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Postby Krieg » Fri Sep 08, 06 2:34 pm

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Postby DarkKnight » Fri Sep 08, 06 5:35 pm

I have a slight problem.

I want to reply to Dez, but last time I did a post of that size, phpbb died. :(
What is the maximum execution time on this server?
(Filled in a 100 question thing for religion, only 40 odd came out, and it spat out 'execution taking too long' errors...)

Two things though;

I r famous now. :]
(Cheers mosh!)

We just recently bought the first of the Carry On's box set. They are UK movies made on shoe string budget in a few weeks. There are 28 of them in all, although 1, the most recent, can be forgotten quite easily. (Made decades after the originals and without Sid James. Death will do that.)

Of all of them, my favourite is Carry On Doctor. It's a right royal romp through classic UK humour, and well worth a look. My mum doesn't fancy Monty Python movies much(as in 'watch once in a blue moon'), but she does love the Carry On's, so perhaps it will make more sense for you.

Would you like me to torrent/host it for you Dez?
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Fri Sep 08, 06 5:47 pm

That comment of yours just made me fucking cry, it needed to be remembered lol

How come no one has mentioned Bottom? That is one of the best programs ever created! :evil:
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Postby Snakey » Fri Sep 08, 06 7:01 pm

Antechrist wrote:That comment of yours just made me fucking cry, it needed to be remembered lol

How come no one has mentioned Bottom? That is one of the best programs ever created! :evil:


Bottom fucking rocks.
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Postby clyzm » Fri Sep 08, 06 9:24 pm

DarkKnight wrote:I have a slight problem.

I want to reply to Dez, but last time I did a post of that size, phpbb died. :(
What is the maximum execution time on this server?
(Filled in a 100 question thing for religion, only 40 odd came out, and it spat out 'execution taking too long' errors...)

Two things though;

I r famous now. :]
(Cheers mosh!)

We just recently bought the first of the Carry On's box set. They are UK movies made on shoe string budget in a few weeks. There are 28 of them in all, although 1, the most recent, can be forgotten quite easily. (Made decades after the originals and without Sid James. Death will do that.)

Of all of them, my favourite is Carry On Doctor. It's a right royal romp through classic UK humour, and well worth a look. My mum doesn't fancy Monty Python movies much(as in 'watch once in a blue moon'), but she does love the Carry On's, so perhaps it will make more sense for you.

Would you like me to torrent/host it for you Dez?


I'd rather have it you repost/save your reply, paste it on a text document so I can further butcher it.

Btw; just for a fun fact;

Both American English and English are incorrect.
German is more correct, because English is a germanic language. Based on the Huns who moved to England and made a language there.

So, Stez, Dez, and Laz are incorrect.

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Postby DarkKnight » Fri Sep 08, 06 10:33 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:
DarkKnight wrote:I have a slight problem.

I want to reply to Dez, but last time I did a post of that size, phpbb died. :(
What is the maximum execution time on this server?
(Filled in a 100 question thing for religion, only 40 odd came out, and it spat out 'execution taking too long' errors...)

Two things though;

I r famous now. :]
(Cheers mosh!)

We just recently bought the first of the Carry On's box set. They are UK movies made on shoe string budget in a few weeks. There are 28 of them in all, although 1, the most recent, can be forgotten quite easily. (Made decades after the originals and without Sid James. Death will do that.)

Of all of them, my favourite is Carry On Doctor. It's a right royal romp through classic UK humour, and well worth a look. My mum doesn't fancy Monty Python movies much(as in 'watch once in a blue moon'), but she does love the Carry On's, so perhaps it will make more sense for you.

Would you like me to torrent/host it for you Dez?


I'd rather have it you repost/save your reply, paste it on a text document so I can further butcher it.

Btw; just for a fun fact;

Both American English and English are incorrect.
German is more correct, because English is a germanic language. Based on the Huns who moved to England and made a language there.

So, Stez, Dez, and Laz are incorrect.

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You would be correct, if only it was claiming it is Germanic, which it isn't.
(American is claiming to be English, and so it is incorrect.)

I don't want to have to split the post over multiple posts though. :(

And you didn't answer my question. Did you want it hosted or would you rather continue this without seeing it? Tell me so I can get it ripped and hosted. (Provided you could survive downloading at 50KB/s)
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Postby clyzm » Fri Sep 08, 06 10:38 pm

I cba to download it.
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Postby Bob » Sat Sep 09, 06 1:03 am

Antechrist wrote:How come no one has mentioned Bottom? That is one of the best programs ever created! :evil:


Bottom was pretty badass.

