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Postby Professor Layton » Mon Jan 30, 12 11:09 am

Bronze Silver and Gold take up about 70-75% of the active player base

How are platinum and diamond anywhere in the middle compared to that?

Besides didn't you say terran required extreme micro in the middle leagues? In the higher leagues (high diamond/low masters and up) you're right, but we can't call that middle leagues anymore really.
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Postby James » Mon Jan 30, 12 11:42 am

I've always grouped Bronze, Silver and Gold as similar!, mainly due to how ambiguous they can be to progress from 1 year and a half of research of progression. It isn't uncommon for a bronze to fight high gold and actually standing a fair chance for example. Without going too much into it that's why a lot of us consider them the lower skill leagues of the current B,S,G;P,D;M,GM leagues.

Nothing to do with population, otherwise they will be seen as the higher leagues with your logic! Everything else you've mentioned is right though. But I'm not biased and I do believe it requires a lot more control and thought to play as Terrans until the higher levels of play. Rarely you will be able to win with a relaxed and as passive playstyle compared to the other two races as Terran.

Just have to accept, just like like StarCraft 1, Terran is the subjectively hardest to learn to play 'properly' at low level and mid level, yet subjectively strongest at high level play.
[spoiler]Where Protoss was also the easiest to learn, but... underpowered at high level play... okay my argument is forfeit, you win.[/spoiler]
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Postby Professor Layton » Mon Jan 30, 12 12:51 pm

I do believe it requires a lot more control and thought to play as Terrans until the higher levels of play.
I could agree with control, but macrozerg would like a word with you about thought.
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Postby James » Mon Jan 30, 12 1:18 pm

MAEK DRONE
MAEK LARVAE
MAEK LING

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I know I know, early/mid game can be a b****.
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 30, 12 2:03 pm

just lost to a protoss who went ffe into 6-7 gate mass stalkers with blink and +2 attack
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Postby Professor Layton » Mon Jan 30, 12 2:25 pm

+2 attack?

Damn dex that is very unoptimal from the protoss point of view.

Did you not scout the mass gateways with an overlord?

Did he even have a robo? Did you have at least 1/1 upgrades?
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 30, 12 2:32 pm

i didn't
yes he did have a robo
i think i had +1 attack

just lost to a zerg who kept harrassing me with lings and banes and then transitioned to mutas
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Postby James » Mon Jan 30, 12 2:34 pm

Dex I'm still laughing at our 3 rax no gas + 7 roach rush mega cheese.
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Postby Professor Layton » Mon Jan 30, 12 2:44 pm

Dex wrote:i didn't
yes he did have a robo
i think i had +1 attack

just lost to a zerg who kept harrassing me with lings and banes and then transitioned to mutas
I can look at replay of the PvZ later I guess.

ZvZ:
ling bane wars can be a bitch, try to keep your banelings alive while trying to kill your opponent's. Get a spine or 2 at your natural if your opponent is still getting a lot of ling bane.

as for mutas...

OVERSEERBASESCOUT

in your ZvZs you NEED to find out whether he's planning on going mutalisks or something else.
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Postby Dex » Mon Jan 30, 12 3:04 pm

i did scout mutas but what should i have done
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Postby Professor Layton » Mon Jan 30, 12 3:29 pm

Either kill him with roaches just before his mutas are out. Or just get a little bit of static defense and a few extra queens, while teching to hydras first, then infestors. Roach hydra infestor should take down muta styles easily, as long as you dont let your hydras and infestors get killed by banelings. (fungal pretty good against banelings)
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Postby James » Mon Jan 30, 12 5:17 pm

I'll be laddering tonight, and I want everyone to ladder too.

Minimal 3 games. Less do this.

BUT before that I am watching the British showmatch between best U.K players (DeMuslim and BlinG) hosted by the worst British commentator; Total Biscuit

www.twitch.tv/totalbiscuit
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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 11:02 am

How many games did you play in the end james?

Sen got through the code A Ro48, 2-1
He won 2 good macro games, by just getting far ahead.
Lost a game by doing agression with early baneling nest which failed.

Let's see how IdrA and HuK will fare :]
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Postby James » Tue Jan 31, 12 11:30 am

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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 11:31 am

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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 12:13 pm

dice toss is actually using 2 dice now!

idra got 7gated and lost game 1

I guess that's the end of IdrA's GSL run :(

btw

"beautiful forcefields"
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Postby James » Tue Jan 31, 12 12:19 pm

BEAUTIFUL SINGLE BUTTON PRESSES
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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 12:38 pm

Another 2base allin, GG

idra opened up with speedling expand though, shows he's actually trying to find a safer opening I guess.
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Postby James » Tue Jan 31, 12 12:46 pm

Did you know, that at one point, protoss were considered underpowered?

Surely the recent runs will allow mass nerfs for protoss?
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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 12:59 pm

Hey james

Huk kept making mistakes, his DT play got scouted and handled without any losses, he's stuck vs mutas which are apparently impossible to defeat...

The muta ball is so huge and forces a basetrade and HuK wins.
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Postby James » Tue Jan 31, 12 1:09 pm

Hey guys Stalkers have a hard time shooting down mutalisks compare to marine dps.

*blink makes up for any lost time and can chase mutas easier*
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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 1:36 pm

"Zerg is on 4 base compared to 2 base protoss, but the protoss has 2 archons"

That's literally what one of the casters said :p
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Postby James » Tue Jan 31, 12 2:03 pm

Analysing replays tonight after SS2.

Want to be Platinum next season.
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Postby Professor Layton » Tue Jan 31, 12 2:52 pm

We'll be platinum terran m8s
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Postby Professor Layton » Wed Feb 01, 12 9:05 am

laddering today?
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Postby James » Wed Feb 01, 12 5:34 pm

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Postby Aidan » Wed Feb 01, 12 8:53 pm

I'm laddering hard in NA servers.
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Postby James » Wed Feb 01, 12 10:27 pm

Don't play TvZ with your top off in winter.
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Postby Aidan » Thu Feb 02, 12 12:26 am

whatever that means..
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Postby James » Thu Feb 02, 12 7:20 am

Don't play the videogame Starcraft 2 without wearing a piece of clothing over your torso (e.g., a top) in the season of Winter.
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