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Postby ZepHroN » Tue Nov 16, 04 11:20 pm

Cool, you enter both tourneys btw. You cant just enter one. Its to keep the numbers up.
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Postby Seraphiel » Tue Nov 16, 04 11:26 pm

[En]ZepHroN wrote:Otherwise americans have the advantage in augged games :P ([i]mmortal is american no?)


And the americans dont have a disadvantage on the euro server end? One of the reasons why I liked this idea of a tournament because it was played on BOTH sides of the ocean in BOTH augs and nonaugs.

This would be the first absolutely representative tournament I have seen. I dont think people should be able to sign up "just for augs" and "just for nonaugs". It's both. It really is all in good fun, so dont sweat the augs. Hopefully it will get some of you hooked because it is soo fun.

Each team plays four maps, 2 in augs american and 2 in nonaugs European. The winner of the most maps advances to the next round. If there is a tie, they either play a single map in augs european or nonaugs American.

This is the way I see it playing out. We have Team A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H...
A v H wins 3 maps to 1, and go on to advance to the next round
A v C wins all 4 maps, and goes on to advance
A v D win 2 maps a peice, then they fight on a nonaug american server and A wins.

A wins the tourney.
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Postby Seraphiel » Tue Nov 16, 04 11:27 pm

At least, that is how I think it should be played out...
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Postby J-E-J » Wed Nov 17, 04 12:19 am

Ah, I see. I'm not a huge fan of 0 augs, much less 0 augs played on a Euro server. Oh well.
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Postby AlexDenton » Wed Nov 17, 04 12:58 am

yeh

if 0auggers a willing to play augs, even tho we will probably lose, then auggers should have the ability to play 0augs

also, 0augs is sorta a step down from augs, right? so it will be like a normal game without speed/cloak/ballistics etc

btw, in the setting of the matches

i feel that to make it fairer and give weaker teams a chance, the weaker selections should be given a game against each toehr in the lower rounds

therefore they wil not be all put out by strong 1337 teams, making it an all 1337 tournament

at least give us weaker opponents a chance to pass the 1st round

choose carefully tho, we dont want two main contenders batteling it out in the 1st round

that qould be like

Brazil
Italy
Germany
Spain
France

all in a world cup group

see what i mean?

but neither do we want a less skillfulll team in there, giving them no chance
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Postby Seraphiel » Wed Nov 17, 04 3:44 am

On one hand, an Augger not playing Zero-Augs, even for a few games, is silly, because as AD said, No-Augs is sort of a step down.

On the other hand, while a No-Augger not playing Augs is more understandable, it is MORE lame imo because Augs are the original way DX is played. (I am not gonna debate that....both gametypes are fun). And I see most No-Auggers are willing to give it a chance (which makes the Tournament a success already in my eyes).



As far as selecting teams, it would be hard to determine who the best teams are without hurting anyone's feelings or starting some sort of flamewar.
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Postby Seraphiel » Wed Nov 17, 04 3:47 am

and didnt s korea win last time??
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Postby Trollied » Wed Nov 17, 04 8:59 am

: D
Seraph's got the right idea

If we could get this running good and maybe have it organised for every few months...swap the teams around a bit...then dx will be soo much more fun and people will be more active
This may also encourage non-aug players to start playing augs

It's very hard to start playing augs imo...unless you get a few pointers and help with setting up a few simple binds
If you want help i'm more than happy to help...my love for dx increased by 10 times when i started playing augs ( i still love non-aug though )
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Postby Trollied » Wed Nov 17, 04 9:03 am

*alexdenton.... :S
you don't want the good teams going out first do you?
you want the better matches to come later on and a build up to the best 2 teams playing in the final
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Postby James » Wed Nov 17, 04 11:25 am

Team Name : -=Team-n00bzorz=-
Team Captain : [A] James
Member 2 : [En]Kawada
Member 3 : [En]Xuir (We're gonna ask)
Member 4 : Pending
Location : UK

Clearly in it to be idiots and n00bs and to get owned for fun, no rules against that eh? ^_^

Most likely be plaing 0-Aug due to Joe and Brendan. ¬_¬
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Postby Jeoh » Wed Nov 17, 04 3:55 pm

Alex, I like the idea, and it will be used. Brackets will be made soon.
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Postby ZepHroN » Wed Nov 17, 04 5:34 pm

Yes, good ideas.

I was hoping that after this tourny, if its successful we could have lots more. Mix it up a bit, possibly regional teams : England, Scotland, Ireland, US, SWE, RUS etc. etc.

I know certain teams have a lot more people to choose from but...

I never got augs training :( i just copied someones user.ini and tried to figure it all out myself (still trying)...

