Colors/colours of interface + English/American English

[Bob]

I think the quoting system is messed up.

[clyzm]

I agree with Fatman. I have something to add as well; in opinion, one may be better than the other, but in real fact, we're the same, we just prefer different comic styles & ideas.

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But for the hell of it, I'll butcher your post just as you've butchered mine.

And you know nothing about the UK, but it's OK for you to comment? Pfft, please.

This would imply I've:

#- Never been there.
#- I do not know anything about UK; it's a new country to me and I haven't heard of it.

Both are wrong, I've been to London actually, and I research a lot on Wikipedia, so therefore you're wrong. :]

And please, where did anyone say "UK IS TEH BETTERS!"

*sighs* Have you been paying any attention at all?

were just more clued up on life, wittier, better humour, everything.

This is a simple debate about the fact that American English is not correct, and that the UK has better comedy.

Seriously.

You're just being stupid now, your hilariousness...ness died out. It's not a fact, its an opinion. Why are you even mentioning the word "debate", it means to disagree opinions, and saying that "UK comedy > US comedy, American English is incorrect" is not a fact, but moreover you want it to be one.

You are making this a UK vs US topic.

Wherever there is an anti-US post, there should be an anti-UK post.
-Dez's law.

I took it to far?

It takes two to tango, [sarcasm]and we still have 3 more steps left.[/sarcasm]

Yes you did.
I posted the little text/highlighted the American english spelling correct just to be satirical/comical, but you took it too far by saying it's stupid/incorrect or bastardized.

Lol. Monty Python doesn't make sense so it must suck... That's like saying "I don't understand how planes fly, so they don't".

Nope. Read the latter of the sentence, not the first thing in it that you disagree with.

And there in lies the problem,

It's my taste of comedy, and you don't like it because I have a different taste than you?

We're disagreeing with you, and because we aren't from the US, that means our hidden agenda is to attack the US at every corner.

You are taking this the wrong way.
I'm not anti-UK, I just hate it when people, usually Australians or English, tell me that they are better than us in every way. And if you want to reask the same question, look above for referrence.

Lol @ rage.

Sadly, no. I'm not pissed, just tired.

No, you would be wrong. This topic exists to answer the simple question; Which is correct, or if both are correct, which is more correct. The simple answer is, England.

I can agree with that, but American English is not 100% incorrect now is it. Imho,
^^^ notice IMHO, in my honest opinion*
American English is more correct than English ... english.

The complex answer is that due to the fact America was founded by the United Kingdom and it's language is a direct re-write of the English language, England is more correct.

It was founded by it, and we seceded from it's empire. Therefore, when we secede, that does not fucking mean we have to do everything the way you do.

You simply can not win this argument, and I think you realise that. Hence why this topic has a whole lot of political bullshit to try and fudge the fact.

"If at first you don't seem to make people realize, try, try, try again."

Saying something like "I'm tired with you guys, your fucking idiots" blah blah makes me feel foolish, therefore I would argue with the whole United Kingdom if it took me that much to get my opinion out. I'd argue every day for the rest of my life. You know why?

Because I'm dedicated.

Uhh... right.

Besides you, who is using large stereotyping?

UHHH I DUNNO MAYBE NOBODY lol.

Seriously though:

- British comedy is FAR better than American comedy. All american comedy is the same

I agree with American stereotyping though.. coz its true. I've been to America twice and all I saw was drunken hobos wandering in the road, really really HUGE people, MaccyD's on every bloody street, girl after girl goin "Like, OMG!!" and a zillion all-you-can-eat places.

Both quotes from Choco.

No one but you brought the subject of US > <any other/> into this topic. You have assumed incorrectly that it is on everyone's mind. And generally, you are being paranoid, lol.

Nope.

I blame Lazer, he started the whole "we're superior to you".

You're assuming incorrectly what I'm doing. Perhaps your so busy with the fact that you want to look smart, you are forgetful of what people are actually saying in their posts.

And you're doing it again. You are implying that the people that have already posted are saying UK comedy > US comedy simply because they don't like the US.

Can't argue with that, I did that yes, but now I changed my opinion. I think generally US is not hated anymore; more like they are being treated as inferior.

Remember: imho

Do you know what I base my choice off? It is quite simple, actually. "If I had to watch two weeks non-stop of a countries comedy, which would I choose?". The implication there is that we're talking about a wide variety, not just a few good re-runs of shows that were made decades ago.