What about the Young Ones? I was rather fond of that show.
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Sat Sep 09, 06 1:30 am

Never saw it, but I used to watch Bottom all the time when I was young, then saw it on TV recently and was in fucking stitches all the way through :lol: "EDDY YOU BASTARD!"
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Postby Lazer » Sat Sep 09, 06 12:59 pm

I quite liked Ali G and his various characters.

Borat is bringing a film out. its called...

Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.

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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Sat Sep 09, 06 1:12 pm

" :) My wife... she is dead" LMAO Borat is fucking funny :D
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Postby Krieg » Sat Sep 09, 06 1:13 pm

Ali G can be funny sometimes , but if he plays Borat he is a total fucking moron.He spoiled the MTV/EMA
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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Sat Sep 09, 06 1:19 pm

Umm he's meant to be annoying as Borat, that's why it's immensly funny. Like when he is at dinner and says "I had good shit :) " LMAO
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Postby clyzm » Sat Sep 09, 06 5:23 pm

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Postby DarkKnight » Sun Sep 10, 06 12:09 am

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:I agree with Fatman. I have something to add as well; in opinion, one may be better than the other, but in real fact, we're the same, we just prefer different comic styles & ideas.

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The comedy is all opinions.

But still, my opinion is the right one. <-- That is taking the piss.

Dez wrote:
And you know nothing about the UK, but it's OK for you to comment? Pfft, please.


This would imply I've:

#- Never been there.
#- I do not know anything about UK; it's a new country to me and I haven't heard of it.

Both are wrong, I've been to London actually, and I research a lot on Wikipedia, so therefore you're wrong. :]


And yet, to Choco - who has been to America - you answered;

You wrote:Seriously, have you been to every place in America? If that's true and that's what you saw, then you are right.


Change America to Britain.

Just also on Choco's post, you said the stereotype isn't true, which again she didn't say it was true. The fact of the matter is the world has a stereotypical view on everything. And we call it stereotypical because we know it isn't the absolute truth. If we wanted to say it is 100% correct, it wouldn't be a stereotype, would it?

The very definition of stereotype also supports this; 'A conventional, oversimplified, or expected opinion or idea that can be transferred to an image, object or person.'

Dez wrote:
And please, where did anyone say "UK IS TEH BETTERS!"


*sighs* Have you been paying any attention at all?

Lez wrote:were just more clued up on life, wittier, better humour, everything.


This is a simple debate about the fact that American English is not correct, and that the UK has better comedy.


Seriously.

You're just being stupid now, your hilariousness...ness died out. It's not a fact, its an opinion. Why are you even mentioning the word "debate", it means to disagree opinions, and saying that "UK comedy > US comedy, American English is incorrect" is not a fact, but moreover you want it to be one.


Both those comments were taking the piss...

And if I cast my mind back, you tried to correct and English man typing an English word. Seeing as how English existed before America, does that situation not strike you as queer?

It does strike me as queer, it also strikes me as wrong. And it is.
(Not opinion.)

Also, a debate is used to foster both opinions and facts. An example would be a debate over the impacts of fishing in a protected area. I can provide proof and opinion to formulate a fact - that fishing is bad.
(And in that case, I would be right. You could have your opinions, but you would be wrong. This would be due to the proof tabled during the debate.)

*Was on the debate team*

Dez wrote:
You are making this a UK vs US topic.


Wherever there is an anti-US post, there should be an anti-UK post.
-Dez's law.


I thought it was just opinions? ;)

Dez wrote:
I took it to far?

It takes two to tango, [sarcasm]and we still have 3 more steps left.[/sarcasm]


Yes you did.
I posted the little text/highlighted the American english spelling correct just to be satirical/comical, but you took it too far by saying it's stupid/incorrect or bastardized.


And yet if Dale posted that...? The point being you took my attacks in an aggressive manner because they came from me. My first series of posts where actually quite light hearted, and reading back over them know, I don't actually see why it continued... :-k

The whole American 'English' debate reminds me of someone downloading code, changing a few well documented varables, changing the author tag, and saying "I R LEET CODER I HAX U!". No, you used someone else's work.

Dez wrote:
Lol. Monty Python doesn't make sense so it must suck... That's like saying "I don't understand how planes fly, so they don't".


