect either, all they deserve is flaming because players never did shit for this game. And no, don't give me that "but they keep the game alive by playing, without players there is no dx!" Those "modders" who worked hours for your entertainment can play, too. You see, it's easy for modders to become players, but not for players to become modders.

A good case is this: I'm a modder, but I also play MP. I learned modding BEFORE I learned how to play well in augs or 0 augs in multiplayer. Then, one day, I decided to play DXMP and I became decent.

Messiah, for example (no offense, just using you as an example) has played DXMP his whole career, and he plays ATDM very very well. However, just like his bluff that he can take down FGS servers, he cannot learn modding like I learned DXMP gaming in a day.