When it comes down to it, I couldn't sit through a week of non-stop US comedy and would gladly give up M*A*S*H and Hogan's Hero's. And that is what makes me say UK comedy> US comedy. Pretty simple eh?

That analogy deals in absolutes.

"If I don't like US comedy, I won't watch it because UK comedy is better."

Seriously, you need to chill, read, and think.

How queer. You need to do that yourself.

Wether or not the Stereotype is true is irrelevant, you are conducting your self in a manner that matches that stereotype.

So I'm being a racist, fat, hobo redneck with a giant shotgun and totally ignorant?

No, I'm not matching the stereotype, you're just thinking that I am.

[stereotype] = me
[stereotype] = opinion
[opinion/stereotype] = me
factual stereotype =! me

What that basically says is, a stereotype is an opinion based on experiences (I'm sure you remember that word, right?). If I were to follow that opinion, it would be an opinion that is not as important as actual facts: moreover a prediction of what I do & what I'm going to keep doing to. You think that I am matching your said opinion; therefore I am matching what you think of me. Is everybody's opinion the same? Nope. There could be mutual opinions, but they are not facts; and if they were, they would be considered an actual, thick, living data that I am indeed a perfect archetype of a stereotype that you have made.

Try to use science or philosophy, read the above paragraph slowly and come up with a factual, not opinion-based solution.

You have basically implied that everyone here is lying to further their anti-American feelings. [sarcasm]Forgive me for my arrogance, but[/sarcasm] I think that's bullshit and you should stop smoking what ever it is you're smoking. We're talking about comedy and language and you're bringing in the fact that everyone hates the US.

Read above. (3-4 paragraphs above)

Just, Lol.

I don't actually see any difference in either of those two statements.

Typical.

You have jumped the gun again and have read far too much into the comment. Sure, a hell of a lot of comedy coming out of the US is utter shit that should be axed before it's ever put on, and the UK has some of that too. (Although I do admit, none spring to mind....)

... again? You started this! Your being biased, you're not really focusing on US comedy, only sitcoms & stupid shows! Watch standup sometime! I can tell alone "US has a lot of shitshows, and the UK has as well (but none come to mind" that you are not paying any attention to US shows and are more likely based on UK shows.

The lack of them giving due credit does not mean there is no due credit.

IIRC, Chococat use to be a big friends and Malcom in the middle fan. (Operative word; use, current status unknown.)

I'm very sure if you ask Lazer, he can give you a US comedy he likes/doesn't mind.

And I've already given you two.

You want it to be biased.

....

So you think I'm pro-US and prefer US shows only?

I like two or three UK comedy shows.

Red Dwarf.
Monty Python: Holy Grail.
Hollow Men.

Ever watch MadTV? It's something along the lines of Monty Python (series), except with more US jokes.

In light of this, I have gone over my post and added sarcasm tags to aid you. You can feel free to reply to or ignore the area's surrounded by the [sarcasm] tags. I was actually surprised by the lack of tags placed, as I usually take a healthy dose of sarcasm into any debate with you. Laughing

I can't say I'm in the mood to laugh at that, I don't consider it funny.
emo cunt =P

UK comedy is not skin deep, it never has been.

The entire movie is a joke. I could go further into it, but explaining a joke to someone ruins it for ever... Suffice to say there are different levels at which it's funny. Try to think you're watching a Mel Brooks film, only more subtle and articulated.

Lol mosh.

I watched parts of it on YouTube, and I'll even admit some parts are funny.But the series does not make sense to me, tbh.

Lol @ nicks.

The debater group:

Laz.
Dez.
Stez.

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[Imperial]

Sorry but this is the most ridicoulous conversation ever.
You are fighting over speeling of words, big deal, one country spells it one way another spells it the other. Nobody is right or wrong imo.
Different countries adopt to different ways of spelling things.
Its not a life or death situation guys so don't worry.

On the topic of who has better comedy, I say neither. Different tastes AGAIN. Notice that word tastes. Different people have diffrent tastes.

And this is one thing that kinda pisses me off a bit, you are trying to make it look like England is superior to other nations, that's the view I am getting.

[clyzm]

Sorry but this is the most ridicoulous conversation ever.
You are fighting over speeling of words, big deal, one country spells it one way another spells it the other. Nobody is right or wrong imo.
Different countries adopt to different ways of spelling things.
Its not a life or death situation guys so don't worry.