Nope. Read the latter of the sentence, not the first thing in it that you disagree with.


You wrote:Red Dwarf aside, I am yet to see a single new British comedy that actually makes sense and has good jokes.


If you don't understand the jokes - how can you be in any position to declare them good or bad?

Dez wrote:
And there in lies the problem,


It's my taste of comedy, and you don't like it because I have a different taste than you?


Not at all. Rather, I was pointing at the fundamental difference in comedy approaches. The 'Jackarse' approach and the innuendo approach.

The latter being more intellectual stimulating then the prior.

Dez wrote:
We're disagreeing with you, and because we aren't from the US, that means our hidden agenda is to attack the US at every corner.


You are taking this the wrong way.
I'm not anti-UK, I just hate it when people, usually Australians or English, tell me that they are better than us in every way. And if you want to reask the same question, look above for referrence.


I think there are a lot of insecurities when it comes to US people. They tend to go off the handle a lot easier when you insult their country. :-k

Dez wrote:
Lol @ rage.


Sadly, no. I'm not pissed, just tired.


Best advice I could give you there is to read this. You'll be asleep before you know it.

Dez wrote:
No, you would be wrong. This topic exists to answer the simple question; Which is correct, or if both are correct, which is more correct. The simple answer is, England.


I can agree with that, but American English is not 100% incorrect now is it. Imho,
^^^ notice IMHO, in my honest opinion*
American English is more correct than English ... english.


You can have your opinion, but you would be wrong, especially in the case of trying to correct Snakey's spelling. ;)

Dez wrote:
The complex answer is that due to the fact America was founded by the United Kingdom and it's language is a direct re-write of the English language, England is more correct.


It was founded by it, and we seceded from it's empire. Therefore, when we secede, that does not fucking mean we have to do everything the way you do.


No, you don't.

But respect where respect is due. You are using the English Language (albeit bastardised[ignore this]), You have that land because the UK took it, You are using the UK measurement system (albeit very old and out-dated now), You had a good military due to the UK(a lot of civil war fighters were ex-UK army), You were allowed to continue as a sovereign nation. and you have a ally in Europe.

Dez wrote:
You simply can not win this argument, and I think you realise that. Hence why this topic has a whole lot of political bullshit to try and fudge the fact.


"If at first you don't seem to make people realize, try, try, try again."

Saying something like "I'm tired with you guys, your fucking idiots" blah blah makes me feel foolish, therefore I would argue with the whole United Kingdom if it took me that much to get my opinion out. I'd argue every day for the rest of my life. You know why?

Because I'm dedicated.


I'm just stubborn.

Example: I had a rip roaring argument with my boss at the time who tried to tell me that Windows > Linux & that Dual core processors only worked in Linux, and that Windows couldn't use them. It ended with my saying "I'm a opinionated bastard, but I'm bloody right!". ;)

Seriously though, have we established the fact that an American is in no place to correct an English mans correct spelling?

Dez wrote:
Uhh... right.

Besides you, who is using large stereotyping?


UHHH I DUNNO MAYBE NOBODY lol.

Seriously though:

- British comedy is FAR better than American comedy. All american comedy is the same


I agree with American stereotyping though.. coz its true. I've been to America twice and all I saw was drunken hobos wandering in the road, really really HUGE people, MaccyD's on every bloody street, girl after girl goin "Like, OMG!!" and a zillion all-you-can-eat places.


Both quotes from Choco.


Considering Hollywood pushes 90% of it's products world wide now, the first statement could be said with quite some truth. Again, it is her opinion is it not?

[Second one referred to further up.]

Dez wrote:
No one but you brought the subject of US > <any other/> into this topic. You have assumed incorrectly that it is on everyone's mind. And generally, you are being paranoid, lol.


Nope.

I blame Lazer, he started the whole "we're superior to you".

You're assuming incorrectly what I'm doing. Perhaps your so busy with the fact that you want to look smart, you are forgetful of what people are actually saying in their posts.


You wrote:Lmao @ all the brits attacking me.

(Lazer had only responded with tongue in cheek thus far, and only once.)

You wrote:
James wrote:lol @ Americanised English tbh.
lol @ fancy fairy accents of England.

(Right after the above one.)

Lazer wrote:yep. were better looking, way cooler, more diverse and.......deep down......we all secretly know that americans wish they were english.

and, as you can see from my post which you chose to ignore (as it refutes your argument), we dont all talk like fairies at all. i'd hazard a guess at less than 1% of our population talking like 'fairies' as you put it.


