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clyzm wrote:Fermi actually beat the 5870 in some benchmarks but whatever. Plus all the ATI fanboys will be like "but is gonna be more expensive!!!!!!111" while the 480 and 470 came out at prices lower than the 5870, on launch. lol
DxPlayer wrote:clyzm wrote:Fermi actually beat the 5870 in some benchmarks but whatever. Plus all the ATI fanboys will be like "but is gonna be more expensive!!!!!!111" while the 480 and 470 came out at prices lower than the 5870, on launch. lol
But it doesn't beat HD 5970. Fermi is a new release and it's the best Nvidia card for now.
ATi has this new Radeon and the newest Nvidia card doesn't get close to it in the benchmarks. It's 5870 vs Fermi and there's no Nvidia's equivalent for 5970.
And Fermi eats too much energy.
clyzm wrote:enjoy shoddy drivers lol.
clyzm wrote:I'm getting a lot of bluescreens at random times in Fallout 3 and Dragon Age. Anyone else have them, and if so, any problems similar to this? I had to rollback the drivers twice now.
DxPlayer wrote:clyzm wrote:enjoy shoddy drivers lol.clyzm wrote:I'm getting a lot of bluescreens at random times in Fallout 3 and Dragon Age. Anyone else have them, and if so, any problems similar to this? I had to rollback the drivers twice now.
This. o.O
Yes, but ATI have always been ahead on that front. IE, for people who just give up/aren't decadent nerds.Protocol wrote:Price/power ratio means 480 is not as good as it should be
If money is no object then you just buy 11 GTX 480s
clyzm wrote:Again, the GTX 4xx came out cheaper than the 5xxx series, and the cost-benefit is much much greater, but whatever, enjoy shoddy drivers lol.
DxPlayer wrote:Oh well, by now ATi has the lead
A Radeon 5970 is cheaper than a 480
it has much more power, like you said, it's a dual card, and consumes less energy
How comes buying a Geforce 480 is more cost-benefit?
And about the shoddy drivers, I remember a recent Nvidia's WHQL Driver blah blah blah.
So show me something, like a VGA that is better than 5970, that proves I'm wrong. I'm talking about GPUs.
clyzm wrote:
>has more power
>consumes less energy
It is cheaper and performs better than the 5870. I think I have mentioned this probably three times by now? I lost count.
Just google ATI catalyst driver problem or something to that effect. There are hundreds of unsolved driver issues. The difference is, nVidia actually fixes them (maybe you haven't tried upgrading your drivers or something lol).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133253
DxPlayer wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-HD-597A-CNB9-Radeon-HD-5970-Black-Edition-2GB-/230466640062?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item35a8e1d8be#ht_806wt_1165
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-Radeon-HD-5970- ... 711wt_1165
Oh man show me something that proves I'm wrong.
That's what you think. 5870 beats 480 in some games AND benchmarks, like Crysis.
Actually I tested Forcewares from 80 to 190, try Google for what I told ya too. And if you read the Forcewares release notes you will see lots of not fixed problems that comes from Forcewares like 160 and are still in 190.
Man, seriously, I'm talking about GPUs for gaming, not professional graphics cards, for that ATI has the FirePro series.
I'm sorry but if you are claiming ATI has shoddy drivers you are mistaken. And if there are issues they are fixed on a month to month basis; nothing earth shattering that affects real world game play.
I'm pretty sure he means "the ATI is more powerful, yet consumes less energy" which is bullshit in itself.clyzm wrote:Is English your first language? Do you realize you contradicted yourself with that last statement? "Uses less energy, but has more power" can you not realize that % of energy used is dependent on % of power consumed?
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I'm pretty sure he means "the ATI is more powerful, yet consumes less energy" which is bullshit in itself.
clyzm wrote:
Is English your first language? Do you realize you contradicted yourself with that last statement? "Uses less energy, but has more power" can you not realize that % of energy used is dependent on % of power consumed?
Did you just completely ignore my benchmark post (probably also all my other posts)? It's not something I think, it's something I know.
Strangely enough the rest of the nVidia owners seem to disagree with you on the shoddy drivers issue pertaining to that specific component. It seems to me all you did was use Windows to browse through the driver folders and find an arbitrary part that has nothing to do with the BSODs you are receiving.
You said the best "card" period. 5970 is two 5870s. If you want a single-card performance/ratio and not Crossfired dual GPUs, then look at the 480 which is currently in the lead for that market.
Man seriously, I would recommend you pay more attention to other people's posts in the future.
No, it's not my first language. When I wrote "power" I meant rendering power, and it's not directly related to the % of electricity consumed.
I did read ur posts. However, if Crysis "prefers" ATi's card why did I got an email from Nvidia with a Crysis's character recommending a 8800 Geforce Triple SLI to play the game?
It seems like you didn't really "googled" it. I spent a great time searching for a fix in the internet. I also contacted Microsoft's and Nvidia's technical support about the problem and consulted specialized forums too.
Isn't it cheaper then? You can buy "2" graphic cards for the price of 1! Idk if you know the concept of Crossfire but it's not what u have just wrote there.
Man seriously, I would recommend you pay more attention to other people's posts in the future.