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I only download warez because they're free. If they cost money, then I might aswell buy the real deal.
~MainMan~ wrote:If someone wants to get pirate software, why would they pay for it? I only download warez because they're free. If they cost money, then I might aswell buy the real deal.
~MainMan~ wrote:Yeah but it's still illegal, and therefore has no advantage over just getting it from a warez site. Fact of the matter is, it makes more sense to get it from a warez site, because it's free. The only benefit of getting it legally is the fact that it's legal, and you can have support etc etc. The actual shit is the same.
~MainMan~ wrote:The actual shit is the same.
Dae wrote:[...] E.g. you can take my Kaspersky key, bring it to support.kaspersky.com, register with it there and get official support. Same goes with Microsoft Office and all Steam games. Noone cares where you bought software unless you're a company.
The business is not legal because obviously we don't pay VAT, customs tax and shitloads of other taxes, we aren't authorized to resell without permission of the producer etc etc.
Psychotic wrote:"You just hate everything don'tcha? You're just a big pound of hate, aint'cha?"
~MainMan~ wrote:Okay, so basically it's halfway between warez and legal?
~MainMan~ wrote:Psychotic wrote:"You just hate everything don'tcha? You're just a big pound of hate, aint'cha?"
How immature are you? Just because I disagree with something, doesn't mean that I 'hate' it, for the simple reason that I am over 10 years old.
Legion wrote:By default, I'm bi. However I've spent a great deal of time "burying" that aspect of me...
nofuckingclue wrote:Knew this thing wasn't that legit
majinbuu1023 wrote:He actually does have the right to sell it, What law says you can't buy games and then sell them? hell he lives in russia, he could probably host child porn and get away with it (from what i've heard about russia and china, the laws on internet copyrights arent too great, for the publisher haha).
majinbuu1023 wrote:This way everybody is winning
the publisher gets money of which they normally wouldnt get because of warez
dae gets money of which he normally wouldnt get because he doesnt get money for doing nothing
we get a cool piece of software or game for cheaper, and it works with steam/its legit so you can get the updates and you can play on the real servers.
Dae wrote:~MainMan~ wrote:If someone wants to get pirate software, why would they pay for it? I only download warez because they're free. If they cost money, then I might aswell buy the real deal.
I don't see your point. The software & games by themselves are absolutely legal. You get all the official updates and support, for games you also get multiplayer, but you don't get a CD in a shiny box and printed user-guide on several languages which you will never read anyway.
In terms of moral, you still appreciate the producer with your money.
E.g. you can take my Kaspersky key, bring it to support.kaspersky.com, register with it there and get official support. Same goes with Microsoft Office and all Steam games. Noone cares where you bought software unless you're a company.
The business is not legal because obviously we don't pay VAT, customs tax and shitloads of other taxes, we aren't authorized to resell without permission of the producer etc etc.
Shinobi wrote:Y'know, this could always actually turn into a legit outfit... I'm serious. Get yourselves VAT registered, and registered as either a partnership or sole trader or however the business laws work in your country, I'm not proficient in Russian law, lol.
Dae wrote:Shinobi wrote:Y'know, this could always actually turn into a legit outfit... I'm serious. Get yourselves VAT registered, and registered as either a partnership or sole trader or however the business laws work in your country, I'm not proficient in Russian law, lol.
It doesn't make a lot of sense with small profits we get.
Additionally, we can't legally avoid price discrimination without violating terms of some agreements with the producers.
Psychotic wrote:How could they argue what price you're selling the games for so long as they get some form of cut?