First paragraph = taking the piss.
Second paragraph = Bring your attention to the post you skipped.

You wrote:Better looking?

Yeah, british dentistry REALLY pwns American dentistry :roll:

Cooler?

Most actors and movies you defy as "cool" probably came from Hollywood, California. And California seems to be located in that place with the DUH-DUH-DUH DUMB AMERICANS LOZL.

Americans want to be English?

No thanks, we don't want to be silly, fairy nannies xD.

(Why do all yanks think everyone thinks yanks are from California?)

Lazer wrote:
[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Better looking?

Yeah, british dentistry REALLY pwns American dentistry :roll: .


How did i know that was coming? its the same (and only) argument you use every single time american vs english gets brought up.

Cooler?

Most actors and movies you defy as "cool" probably came from Hollywood, California. And California seems to be located in that place with the DUH-DUH-DUH DUMB AMERICANS LOZL.


lol, whats actors and movies got to do with being cool? im on about the public, the nobodies, the neighbours etc. were just more clued up on life, wittier, better humour, everything.

Americans want to be English?

No thanks, we don't want to be silly, fairy nannies xD.


yes you do, sooner you accept it the better. :wink:


About the only attacking bit I see the is the first bit, which is actually true.

Further along we get to this gem:

You wrote:Everybody has a different taste in comedy, I prefer US comedy over UK comedy, Lazer here prefers UK comedy over US comedy simply because he is pro-UK and also because he thinks its funny because UK is where he came from, and he hasn't seen much US comedy as a US resident like me.


That is _THE_ first aggressive comment on UK vs US.

Where am I trying to look smart? >.>

Btw, I should have noticed the quote above that last one I quoted. I watch TV at certain times:
1) Spicks and Specs & Rockwiz(Rock Quiz). Both are Australian. They are quiz shows at their heart, but with a healthy dose of Aussie humour and innuendo.
2) Interesting Documentaries.
3) V8 racing.
4) DVD's.

I simply don't watch TV as much as most any more. Two reasons: I have study and work. And because of them I spend my spare time playing instead of watching TV, as there are few shows with enough pulling power to get me down stairs.
(Minus those listed.)

Dez wrote:
And you're doing it again. You are implying that the people that have already posted are saying UK comedy > US comedy simply because they don't like the US.


Can't argue with that, I did that yes, but now I changed my opinion. I think generally US is not hated anymore; more like they are being treated as inferior.

Remember: imho


Which still leaves us in exactly the same place...

Dez wrote:
Do you know what I base my choice off? It is quite simple, actually. "If I had to watch two weeks non-stop of a countries comedy, which would I choose?". The implication there is that we're talking about a wide variety, not just a few good re-runs of shows that were made decades ago.

When it comes down to it, I couldn't sit through a week of non-stop US comedy and would gladly give up M*A*S*H and Hogan's Hero's. And that is what makes me say UK comedy> US comedy. Pretty simple eh?


That analogy deals in absolutes.

"If I don't like US comedy, I won't watch it because UK comedy is better."


Not at all.

The whole situation is hypothetical, and is meant to force an opinion. And by that, I mean you don't get 'depends'. I do watch American comedy, but like I have already said, they are decades old.

Dez wrote:
Seriously, you need to chill, read, and think.


How queer. You need to do that yourself.


I've been pretty chilled with all my posts. =]

Dez wrote:
Wether or not the Stereotype is true is irrelevant, you are conducting your self in a manner that matches that stereotype.


So I'm being a racist, fat, hobo redneck with a giant shotgun and totally ignorant?

No, I'm not matching the stereotype, you're just thinking that I am.

[stereotype] = me
[stereotype] = opinion
[opinion/stereotype] = me
factual stereotype =! me


Some how, an American commenting about the stereotype the world holds about Americans just doesn't quite work. And you are way off with your stereotype.
[Carry on]

Dez wrote:What that basically says is, a stereotype is an opinion based on experiences (I'm sure you remember that word, right?). If I were to follow that opinion, it would be an opinion that is not as important as actual facts: moreover a prediction of what I do & what I'm going to keep doing to. You think that I am matching your said opinion; therefore I am matching what you think of me. Is everybody's opinion the same? Nope. There could be mutual opinions, but they are not facts; and if they were, they would be considered an actual, thick, living data that I am indeed a perfect archetype of a stereotype that you have made.