On the topic of who has better comedy, I say neither. Different tastes AGAIN. Notice that word tastes. Different people have diffrent tastes.

And this is one thing that kinda pisses me off a bit, you are trying to make it look like England is superior to others, that's the view I am getting.

Yes, it is kind of pointless, which is why we have to explain it paragraph by paragraph to people like Stevie.

See how easy it is to join the argument? I'm not trying to make it look inferior, you can blame our friend Laz for that.

"It's very easy to start a fire, but it takes more effort to put it out."

In this case, Stevie causing the fire, me putting it out, Stevie causing it again, this time he gets Lazer & Choco to join him, and I keep putting it out. I start a fire, people put it out, it reverses, it keeps reversing until somebody A) Locks the topic or B) somebody agrees and actually has the balls to admit that they are wrong. I apologize most of the time because I know I'm being an asshole, but I do NOT apologize when I want to express my opinion and somebody says it is wrong.

[Chococat]

Stevie causing it again, this time he gets Lazer & Choco to join him,

Actually I joined of my own free will..

[Imperial]

It should be locked becuase its going nowhere and the same points are being repeated.

Also, everyone has an opinion and should never be forced to see something like "Our way is better an you are completely wrong..."

Also I look at england and usa the same. I do not idol either one and I never shall. I like both comedies, english and american.
However i despise a country and its nation that is so far up their arse that they think everything about it is great.

[Chococat]

However i despise a country and its nation that is so far up their arse that they think everything about it is great.

Damn those French!

[clyzm]

Stevie causing it again, this time he gets Lazer & Choco to join him,

Actually I joined of my own free will..

I never said he made you/persuaded you to join, only I've got 3 people now to debate against, and Stevie's got a few friends to help him.

However i despise a country and its nation that is so far up their arse that they think everything about it is great.

Both England & US are guilty of that.

This topic shouldn't be locked, it's a debate, not a flamewar. If ol' Steve still doesn't get what I'm saying and he continues, I'll continue as well. Either way, I'm not giving up, stubborn or not.

[Imperial]

Ah, why couldn't you jsut be like us the irish, angels [/jk]

But seriously, the least the Americans can do is adopt your language a bit, after all, U.S.A didn't neccesarily ask to speak english, you just kinda forced it on them when you invaded them

Kinda like us.

"The americans only had the english invading them for an afternoon and what do they do, they blow up half the world and we had them here for 800 years. what do we do? We go over there and work there and build all their buildings for them. That'll teach them, we'll build half their country for them and show what hard workers we really are."

Somewhere along those lines.
Tommy Tiernan what a guy.

[clyzm]

That's right.

US fighting UK.
Result:

Native americans caught in the middle. They side with the UK because US people took their lands, but US people are really UK people, so UK is fighting UK?

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[Imperial]

Hey, don't forget the frenchies, they were involved.
And the spanish, hmm, bit of portugal too.

[clyzm]

At this time, the British Empire was at it's height. The largest empire in teh world :].

[Spiderbot01]

Neither country is better on the whole.

~Fin~

Except the UK is better than the US.

[clyzm]

Neither country is better on the whole.

~Fin~

Except the UK is better than the US.

Finland > all.

[MainMan]

This argument is really, really, sad.

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Finland > all.

Swedenland owns you all!

[Lazer]

what am I doing posting in here again after I said I’d had enough…..

Just a few points....

1) dez got totally put in his place by darknight, so then he turned his attentions to me, laying all the blame over this argument at my door (thus trying to deflect all the agro away from him, but it aint gonna work because people can read every post in here )

2) he wanted me to bite back again because dezzie likes nothing better than to argue, the more people to argue with the better in his eyes.

3)

I can agree with that, but American English is not 100% incorrect now is it. Imho,
^^^ notice IMHO, in my honest opinion*
American English is more correct than English ... english.

Just…….lol. how the fuck can it be more correct. I despair sometimes….

4)

I blame Lazer, he started the whole "we're superior to you".

we are though, go on, admit it.

5)

I think generally US is not hated anymore; more like they are being treated as inferior.

bit of both really. i think most people generally agree that the US is hated, and also inferior.