I think, if we are having more of these tournys this one is like a trial. Either we find/make a script that adds teams at random to the ladder OR we all decide which teams should be selected against which other teams.

THen, after a couple of tournys we could creat seeding ranks etc.

And have a permanent board with each teams position. Providing the team stays the same constantly...
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Postby Bob » Wed Nov 17, 04 5:37 pm

[En]ZepHroN wrote:Yes, good ideas.

I was hoping that after this tourny, if its successful we could have lots more. Mix it up a bit, possibly regional teams : England, Scotland, Ireland, US, SWE, RUS etc. etc.


Like that idea Ada... It would be, imo a Scotland, America, Canada and england quarter final
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Postby Splitter » Wed Nov 17, 04 5:57 pm

For the final match between the aug and zero aug winners could we do it on score rather than a single map win? Play one map euro, one map american in whatever gametype and the team with the most points at the end is crowned the winners?...just an idea :P
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Postby omgz0rz » Wed Nov 17, 04 6:01 pm

lmao, that team :(
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Postby AlexDenton » Wed Nov 17, 04 6:28 pm

Seraphiel wrote:and didnt s korea win last time??


nah, it was hosted by korea and japan

Brazil won it, they beat germany in the final
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Postby eN# Kawada » Wed Nov 17, 04 8:45 pm

TEAM NOOBZORZ YO!!!
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Postby Grifter » Wed Nov 17, 04 8:51 pm

But need a team , so if there is some people out there that need a member let me know
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Postby Seraphiel » Wed Nov 17, 04 10:16 pm

I toook this from the thread in DCSB forums. This was in a response that we hold to seperate tourneys;

Seraphiel:
the two reasons I really liked it is because it would force nonauggers to play augs, and some of them, god willin, would like it and start playing it. The more people who play both gametypes, the better.

I also liked it because the tournament would be entirely universal. Both game types, both continents. The way I see it shaping up, I see one continent, and a tournament for each gametype.

If I want to find out who the best team of auggers is, I will go ahead and watch the [3] v [I] match. If I want to find out the best team non-auggers, I am gonna go ahead and look around me in my clan.
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Postby Seraphiel » Wed Nov 17, 04 10:58 pm

to clarify "the way I see" meaning the way I see things happening NOW, not the way I WANT to see things happening. What I would like to see is 8-16 teams. Each with 4 people. Each team plays another in 4 games, 2 aug, 2 non aug. the winner advances.
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Postby ][DF][Boogieman][DF][ » Thu Nov 18, 04 4:10 am

This is ][DF][BoogieMAN][DF][, DF may get a team ready for this so can we get a spot?
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Postby ZepHroN » Thu Nov 18, 04 8:38 am

Yes you can.

Seraph : That is a good idea *takes on board*</seraph>

Dont get worried 0auggers, we will place you against teams that are known not to aug adn therefore you dont have to try and beat Monkee's team to advance.

Unfortunately i think that puts either chaos.theory or pending against : o :shock: :?

Gonna change the rules tonight.

Rules updated, please read.
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Postby Seraphiel » Thu Nov 18, 04 6:34 pm

Ty for the acknowledgement ^_^

"Teams that dont often play augs will be placed against other teams that dont play augs. Teams that do, will be placed against teams that do. "

unfortunately, this means the teams who have some auggers in them will have eliminated each other early, leaving the winner of those matches to play on of the less augging teams.

However, I understand this point of view, and I think there is a solution.

Olympic wrestling also has a 3rd place match. Would it be fair to have the two teams who lost the match before the Final (so the semifinal) play a match against each other, and the winner of that match is declared 3rd place? That way some teams will have a bit more of a chance.

So ABCD are the last four teams. A defeats C and B defeats D. A and C go on to play for the championship. C and D play for 3rd place.
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Postby Bob » Thu Nov 18, 04 6:45 pm

You are full of some good ideas, Alex :lol:
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Postby AlexDenton » Thu Nov 18, 04 6:51 pm

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Postby ZepHroN » Thu Nov 18, 04 7:25 pm

Yup, i was thinking that too, a third place match...

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We'll get the teams sorted first, then have a big discussion and finalise rules.
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Postby Seraphiel » Thu Nov 18, 04 8:18 pm

[TT]AlexDenton wrote:NHA


refering to me I think...because IM ALEX!
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Postby Dae » Thu Nov 18, 04 8:30 pm

Seraphiel, please, register :wink: Won't take even 5 mins
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Postby J-e-J » Thu Nov 18, 04 10:12 pm

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Postby Seraphiel » Thu Nov 18, 04 11:33 pm

Jej and I like our souls where they are, ty :P
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