Try to use science or philosophy, read the above paragraph slowly and come up with a factual, not opinion-based solution.


Ok, a bit of a simplistic look of a Stereotype, but ok, for arguments sake I'll for with it.

I have a stereotype. It's about a car. Jump in my car. I want to take you home. It's too far to walk on your own.

On our way home, we pass through the stereotypically slow area's of London. The general stereotype held of this area is that you will be bogged down in traffic for hours and be late for any thing important. Strangely, as we drive through, the roads are clear.

Does this mean the stereotype is utter bullshit? It's not that simple. You see, a stereotype is based on repetitive experiences. You're home is pretty far away, so let's keep driving in this stereotypically slow area.

Shock! 2 hours later, we are bogged in traffic. In 2 hours, we moved 3Ks.

This shows a very important part of the stereotype building process - repeat exposure. We decide it's such a nice area, we set up camp. After some sweet sweet lovin', we wake up and do it all over again. The roads are clear for most of our trip, but then, Shock! They get busy for 3 hours and we're stuck again.

The same is true for an American. If you see a ill mannered American walking around, and you haven't before, you ignore it and discount it as a one off. If it happens again, you still discount it. This goes on for a certain amount of time until you have experienced enough that you hold the view that American's are ill mannered. And while you know it won't be correct 100% of the time - it will still be correct.

When you behave in a manner that matches the 'stereotypical American', you re-enforce any negative stereotype that the world already has, and thus it is never abolished. Traditionally, stereotypes were broken with generations. You would slowly 'breed out the stereotype' from the people who held them. Kids don't hold stereotypes until they start going to school.

The next question will be 'how was the stereotype formed?', and while I'm in no position to answer that, I can give you another example.

The Wogmobile!

Now it's true, many other people did buy Valiant Chargers, but you almost always saw a wog (Italian) behind the wheel, with fluffy dice on the rear view window, chest hair hanging out, and crap music playing. So, the stereotypical 'wog' was born.

You can be a Italian, and never appear as a wog, just as you can be an American, and never appear as a stereotypical American. But if a Italian puts fluffy dice on their review window - they are a wog. The same stands for you, only with adjusted parameters, obviously.

Dez wrote:
Just, Lol.

I don't actually see any difference in either of those two statements.


Typical.


Sorry mate. =(

Dez wrote:
You have jumped the gun again and have read far too much into the comment. Sure, a hell of a lot of comedy coming out of the US is utter shit that should be axed before it's ever put on, and the UK has some of that too. (Although I do admit, none spring to mind....)


... again? You started this! Your being biased, you're not really focusing on US comedy, only sitcoms & stupid shows! Watch standup sometime! I can tell alone "US has a lot of shitshows, and the UK has as well (but none come to mind" that you are not paying any attention to US shows and are more likely based on UK shows.


I have watched stand-up. We get Americans coming to Aussieland for the Melbourne Comedy Festival every year. I can safely say that they have nothing on the Irish man that typically shows up.

The only shit show from the UK that leaps into my mind with clarity is 'The Bill', but that isn't comedy... Feel free to suggest names.

Dez wrote:
The lack of them giving due credit does not mean there is no due credit.

IIRC, Chococat use to be a big friends and Malcom in the middle fan. (Operative word; use, current status unknown.)

I'm very sure if you ask Lazer, he can give you a US comedy he likes/doesn't mind.

And I've already given you two.

You want it to be biased.


....

So you think I'm pro-US and prefer US shows only?

I like two or three UK comedy shows.

Red Dwarf.
Monty Python: Holy Grail.
Hollow Men.

Ever watch MadTV? It's something along the lines of Monty Python (series), except with more US jokes.


The only thing they have in common is the fact they are 'skit shows'.

And as you might have guessed, I've seen MadTV, and it doesn't impress me. It tends to telegraph it's jokes far too much, there is no subtle nature, and the actors could be better/less annoying.

Dez wrote:
In light of this, I have gone over my post and added sarcasm tags to aid you. You can feel free to reply to or ignore the area's surrounded by the [sarcasm] tags. I was actually surprised by the lack of tags placed, as I usually take a healthy dose of sarcasm into any debate with you. Laughing


I can't say I'm in the mood to laugh at that, I don't consider it funny.
emo cunt =P


I haven't bothered this time, cbf.
you said you liked emo's =O

Dez wrote:
UK comedy is not skin deep, it never has been.