6)

Stevie causing it again, this time he gets Lazer & Choco to join him

ever entertained the thought me and choco got involved because we had the same opinion as stevie, and in fact the majority. and wanted to express our opinion?
not really, it was the big bad conspiracy against the US. we all sent pm's to each other saying lets disguise this argument over the spelling of colour and comedy shows, for an attack on everything that is america.

i'd just like to finish......

UK comedy is better than US comedy.

[Kaiden]

I stopped caring about this topic from about page 3 ( now on page 5 ) as there was about 2 posts on each page consisting of about 20 quotes.. I think this topic has gone on for long enough now as people are just posting random stuff..

Swedenland owns you all!

[Imperial]

But it does in all fairness. A mans paradise.
Swede girls FTW

[Krieg]

How do you survive this topic derek rofl , its 3 heavy debaters vs you lol...... US RULES LAWL .Blair is finally going to fuck off , but on which date ... thats his little surprise lol

[Allan]

Oddly, Tony Blair is doing a similar thing. Prehaps they're one and the same person!

[clyzm]

It's called dedication. I refuse to back down on something I think is totally righteous.

1) dez got totally put in his place by darknight,

No I didn't. If I did, I wouldn't argue with him anymore, I'd be agreeing with him, and it seems to me we're equal on this debate, regardless of how hypocritical you think my messages are..

so then he turned his attentions to me, laying all the blame over this argument at my door

Assumptions are dangerous, and risky. That assumption right there is wrong, because I did not lay the blame on you, moreover on everyone I'm debating against:

Stevie for starting this whole thing & not being fairly biased on both sides of the argument

You for saying UK is superior to US, jokingly or not.

Chococat for thinking all stereotypes of US are true, and US comedy is shit (based as a fact in her eyes).

(thus trying to deflect all the agro away from him, but it aint gonna work because people can read every post in here Smile )

Dangerous.
Assumptions.

he wanted me to bite back again because dezzie likes nothing better than to argue, the more people to argue with the better in his eyes.

Not really, but I do like to defend my point of view.

Just…….lol. how the fuck can it be more correct. I despair sometimes….

Imho, we made it more correct by fixing grammar issues & pronounciation issues.

we are though, go on, admit it.

That would explain why Blair is Bush's bitch.

bit of both really. i think most people generally agree that the US is hated, and also inferior.

Radical fundamentalists hate the US.
Anti-americans think the US is inferior.

Does that clear things up for you now?

ever entertained the thought me and choco got involved because we had the same opinion as stevie, and in fact the majority. and wanted to express our opinion?

Yes I did.
Please pay attention to my posts, I know to your eyes that they are bs and all that, but I've explained that issue to Stevie above.

ot really, it was the big bad conspiracy against the US. we all sent pm's to each other saying lets disguise this argument over the spelling of colour and comedy shows, for an attack on everything that is america.

See: dangerous assumptions.

i'd just like to finish......

UK comedy is better than US comedy.

That's your opinion. I disagree with it. US comedy is better than UK comedy.

ts 3 heavy debaters vs you lol

Unlike previous debates which I gave up on, this one I'm going to hold out until:

A) We come to a compromise
B) It gets locked and deleted.
C) We all die somehow.

[Marouku]

Antarctica is better.

[Kaiden]

Iv'e forgotten whos supporting Us and whos supporting England, I would look at your location in your profile but half of you seem to have stuff like "in front of my comp =]"

Antarctica is better.

Lol

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I stopped caring about this topic from about page 3 ( now on page 5 ) as there was about 2 posts on each page consisting of about 20 quotes.. I think this topic has gone on for long enough now as people are just posting random stuff..

Swedenland owns you all!

Derekov, this isn't a random comment is it? lmao

[clyzm]

I stopped caring about this topic from about page 3 ( now on page 5 ) as there was about 2 posts on each page consisting of about 20 quotes.. I think this topic has gone on for long enough now as people are just posting random stuff..

Swedenland owns you all!

Derekov, this isn't a random comment is it? lmao

It relates to "which country is better" blah blah.
So it's not .

[Lazer]

Im finished arguing with you Derek, your last post satisfies me to the point im not pissed off with anything you said so......take it away stevie and dezzie.

i feel Sweden has the highest 'fit women to population' ratio than all others. (oh noes, ive left myself open to another debate )

[Krieg]

they are ugly ... lol , nah

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Have either of you ever been?

[James]

Sweden just reminds me of Coldblooded.