The entire movie is a joke. I could go further into it, but explaining a joke to someone ruins it for ever... Suffice to say there are different levels at which it's funny. Try to think you're watching a Mel Brooks film, only more subtle and articulated.

Lol mosh.


I watched parts of it on YouTube, and I'll even admit some parts are funny.But the series does not make sense to me, tbh.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnNWoq2DE9c

What do yee think of that?

Dez wrote:Lol @ nicks.

The debater group:

Laz.
Dez.
Stez.

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Postby clyzm » Sun Sep 10, 06 1:20 am

Great.... let's begin with the Butchering!

The comedy is all opinions.

But still, my opinion is the right one. <-- That is taking the piss.


You seem to repeat yourself on "that is taking the piss". Just so you know, identifying a negative comment as "taking the piss" does not excuse it from ignorance or this debate.

And yet, to Choco - who has been to America - you answered;


Read what you said;

You implied that I know nothing about the UK. I replied that in fact I actually do, enough to base stereotypes but not to actually imply that the stereotypes are true.

Keep track of what you're saying.

Just also on Choco's post, you said the stereotype isn't true, which again she didn't say it was true. The fact of the matter is the world has a stereotypical view on everything. And we call it stereotypical because we know it isn't the absolute truth. If we wanted to say it is 100% correct, it wouldn't be a stereotype, would it?


She actually did say it was true, or she agreed with it;

I agree with American stereotyping though.. coz its true.


Seems like you should argue with her and not me ;)

And if I cast my mind back, you tried to correct and English man typing an English word. Seeing as how English existed before America, does that situation not strike you as queer?


I'll quote the ol' Stevemeister:

tongue-in-cheek


I realize the fact that the English made the language, that fact didn't fly right past me.

It does strike me as queer, it also strikes me as wrong. And it is.
(Not opinion.)


Let's try an example:

The first video game ever made: Space Invaders.
Now realize the fact that they made popular the whole "video gaming" scene. Some 10~20 years later, Mario came out. Mario uses the same techniques & style of Space Invaders, and is based on video gaming. HOWEVER Mario's gameplay was somewhat unique and adventurous.

Replace Space Invaders with English.
Replace Mario with American English.

Catch my drift?

Also, a debate is used to foster both opinions and facts. An example would be a debate over the impacts of fishing in a protected area. I can provide proof and opinion to formulate a fact - that fishing is bad.
(And in that case, I would be right. You could have your opinions, but you would be wrong. This would be due to the proof tabled during the debate.)


Nope - there'd be an equal side of this.

*Fishing is bad because it harms the ocean's ecosystem.
*Fishing is good because it provides a solid economy and food.

I thought it was just opinions?


Laws can be made of opinions as well, and aren't exactly 100% true.

And yet if Dale posted that...? The point being you took my attacks in an aggressive manner because they came from me.


Nope, I did not take them in an aggressive matter, and it did NOT matter where it came from. Insight:

*If I were to take them into an aggressive matter, I would be cursing right now instead of debating.
*Plus the fact that replying & disagreeing does not make it "agro".
*I would've done the same thing with Moshman, Tony Blair or even Steve Irwin, god rest his soul!

My first series of posts where actually quite light hearted, and reading back over them know, I don't actually see why it continued... Think


This whole debate to me is light hearted, I don't take things seriously, but I _WILL_ counterargue my opinions & beliefs.

The whole American 'English' debate reminds me of someone downloading code, changing a few well documented varables, changing the author tag, and saying "I R LEET CODER I HAX U!". No, you used someone else's work.


Where did we say we "made" the language? We changed it, yes, but we didn't make it! Do you see anyone *speaking* American? Nope. And, as previously stated, English did the same thing with German. ;)

f you don't understand the jokes - how can you be in any position to declare them good or bad?


You got the wrong quote - look back on what I said about Monty Python: "I don't get some of the jokes, and it has very bad ones as well" - something along the lines of that -.

Not at all. Rather, I was pointing at the fundamental difference in comedy approaches. The 'Jackarse' approach and the innuendo approach.

The latter being more intellectual stimulating then the prior.


Intellectually*.

It may be intellectual, but I prefer the so-called "Jackarse" approach to it; it's very comical, and very satirical (stand up).

I think there are a lot of insecurities when it comes to US people. They tend to go off the handle a lot easier when you insult their country. Think


Apply same theory to Australian people and crocodiles.

Best advice I could give you there is to read this. You'll be asleep before you know it.


This debate is doing just fine, thanks ;)

You can have your opinion, but you would be wrong, especially in the case of trying to correct Snakey's spelling.


Wrong? Opinions _cannot_ be wrong. Opinions are beliefs on the people: and although your technicalities can prove it wrong, when the person stops believing in their opinion, THEN it is wrong.

Like Christianity. Some people believe in it, believe in Jesus and God etc. Satanic cultures tell them they are wrong, but did a third of the world listen to them and stop being Christian? Nope. Therefore you theory is null.

But respect where respect is due. You are using the English Language (albeit bastardised[ignore this]), You have that land because the UK took it, You are using the UK measurement system (albeit very old and out-dated now), You had a good military due to the UK(a lot of civil war fighters were ex-UK army), You were allowed to continue as a sovereign nation. and you have a ally in Europe.


Nope;

The UK did not take this land. They took the land where they settled, and if you count the theory that "if you're born in America, you're american", then that means _americans_ discovered their own land (see: Louisiana Purchase, Pioneers). I would expect from typical Stevewort to say "you're still British" because nobody is 100% British.

I'm just stubborn.

Example: I had a rip roaring argument with my boss at the time who tried to tell me that Windows > Linux & that Dual core processors only worked in Linux, and that Windows couldn't use them. It ended with my saying "I'm a opinionated bastard, but I'm bloody right!". Wink

Seriously though, have we established the fact that an American is in no place to correct an English mans correct spelling?


Yes we have. But we should establish the fact that:

An English man cannot force/cannot tell Americans that their view of spelling English language is incorrect due to "omg I invented it, and your wrong!".

Considering Hollywood pushes 90% of it's products world wide now, the first statement could be said with quite some truth. Again, it is her opinion is it not?

[Second one referred to further up.]


Well I've talked to you about opinions, but in case you do not figure out my logic, I will use your own:

It is her opinion, but it would be wrong.

:].

(Lazer had only responded with tongue in cheek thus far, and only once.)


Sarcasm, bad joke, tongue-in-cheek or not, I still take it seriously.

First paragraph = taking the piss.
Second paragraph = Bring your attention to the post you skipped.


#see: first paragraph.

(Why do all yanks think everyone thinks yanks are from California?)


Yanks are from the northern (union) states. Rednecks are from the southern states. This is the stereotypical view of Americans.

About the only attacking bit I see the is the first bit, which is actually true.


I've only used it -once-, and I have different arguments as well.
Therefore it isn't true :].

That is _THE_ first aggressive comment on UK vs US.


1- It isn't aggressive.
2- It's an opinion based on my part.

Where am I trying to look smart? >.>


In almost every single rebuttal.

Which still leaves us in exactly the same place...


You mean the exact same place where you keep telling me what I should be doing, and me telling you that you are wrong? Or is it something I missed... #-o

The whole situation is hypothetical, and is meant to force an opinion. And by that, I mean you don't get 'depends'. I do watch American comedy, but like I have already said, they are decades old.


..... there might be something wrong with your time zone. As far as I know it, most comedies that are American that are popular range from 1999-2006.

I've been pretty chilled with all my posts. =]


Chillmeister.

Some how, an American commenting about the stereotype the world holds about Americans just doesn't quite work.


Actually it does, the said American could be proving them wrong about their stereotypes, and Americans have equal rights to comment on it.


long paragraph stez wrote on stereotyping


I'll just agree with this, for now, until I can be arsed butchering it with my verbal butcher knife.

The only shit show from the UK that leaps into my mind with clarity is 'The Bill', but that isn't comedy... Feel free to suggest names.


Stez wrote:That'd be your opinion, and it'd be wrong.


The only thing they have in common is the fact they are 'skit shows'.

And as you might have guessed, I've seen MadTV, and it doesn't impress me. It tends to telegraph it's jokes far too much, there is no subtle nature, and the actors could be better/less annoying.


Sublety isn't always good;
Actors aren't as annoying as Monty Python;
Telegraph its jokes? Where'd you get that from, The Big Book of Jokes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnNWoq2DE9c

What do yee think of that?


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Postby Snakey » Tue Sep 12, 06 6:44 pm

Dez wrote:I posted the little text/highlighted the American english spelling correct just to be satirical/comical, but you took it too far by saying it's stupid/incorrect or bastardized.


Meanig that this whole argument was caused by your poor attempt at humour, thus the point is proven.

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Postby clyzm » Tue Sep 12, 06 9:17 pm

Oh shit.

Both of Stevie's and mine's replies went down.

THAT SUCKS.

Btw, suck dinger, Snakey dillhole.

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Postby synthetic » Tue Sep 12, 06 11:12 pm

Haha, I had this feeling of powerless power, like from Hellraiser part where the guys wife kept dying and then the time went back and the guy always tried to try something different to save the girl. Point being, I felt like I had the power to stop what was to come in this flaming and yet I felt it's to come anyway - power and powerlessness.

Not to mention strong sense of Deja vu, that mainman already noted.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 13, 06 12:01 am

It's a friendly debate.

No flaming.
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Postby Mr. Tastix » Wed Sep 13, 06 10:54 am

My DX interface colour is red, simply because it's my fave colour. That, and black (and no, I'm not emo or goth).

Though, what the fuck is up with American spelling? You spell EVERYTHING how you say it and you say things pretty fucken retardly. I mean, it's ALUMINIUM not "aluminum" as how you 'Mercs would say it.

British English is the only true English. It was created WAY before the shitty excuse for American English, sorry if I offend but that's my two cents. And here's some advice - USE THE BLOODY METRIC SYSTEM!
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 13, 06 5:28 pm

English accent sucks because it can't pronounce shit for it's life. "A-loo-mee-nee-um" isn't the correct spelling, it sounds like a bunch of retards trying to spell aluminium. British english doesn't sound tough or anything, it's too wussy, and it has no guts, and it's for fairies.

"That's my two cents." Also, we already do, but the American system fucking owns.

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Postby C:Enter:£££ » Wed Sep 13, 06 5:30 pm

Emo! Just jokin' man :P Play it like Fonzy, cool 8)

lmao And we all know how non retarded the American accent is :roll:
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 13, 06 5:33 pm

Wearing Black = metalhead.
Wearing Camouflage = metalhead.
Wearing Army Apparel = metalhead.

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Wearing Black Makeup = goth.
Dying hair black = goth.
Always wearing black every day = goth.

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Wearing ladies' jeans = emo.
Having an overlap hairstyle = emo.
Wearing eyeshadow or any other makeup = emo.

Just wanted to clear things up.
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Postby Krieg » Wed Sep 13, 06 5:36 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Wearing Black = metalhead.
Wearing Camouflage = metalhead.
Wearing Army Apparel = metalhead.

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Wearing Black Makeup = goth.
Dying hair black = goth.
Always wearing black every day = goth.

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Wearing ladies' jeans = emo.
Having an overlap hairstyle = emo.
Wearing eyeshadow or any other makeup = emo.

Just wanted to clear things up.

aaahhhhh :o , than i must be a metalhead since the only black thing i wear are t-shirts with skullhead prints on it or with prints on it of a band.
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Postby Snakey » Wed Sep 13, 06 8:20 pm

[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Wearing Black = metalhead.
Wearing Camouflage = metalhead.
Wearing Army Apparel = metalhead.


My camo trousers are ftw.

English accent sucks because it can't pronounce shit for it's life. "A-loo-mee-nee-um" isn't the correct spelling, it sounds like a bunch of retards trying to spell aluminium. British english doesn't sound tough or anything, it's too wussy, and it has no guts, and it's for fairies.


Yeah you just keep telling yourself that.
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Postby clyzm » Wed Sep 13, 06 8:39 pm

Snakey wrote:
[A] Cataclyzm wrote:Wearing Black = metalhead.
Wearing Camouflage = metalhead.
Wearing Army Apparel = metalhead.


My camo trousers are ftw.

English accent sucks because it can't pronounce shit for it's life. "A-loo-mee-nee-um" isn't the correct spelling, it sounds like a bunch of retards trying to spell aluminium. British english doesn't sound tough or anything, it's too wussy, and it has no guts, and it's for fairies.


Yeah you just keep telling yourself that.


Likewise to you about anything in the UK beating anything in the US.

American accent owns.
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Postby Imperial » Wed Sep 13, 06 8:43 pm

Italians ftw
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Postby Amme » Wed Sep 13, 06 9:00 pm

No, Sweden > All
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Postby Imperial » Wed Sep 13, 06 9:02 pm

For the girls yes, I will agree, but italian food just owns.
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